Admitted into the hospital :(

[redbull3906]

what's up guys,

I got home Tuesday night and felt really bad. Dizzy when I walked 10 steps to go pee and would almost pass out. Slight nauseous feeling but I was seeing stars just walking around for a minute or two and would collapse in my bed covered in sweat.

About 5 days earlier I had black tarry stool that took for ever to start the bowel movement. I'm normally a regular guy with daily bowel movements. Felt fine other than that but was irregular like every other day and mostly dark stool. This past tues night after work I got home and could barely walk without passing out. Would go to take a pee and almost pass out then fall in bed covered in sweat and heart pounding.

Took a few days off work feeling a little better the next day with drinking Gatorade and then ate something after a 20 hr fast. It almost felt like the stomach flu when up moving around but never vomited or had diarrhea just lethargic as hell and a bit nauseous when up moving around.
Laying down felt fine.

Went to the ER Friday evening and hemoglobin was 7.8 (red blood cell count) and on Saturday morning it's 7.4 m/nL. Normal is 13.8-17.2. At 7 they do a blood transfusion. They scoped the upper GI tract and saw some erosion of the esophagus (I think from oral solution made with 190) but not enough to warrant the amount of blood lost which is 3 units or more. Being Saturday I am lying here waiting on them to figure out what to do next since the small intestines is limited on what can be seen interns bleeding or lesions.

I've been running 10mg aromasin ed, just stopped a 3 week run of mesterolone 80 ed and that's it for Orals. They are all based on 190 proof and wondering if anyone has has any issuse with orals that cause internal bleeding like this. The rest of my cycle is as follows:

Test e/ eq 400 per ml at 1.5 ml every 4th day
Tren e 200 at 1ml every fourth day. That's it.

Wondering if anyone has any experience with a situation mm know
All comments are welcome. You

 

[JackSmooth]

Never good to see someone hospitalized, hope they can find exactly what the cause of the issue is soon.
Wish you luck brother, hope you get well soon.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

Oh shit, that's awful to read. Hang in there brother, hopefully they get you fixed up and back on your feet soon!

Sorry, can't do much more than wish you my best. Never messed with any orals that weren't tabs.

 

[Ripped]

I'm no help. but I do hope you get well soon bro.
I have no idea on it I mean people drink 190 proof all the time.
Could have been contaminated raws but that's just speculation really could have been many different things .

 

[NFRCR]

I hope doctors figure out your case and it will be solved.

Although since you posted this in homebrew section, you brew your own gear?

 

[Burrr]

I think there is almost zero chance that the GI problems are related to dropperfuls of grain alcohol. It's just a minut amount. Wish you a speedy recovery bro

 

[Oregongearhead]

Want to hint at who's raws your using ? Goodluck . ~Ogh

 

[Rockclimber]

I agree, the odds of this being from Everclear are small. You'd have to be drinking a quart of the stuff a day to really see issues.
How long have you been on the tren? I'm under the impression EQ and Tren raised RBC thus helping hemoglobin numbers.

 

[redbull3906]

I agree, the odds of this being from Everclear are small. You'd have to be drinking a quart of the stuff a day to really see issues.
How long have you been on the tren? I'm under the was impression EQ and Tren raised RBC thus helping hemoglobin numbers.

My hemoglobin was at 19.4 in march. Normal range is 13.5-17.5 g/dL. Now it is 7.2. The bleeding is coming from the upper GI and orals based in 190 would make sence. Eq, tren, test and all androgens raise the rbc count. I understand it being high, just need to figure out why it's so low. Was hoping someone had the magic answer. Lol. Thank everyone for the well wishes. Maybe when this is over I can shere some harm reduction facts. Possibly this is unrelated to juice. Sitting here in the hospital and getting bloods drawn to see if hemo is going up or down and then they will react accordingly. My primary will be here in the morning.

 

[Burrr]

yep, something in the gi track is bleeding a lot.

I've got some gi issues ( celiac) and have never had bloody poop.

is that an ulcer thing? or maybe UC or chrons?

 

[redbull3906]

yep, something in the gi track is bleeding a lot.

I've got some gi issues ( celiac) and have never had bloody poop.

is that an ulcer thing? or maybe UC or chrons?

