Acnee-from estrogen or Dht?

[BrockSamson42]

Dawn dish soap too when showering, shower 2x a day with it. Does wonders.

Also get a dam loofa.

The Loofa with the Stick/Rod attached. And sanitize the loofa with rubbing alcohol. My anecdotal experience is I stopped breaking out after this.

My guess was androgens though. There's a reason why it's so easy to spot tren users in the gym because their back looks like it needs 3 years of chemical peeling.

 

[Denicnut2427]

what is your point? tren is not estrogen to the body... how is a crossmatch in a test relevant?
what about EQ? anavar? neither are estrogenic, on the contrary... and yet people get acne myself included

Then it affects your sebaceous gland too much…this guy said test and dianabol in his post it ain’t no fucking dht

 

[TheRingloVale]

The Loofa with the Stick/Rod attached. And sanitize the loofa with rubbing alcohol. My anecdotal experience is I stopped breaking out after this.

My guess was androgens though. There's a reason why it's so easy to spot tren users in the gym because their back looks like it needs 3 years of chemical peeling.

I prefer one of the long abrasive scrubby exfoliating towel things. I use it to harshly scrub my face, neck, chest, shoulders and back. It's long enough to flip around and really get a good back scrub. The combo of the ANTIBACTERIAL dish soap on the exfoliating towel cuts right through that extreme grease and dead skin layer. It's amazing how much visible grime it scrubs away every day. That androgen grease really picks up a lot of dirt and dead skin.

Since I've started doing this daily, I have almost zero acne or ingrown body hairs, no matter what cycle I run.

 

[razter]

I prefer one of the long abrasive scrubby exfoliating towel things. I use it to harshly scrub my face, neck, chest, shoulders and back. It's long enough to flip around and really get a good back scrub. The combo of the ANTIBACTERIAL dish soap on the exfoliating towel cuts right through that extreme grease and dead skin layer. It's amazing how much visible grime it scrubs away every day. That androgen grease really picks up a lot of dirt and dead skin.

Since I've started doing this daily, I have almost zero acne or ingrown body hairs, no matter what cycle I run.

I’ve never seen that before. Just hopped on Amazon and bought it. Thanks!

 

[TheRingloVale]

I’ve never seen that before. Just hopped on Amazon and bought it. Thanks!

They also have them at Walmart. They're very cheap. It makes a HUGE difference in the way my skin feels after washing. Before, there'd still be a grease residue after washing, particularly on my forehead, sides of my nose, and upper chest. This just cuts right through that.

 

[razter]

They also have them at Walmart. They're very cheap. It makes a HUGE difference in the way my skin feels after washing. Before, there'd still be a grease residue after washing, particularly on my forehead, sides of my nose, and upper chest. This just cuts right through that.

I have one like that, but it's only the size of a washcloth. Prime will get here faster than I will drag myself to Walmart. lol It was only $10 for three of them.

 

[jJjburton]

A loofa, they are the same but for body,
That does look good for back

 

[TheRingloVale]

A loofa, they are the same but for body,
That does look good for back

This thing is significantly more abrasive than a loofah.

Yeah, it's perfect for back, particularly right between the shoulder blades and on the fat part of the lats

 

[razter]

A loofa, they are the same but for body,
That does look good for back

I've used loofas in the past. I like something like this much better.

 

[Daniel_Drago]

Don't forget to exfoliate everything...the back is important but the front makes all the money

 

[Wineglass93]

Then it affects your sebaceous gland too much…this guy said test and dianabol in his post it ain’t no fucking dht

That’s not exaustive. Orals drop Shbg (by a lot, after one month and a half of 3 weeks of 10mg/day anavar i have 8,8!!!). From that you get more free test, sure, but also a very more pronounced conversion in E2 and DHT.
As i said, even now with my trt dose of 125 mg/week i’m on 8,8 shbg, with 6,45 TotalT, 47 FreeT, 60 e2 and DHT to the roof. And i’m struggling eith mild acne. Pre anavar cycle (always on 125mg/week) i was on 7,45 TotalT, 58 FreeT, 32 e2, DHT in range and 31,2 SHBG. And totally acne free.
The matter is much more complicated than “it’s not dht”.

 

[Ghoul]

You're not going to get a handle on this by controlling hormones, certainly not while using gear.

Cleaning and topical antibacterials will help keep it in check, but one slip up and it's back with a vengeance.

Sun exposure reduces the appearance of acne temporarily by causing excess drying, but actually damages the skin in a way that makes it worse in the long term,

Antibiotics like 100mg/day Doxycycline are far more effective than any of the above, but that's a long term commitment, will wreck havoc with your digestion by slowly destroying healthy gut bacteria, and the moment you stop, there will be a nasty rebound.

You are either susceptible to this problem or not, and use of gear is the gasoline on the fire.

IMO, the best solution is isotretinoin (accutane) which slowly, permanently shrinks the oil glands that are at the root of the problem.

The old protocols required high daily doses with the potential of harsh side effects, to quickly get to a certain amount of total exposure based on body weight, like 10,000 mg for a 200lb person, to achieve a 90% chance of permanent cure.

For non-severe cases of acne, New Zealand figured out that a very low dose, 10mg a day (vs 90mg/day for a 200lb person) taken until acne is cleared + 2 to 4 months resolved acne permanently in 60-70% of cases, with nearly no side effects, and no need for regular blood tests, which is how it's prescribed there today. If acne does return, you can do another "cycle" which raises the odds of a permanent cure significantly.

Do not use a tetracycline antibiotic (like Doxy) while on accutane, it can in rare cases cause brain swelling.

It *must* be taken with a high fat meal, without that 80% may go unabsorbed. High fat is ideally 50% calories from fat.

Finally, UGL accutane is in dry tabs. all pharma accutane suspends it in oil in a gelcap, because it degrades quickly in dry form. The pharma generics like Accufine can be found for less than $5 for a months 10mg supply and is the smarter way to go.

After 6 weeks at 10mg my bacne is 90% clear, my back and scalp doesn't get greasy a couple of hours after a shower, and the only side I've had was very slight dry lips in the first couple of weeks.

Good luck.

PS: The extra 2 to 4 months is variable because accutane also speeds up turnover of skin. The extra time allows a chance for this process to reduce any acne scars left on the skin.

 

[Deebo825]

Try benzoyl peroxide body wash. I get acne on my chest and back whenever I run over 400mg of test and it’s not from estrogen with me because I have that dialed in with arimidex. I use a brand called panoxy and a retinal gel called differin