AAVANG (Lab tested source)

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This caught my eye as I felt it going to slip through the cracks. Regardless if the other 2 members are having issues, this is alarming.

IIRC, the op said no paypal, but is offering it through personal email conversation? It looks like (to me) the source needs to look into making this right! By stating no reships are redflags for me anyway. If I provide evidence to a source my pack was seized, he'd better reship.

I suspect this source doesn't brew his own gear. Why would he say send money to my supplier. This also leads me to believe his hands are tied in any transaction and has a protocol to follow by the supplier.
Maybe I'm off base, and I wouldn't be the first time....lol.

All of these are valid points but the emails were fabricated. He doesn't have you send to a supplier in China, I can assure you that the funds are sent to the USA.
2. He does reship. My ship had enanthate even though I asked for cypinate. I brought this to his attention and he has said he will make the correction and I am able to keep the wrong product. All I did was take a pic showing the mistake and correspondence. He apologized no questions asked.
3. But he did f up by offering PayPal to someone as an alternative payment. And I'm sure he regrets doing so.
I'm by no means endorsing this ugl just stating from my situation.
 
Why does everyone still uses google,gmail
And PayPal for buy illegal stuff
I also thought about it but that shit leave a huge paper trail
That superfly and teo sounds like they know each other not the same person but definitely know each other

Unless the email server is in a country that doesn't cooperate with the US then LE can get any email transactions with a subpoena. As far as payment cash is actually the only secure way with no trail. WU and Money gram keep records for a long time, credit cards and PayPal also leave evidence trail. Even bitcoin can be confiscated. There were a couple of sources on here that had their bitcoin accounts froze and received notice that their account was flagged for illegal activity. But I won't be sending cash through the mail anytime soon
 
Unless the email server is in a country that doesn't cooperate with the US then LE can get any email transactions with a subpoena. As far as payment cash is actually the only secure way with no trail. WU and Money gram keep records for a long time, credit cards and PayPal also leave evidence trail. Even bitcoin can be confiscated. There were a couple of sources on here that had their bitcoin accounts froze and received notice that their account was flagged for illegal activity. But I won't be sending cash through the mail anytime soon
If you do send CIM then you sure need to know who you are dealing with. Cash can be lost never be seen again with no product to show for it.
 
Oh nooo not my receiver in china lol!
@Aavang1 or @AAVANG . Which one of these are you. Who is the real slim shady?

Why have you never shown pics of your brewing lab?

Which in the meso community was a safe guard. For any new source to show pics of their lab to protect the community from bathtub brewers.

Your getting ready to have a bogo blowout sale.

Yet you have never shown any pics of your gear stock.. Just shown tops of a few vials.

These are real questions I believe the meso community would like to have answers for.

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@Aavang1 or @AAVANG . Which one of these are you. Who is the real slim shady?

Why have you never shown pics of your brewing lab?

Which in the meso community was a safe guard. For any new source to show pics of their lab to protect the community from bathtub brewers.

Your getting ready to have a bogo blowout sale.

Yet you have never shown any pics of your gear stock.. Just shown tops of a few vials.

These are real questions I believe the meso community would like to have answers for.

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It's OK now, members such as @rpbb, @mghoward74 and @CensoredBoardsSuck are here and can vet the source so you can be gone. Unless of course you are ready to answer some questions that have been asked of you many times, by myself and other members. How again did you wind up with a payment email from aavang that was 6 hours before tylerteo's payment email? How did you wind up with one at all since you are too much of a wolf to have ever used this source? Only us Meso sheep would do that.
 
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I have never used paypal cash cards, the email correspondence is fabricated. We did exchange emails but he has rewritten them.

Superfly has no business with me but somehow he obtained my payment information, i only sent payment information to those who had placed an order.

The paypal cards came up before my account was ever hacked. There is no doubt in my mind this entire thing is a setup to back the steroid forums allegations.
So which handle are you running now @AAVANG or @Aavang1. I can do this all day long everyday until I get a Response. Your bitchboy flounder will not detour me from getting answers from you.

1. Pics of your lab that you brew your gear in. Which is what every new source shows here. To make the meso community safe from bathtub brewers.

2. Pics of your stock. Seeing how your getting ready for a blowout bogo sale.
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Unless the email server is in a country that doesn't cooperate with the US then LE can get any email transactions with a subpoena. As far as payment cash is actually the only secure way with no trail. WU and Money gram keep records for a long time, credit cards and PayPal also leave evidence trail. Even bitcoin can be confiscated. There were a couple of sources on here that had their bitcoin accounts froze and received notice that their account was flagged for illegal activity. But I won't be sending cash through the mail anytime soon

No buddy google is a U.S base company no matter where u are they are being saved in there sever which means they have to comply with U.S bullshit laws
 
Why does everyone still uses google,gmail
And PayPal for buy illegal stuff
I also thought about it but that shit leave a huge paper trail
That superfly and teo sounds like they know each other not the same person but definitely know each other

That's what I was thinking. They don't have be the same people to scam together. They've been on at the same time, which doesn't make it impossible for them to be the same person. ( 2 different devices logged in under 2 handles is still possible). However, it does make it more unlikely that they're the same person.
 