Burrr,
They haven't mentioned crohns or uc at all. I hope neither. They have scoped the esophagus so far and saw what they called erosive esophagitus but they weren't sure if that warranted the amount of blood I've lost. More bright minds will be in tomorrow to think investigate this issue. I will keep this thread posted as to what they find. I did inform them I'm on 250mg of test e a week and aromasin in a 190 proof oral solution. I suspect it's the orals that may not be designed to be exposed to the upper gi in liquid form wether it's the 190 causing the irritation or the powders.

Ive been on aromasin either every day or eod depending on if I look dry or not and intermittent cialis/ viagra, and intermittent two week on and off with winni, proviron and the latest was mestanolone (STS646). The most recent was 80mg of proviron a day for three weeks and felt great, looked ripped and got dry gains from. Then I switched to mestanolone 60mg a day and that's when I had the black stool after running it for three days. Dropped it and haven't been regular since. About a week later I came home from work and it felt like I had the flu or food poisoning but no vomiting or diareah just almost passing out every time I got up to pee. Covered in sweat and heart pounding when I would lay back in bed. The loss of blood is the reason of coarse now that I know. There's a possibility the proviron and mestanolone were mislabeled when shipped to me. Every dr has said most people would've been collapsed with hemoglobin as low as mine but because I was in such good shape I've probably been dealing with it being low for some time now.

I've been running 400mg tren e, 600mg test e and eq 600mg for about a year. No blast or cruise there. I dropped tren for deca for about 3 months at one point but didn't like the way I looked on deca. I will mention crohns and uc tomorrow to the dr's. Anyone with similar issues please advise me what you know. I will keep this thread up to date. My raws are supposedly coming from the largest pharm plant producing hormones in china. I have good reason to believe that is true.

 

[Burrr]

Bro, I hope its something simple.4

and it looks like its time for you to go down to as light cruise for a while.
staying on that much gear long term is really bad for you... but I guess you know that.

I often have problems with orals fucking up my gut, but never bleeding.

Hope you get some good news tomorrow

 

[8654]

Wish you the best bro and hope you get well and recovered soon. Prayers! Stay Strong!

 

[Supermansson11]

Get well,stay strong keep us posted.

 

[redbull3906]

Thank you all for the well wishes. I figured the gear I was on was good to run for a year or two straight. I was planning on dropping the tren at some point but none of this was giving me any sides at all and able to maintain a lean healthy look while keeping what I consider natural looking muscle. I'm 47 and for years everyone around me has just looked fat or skinny fat and old if they where my age. I may have finally come to a cross roads here and need to join the crowd in that regard.


They drew blood today and we'll see where my hemoglobin is. I'm not sure it builds up fast. I've been on a proton pump inhibitor which reduces gas production in the stomach. I have a feeling the bleeding has stopped too but I'll know more later today. They are also waiting on a total testosterone to come back. My last shot was 10 days ago so they might not be too shocked. I told them I was on 250mg per week and they said it was too high. Lol. I'll keep this thread informed as I find things out.

 

[Juced]

im thinking ulcer, intestinal deeper ulcer possibly.. wish you luck, let us know what they say. they should do a scope going from the other end if they havent already, usually poops would be red not black if near the "exit" but if its up far enough it could still come out blackish.

 

[Oregongearhead]

im thinking ulcer, intestinal deeper ulcer possibly.. wish you luck, let us know what they say. they should do a scope going from the other end if they havent already, usually poops would be red not black if near the "exit" but if its up far enough it could still come out blackish.

Yep , sounds like a ruptured ulcer . My Dad had this , extreme pain and had the black stools too...

 

[Burrr]

Just keeping it real here,

Your 47.
That is wsy too old to be blasting for a year!!

You need to be at 100mg a week for a long while now, get your body back on track.
Coming off cycle doesnt mean you get fat.

 

[Oregongearhead]

Just keeping it real here,

Your 47.
That is wsy too old to be blasting for a year!!

You need to be at 100mg a week for a long while now, get your body back on track.
Coming off cycle doesnt mean you get fat.

Thats what I was thinking , way too long to stay-on no matter the age . I try to end my cycles before the 3 month mark . And equal time off....

 

[grey]

God damn.

Wish I had something helpful to add, but just hope you feel better soon.