Hello guys
I've introduced myself here a bit
https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/hello.134368876/
So given this info what I'm thinking of doing is following:
I'd like to run a deca-based cycle as I hope to get some relief for my knees and other joints as I feel (basically I've done MRT and I'm more or less fine, the doctor advised I should try fermathron as I need some joint oil (synovial fluid), but it costs like hell and I hear deca can help with this). So that's the first point. As far as I understoon running a deca-solo cycle would be stupid and it should better go along with testosterone, thus I'm thinking of two options. Either Test Prop or Sustanon (I have both). Of course I see Test P is normally not an option, but here I'd like to state that I'd like to have first cycle as short as possible and the dosage to be as low as possible (of course minimum effective dosage and minimum effective length). Thus I think of running 6-8 week cycle of 200mg deca/weel and either 50mg prop every second day or 250sust/week.
Aim: first of all try what steroids are (with minimum risk for side effects), improve joint situation, gain some strength (ideally to get from 1060sum to ~1160) and as a "side effect" for the strength training to gain some 10-20pounds of weight in these weeks. Boost up my appetite as I find it hard to eat a lot and when I do I shit as much as I eat and always feel uncomfortable.
Orals are not an option for me at the moment as I don't want it to hit on liver (it's fine, but could be better)).
Questions: can I do deca and test prop for the first cycle and would I experience anything in the aim section (I hope yes)? If Sust is a better option (and I believe it is), will 250 be enough or should I go 500? When I'm thinking of that I believe it's too much for the first time, both 250 and 500 (correct me if I'm wrong) and I could get undesireable side effects.
Moreover I've got 200IU of Kigtropin HGH that is expired (03/2013-03/2015), but after some research on the net I found that the worst can happen is that the actual substance can decrease, so I'd like to use that one ASAP too (not much, I know). I expect it to work along with deca on my joints too. So planning to add that one on the 3rd week after I start cycle (to run it a bit after my last deca injection on the one hand, and on the other to be sure there are no side-effects from AAS). Plan 5IU a day till its over.
Thinking I should take Cabergoline 0.25mg every fourth day and Arimidex 0.5 every second day starting second cycle week for both. BUT as I'm going to use low doses (which I hope I will) wouldn't it be better to go and run blood test and use those only if my estrogen and prolactin are high? I've already run test for hormones to have reference range.
As for PCT: Clomid in 3 weeks after last AAS injection for 3 weeks 50mg a day
So to cut the long story short: want a deca-based (200/week) first cycle with either prop (50 each second day) or sust (250/week), not expecting to skyrocket or anything, just to try AAS first with minimum side-effects. Low doses (confirmed to be effective) and short cycle. Is it OK to include HGH (5IU day on 2nd or 3rd week after I start cycle)?
Advice on diet or link would be appreciated as well
Thanks for reading, sorry for a long post. I believe in this friendly community you'll give me good advice!
)
I've introduced myself here a bit
https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/hello.134368876/
So given this info what I'm thinking of doing is following:
I'd like to run a deca-based cycle as I hope to get some relief for my knees and other joints as I feel (basically I've done MRT and I'm more or less fine, the doctor advised I should try fermathron as I need some joint oil (synovial fluid), but it costs like hell and I hear deca can help with this). So that's the first point. As far as I understoon running a deca-solo cycle would be stupid and it should better go along with testosterone, thus I'm thinking of two options. Either Test Prop or Sustanon (I have both). Of course I see Test P is normally not an option, but here I'd like to state that I'd like to have first cycle as short as possible and the dosage to be as low as possible (of course minimum effective dosage and minimum effective length). Thus I think of running 6-8 week cycle of 200mg deca/weel and either 50mg prop every second day or 250sust/week.
Aim: first of all try what steroids are (with minimum risk for side effects), improve joint situation, gain some strength (ideally to get from 1060sum to ~1160) and as a "side effect" for the strength training to gain some 10-20pounds of weight in these weeks. Boost up my appetite as I find it hard to eat a lot and when I do I shit as much as I eat and always feel uncomfortable.
Orals are not an option for me at the moment as I don't want it to hit on liver (it's fine, but could be better)).
Questions: can I do deca and test prop for the first cycle and would I experience anything in the aim section (I hope yes)? If Sust is a better option (and I believe it is), will 250 be enough or should I go 500? When I'm thinking of that I believe it's too much for the first time, both 250 and 500 (correct me if I'm wrong) and I could get undesireable side effects.
Moreover I've got 200IU of Kigtropin HGH that is expired (03/2013-03/2015), but after some research on the net I found that the worst can happen is that the actual substance can decrease, so I'd like to use that one ASAP too (not much, I know). I expect it to work along with deca on my joints too. So planning to add that one on the 3rd week after I start cycle (to run it a bit after my last deca injection on the one hand, and on the other to be sure there are no side-effects from AAS). Plan 5IU a day till its over.
Thinking I should take Cabergoline 0.25mg every fourth day and Arimidex 0.5 every second day starting second cycle week for both. BUT as I'm going to use low doses (which I hope I will) wouldn't it be better to go and run blood test and use those only if my estrogen and prolactin are high? I've already run test for hormones to have reference range.
As for PCT: Clomid in 3 weeks after last AAS injection for 3 weeks 50mg a day
So to cut the long story short: want a deca-based (200/week) first cycle with either prop (50 each second day) or sust (250/week), not expecting to skyrocket or anything, just to try AAS first with minimum side-effects. Low doses (confirmed to be effective) and short cycle. Is it OK to include HGH (5IU day on 2nd or 3rd week after I start cycle)?
Advice on diet or link would be appreciated as well
Thanks for reading, sorry for a long post. I believe in this friendly community you'll give me good advice!
)
so have to try what I have. Thanks for advice though.
it doesn't matter if it is your first cycle or not you can run Test and Deca both also. just make sure you run an AI to counter the Test sides. if your older like me you could go to a rejuvenation clinic and they would give you Test and Deca together for life. oh yeah fuck Test it is not the best AAS out there. 