That's what I was thinking. They don't have be the same people to scam together. They've been on at the same time, which doesn't make it impossible for them to be the same person. ( 2 different devices logged in under 2 handles is still possible). However, it does make it more unlikely that they're the same person.
this whole superfly and the other guy situation is just a distraction from the fact that this is just another bathtub brewer who shouldn't be trusted
 
this whole superfly and the other guy situation is just a distraction from the fact that this is just another bathtub brewer who shouldn't be trusted

I have to say i believe your opinion is very bias since you are friends with big lou.

To my knowledge i was the first domestic source to do HPLC testing followed by 24k who has already been sourcing for over a year, i could be wrong, but that would still make me the second if 24k came out first. Id say on that merit alone im not just another bathtub brewer, you even applauded that testing in the first page of this thread. Ive also posted labmax video's and had great user feedback and results, quite a few members have pinned my gear already reporting next to no PIP.

All of that combined with the fact i just had every incentive to abandon ship but all orders were sent out regardless, i think its a bit unfair to say im just another bathtub brewer.

All evidence thus far points to that not being the case.
 
And as far as big lou goes i will deal in facts,

1. He made baseless accusations about me, there has been no evidence to support these claims thus far even after being asked to provide some.

2. He has openly tracked down and posted personal and familial information of one our our meso members here for simply asking a single question about #1

3. Shortly after the accusations, my account was hacked and steroid forum invites were sent to my customers. Big lou is a mod at Steroid forums.

Im sorry but your friend Big Lou is someone no one should trust just on #2 alone. He loses credibility on #1 and most people can use common sense on the circumstantial evidence provided in #3.

The likelihood of an unrelated hacker sending invites to steroid forums is next to nothing.
I believe he intended to create a situation in where members who ordered from me would not receive their packages in order to back his claims. That makes him no better than a scammer.
 
And as far as big lou goes i will deal in facts,

1. He made baseless accusations about me, there has been no evidence to support these claims thus far even after being asked to provide some.

2. He has openly tracked down and posted personal and familial information of one our our meso members here for simply asking a single question about #1

3. Shortly after the accusations, my account was hacked and steroid forum invites were sent to my customers. Big lou is a mod at Steroid forums.

Im sorry but your friend Big Lou is someone no one should trust just on #2 alone. He loses credibility on #1 and most people can use common sense on the circumstantial evidence provided in #3.

The likelihood of an unrelated hacker sending invites to steroid forums is next to nothing.
I believe he intended to create a situation in where members who ordered from me would not receive their packages in order to back his claims. That makes him no better than a scammer.
You will be known as a bathtub brewer until you show that your not.

1. Pics of your lab set up.

2. Pics of the stock you are trying to sell here.
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Lol do you even know what pictures youre putting up anymore?

Anyway...

1. I already took pictures

2. Im not going to post my operation up, that will never happen.

10+ different customers have already received orders, everyone who has pinned my gear reports minimal or no PIP, no floaters etc...

I guess if i have a bathtub its spotless.

This will be my last post addressing you.
 
Lol do you even know what pictures youre putting up anymore?

Anyway...

1. I already took pictures

2. Im not going to post my operation up, that will never happen.

10+ different customers have already received orders, everyone who has pinned my gear reports minimal or no PIP, no floaters etc...

I guess if i have a bathtub its spotless.

This will be my last post addressing you.
Correction you took 1 picture. Pictures is plural , which is more then 1.

The rest of your pics is you testing your gear in your kitchen. Which I am guessing is close to your spotless tub.

Below you see the 1 pic you took of your stock. Which I have more stashed away in my closet.

No pip doesn't mean shit. Could be straight oil. I have pinned some great gear and it had a bite.

Let's deal in facts shall we.

1. Sf board which is a paid source board rejected you. Calling you a scammer.

2. You have 1 pic of a few bottles of something, vials are not labeled.

3. Members have came out left and right warning members about you.

4. You admit you have been hacked. Which leads to a security risk for meso members.

5. You did in fact did offer paypal cards as payment before you switched to accepting other payment types.

6. Your ta is 10 or more days from what your customers have posted.

7. No pics of lab or your stock.

8. You changed your meso handle and your email address.

Down below is your 1 pic you posted on your other thread.
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@Superfly My question is why do you come here acting as a WKM or Vet who suddenly gives a shit about fellow Meso members and our well being? Once again, I've never ordered from this source for obvious reasons, but why are you really here Superfly?

Do you really give a shit about Meso or do you just really hate AAvang? Hmmmm. I think it obvious!!!
 
@Superfly My question is why do you come here acting as a WKM or Vet who suddenly gives a shit about fellow Meso members and our well being? Once again, I've never ordered from this source for obvious reasons, but why are you really here Superfly?

Do you really give a shit about Meso or do you just really hate AAvang? Hmmmm. I think it obvious!!!
Oh its deff obvious an we all can clearly see it;), even a retard like me:p...isnt that right @Superfly aka Geicoo_O Where 15 mins could save you 15% or less on car insurance:rolleyes::D
 
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@Superfly My question is why do you come here acting as a WKM or Vet who suddenly gives a shit about fellow Meso members and our well being? Once again, I've never ordered from this source for obvious reasons, but why are you really here Superfly?

Do you really give a shit about Meso or do you just really hate AAvang? Hmmmm. I think it obvious!!!
I think he's here to start shit. Best thing is to see how the others who received packs from Vang fare, so if they say the same sort of thing there could indeed be big red flags.
 
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