about 2+ months off gear but hormones still low

[Wood4days]

So I got my Blood work done yesterday and all my hormones are still low. I did PCT and gave myself about 5 to 6 weeks before doing bloods again but hormones are still very low. LH, Testosterone, E2, and FSH

I thought after PCT your hormones are suppose to bounce back to the normal natty range.

Is anyone experiencing this after cycle?

You think my clomid and nolvadex is fake?

Will my natural hormones bounce back or am I fucked for life and need trt?

Thanks

 

[Xragexx]

was your clomid and nolva pharma or UGL?

How long have you been cycling?
Your numbers are very low, I’m not advanced enough to say you’re doomed for life of trt.

@Roger rabbit may have more insight.

 

[Iron Frenchie]

It’s looks like you haven’t really recovered. I would make sure your PCT drugs are legit.

 

[Brandaddy]

If you didn't use legit pharma serms. Personally i would get them and then run another pct.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

What was the cycle before this (or cycles)? Did you use HCG during cycle? During PCT?

 

[Maktub]

How many cycles have you done ? Do you blast and cruise ? What was the last substances that you use and for how long ? How many weeks after last shot you start pct ? Nolva or clomid ? MG? Age ?
Pre cycle labs ?? I dindt think so.


Shit a lot info to fill in

 

[Roger rabbit]

and how many boards are you going to post the exact same question on? You posted one at bop as well.

 

[Wood4days]

was your clomid and nolva pharma or UGL?

How long have you been cycling?
Your numbers are very low, I’m not advanced enough to say you’re doomed for life of trt.

@Roger rabbit may have more insight.

It was UGL but someone told me to always buy pharma grade PCT. so I’m going to do that next cycle.

This is my 4th cycle

All cycles were Test E, Primo, and Var and of course HCG 500iu/week

 

[Wood4days]

and how many boards are you going to post the exact same question on? You posted one at bop as well.

Just two because I wanted more insight on this.

 

[Roger rabbit]

Don’t remember your last cycle or the one before and how much time you took off between the two.

But you might want to look into dr scaly super pct protocol and get everything to recover before your next cycle. Another pct could be in order.

 

[Wood4days]

How many cycles have you done ? Do you blast and cruise ? What was the last substances that you use and for how long ? How many weeks after last shot you start pct ? Nolva or clomid ? MG? Age ?
Pre cycle labs ?? I dindt think so.


Shit a lot info to fill in

4 cycles

I don’t cruise. Just 500/week of Test E Monday and Thursday with primo 800/week

Every cycle is test E and primo and var. only difference is each cycle I increase the primo.

So this cycle primo 800/week was the most I have done.

This previous cycle I did 16 weeks

All other cycles were 12 weeks

I started PCT 21 days after last pin

This previous cycle PCT looks like this;
Week 1 clomid 100mg
Nolvadex 40mg

Week 2 clomid 50
Nolvadex 40

Week 3 clomid 25mg
Nolvadex 20

Week 4 clomid 12.5mg
Nolvadex 10mg

So someone told me to run clomid longer and higher does. This could be the reason why my post cycle bloods are low.

Age: 35

I always do pre cycle Labs

 

[Wood4days]

Don’t remember your last cycle or the one before and how much time you took off between the two.

But you might want to look into dr scaly super pct protocol and get everything to recover before your next cycle. Another pct could be in order.

I was going to start another test E only cycle next week but are you saying I need to do PCT again first before starting another cycle?

 

[Wood4days]

The funny thing is I feel normal. I haven’t lost a lot of strength and I still can get a hard on.

I don’t feel weak or depressed.

I’m normal as hell [emoji1745]‍[emoji3603]

 

[Roger rabbit]

The funny thing is I feel normal. I haven’t lost a lot of strength and I still can get a hard on.

I don’t feel weak or depressed.

I’m normal as hell [emoji1745]‍[emoji3603]

How long are you waiting between cycles to cycle again?

 

[Wood4days]

How long are you waiting between cycles to cycle again?

3 months

 

[Dr JIM]

How many cycles have you done ? Do you blast and cruise ? What was the last substances that you use and for how long ? How many weeks after last shot you start pct ? Nolva or clomid ? MG? Age ?
Pre cycle labs ?? I dindt think so.


Shit a lot info to fill in

Yea but every one of your questions are important factors that influence HTPA recovery.

Here’s another, of course I/we already know the answer.

Did you obtain baseline PRE-AAS labs, or were these labs the FIRST after years of cycling.

If the latter was the case, at least SIX MONTHS is often required, esp of Nandrolone was a regular component of your cycles.

Finally although PCT MAY help it does NOT mediate or expedite spontaneous recovery and as a result it’s best used
as a bridge bt cycles to help maintain gains


Jim

 

[Wood4days]

Damn I just read this

Comprehensive Guide to PCT

I’m going to follow this PCT protocol for next cycle

I was doing HCG 500iu week but now it’s saying to do HCG 2000iu E3D 14 days before PCT

There’s so many different ways to doing PCT it’s confusing

For some reason I remember someone said Test E have 5 half lives and PCT should start 21 days after last pin but now I’m reading this PCT protocol and it’s says 35 days after last pin to start PCT

 

[Roger rabbit]

Yea but every one of your questions are important factors that influence HTPA recovery.

Here’s another, of course I/we already know the answer.

Did you obtain baseline PRE-AAS labs, or were these labs the FIRST after years of cycling.

If the latter was the case, at least SIX MONTHS is often required, esp of Nandrolone was a regular component of your cycles.

Finally although PCT MAY help it does NOT mediate or expedite spontaneous recovery and as a result it’s best used
as a bridge bt cycles to help maintain gains


Jim

Metabolites are a bitch.[emoji35]

 

[Roger rabbit]

Damn I just read this

Comprehensive Guide to PCT

I’m going to follow this PCT protocol for next cycle

I was doing HCG 500iu week but now it’s saying to do HCG 2000iu E3D 14 days before PCT

There’s so many different ways to doing PCT it’s confusing

So you are running gear for 4 months and only taking 3 months off?

 

[Wood4days]

So you are running gear for 4 months and only taking 3 months off?

Usually 3 months on 3 months off but this cycle yes 4 on 3 off. Is that not enough?

Bloods came back and everything looks good besides my Test, LH, FSH, and E2