Proud Pangolin
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Hey guys so after my cycle end last summer i did 8weeks of PCT with 25mg of Enclomiphene, however my bloodwork came back and seems like it didnt work well.
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Now i want to do another PCT.
I would have chosen Nova (Tamoxifen) but i get nasty sides from it (to be more specific it neutralizes the effects of my adhd meds due to interaction with the dopamine system).
And as Enclomiphene didnt work well, my hope lays on Toremifen (60mg).
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Now, i was thinking about throwing some Enclomiphene in it aswell. Simply because if i understood correctly they work through different routes:
-Enclomiphene ensures my hypothalamus releases enough GnRH signals
-Tamoxifen and therefore i guess Toremifene aswell only mainly act at the pituitary? Making it somewhat more sensitive to GnRH?
Is this more or less correct?
.
So it may be beneficial to add 25mg Enclomiphene to the 60mg Torem, or what do you think?
As i didnt had any sides at all with 25 Enclomiphene, i could also double the dosages, meaning 60mg Torem and 50mg Enclo.
At least for Torem i know that doubling the dose wont achieve better results, but maybe for Enclomiphene as Clomid is also often used at dosages of 100,150mg which translates to 50,75mg Enclomiphene.
Or would this be unnecessary?
The number one priority here is restoring my LH and therefore testosterone.
However i have to admid that 50mg of Enclo on top of the torem is damm expensive and of course the risks of sideeffects gets larger.
Or maybe i should use normal clomid? I mean from what i read the additional isomer (zuclomiphene) is actually counterproductive for this matter?
So what is your advise?
bloodwork:
Be aware that these are the normal ranges of my lab and for some reasons they tend to differ sign. From source to source)
•Total Testosterone: 285 ng/dL (Normal: 240–870 ng/dL)
•Free Testosterone: 15.4 pg/mL (Normal: 7–22.7 pg/mL)
•SHBG (Sex Hormone Binding Globulin): 1.43 mg/L (Normal: 1.62–7.37 mg/L
•LH (Luteinizing Hormone): 2.4 mIU/mL (Normal: 0.6–12.1 mIU/mL)
•FSH (Follicle-Stimulating Hormone): 1.94 mIU/mL (Normal: 0.95–11.95 mIU/mL)
(
Now i want to do another PCT.
I would have chosen Nova (Tamoxifen) but i get nasty sides from it (to be more specific it neutralizes the effects of my adhd meds due to interaction with the dopamine system).
And as Enclomiphene didnt work well, my hope lays on Toremifen (60mg).
.
Now, i was thinking about throwing some Enclomiphene in it aswell. Simply because if i understood correctly they work through different routes:
-Enclomiphene ensures my hypothalamus releases enough GnRH signals
-Tamoxifen and therefore i guess Toremifene aswell only mainly act at the pituitary? Making it somewhat more sensitive to GnRH?
Is this more or less correct?
.
So it may be beneficial to add 25mg Enclomiphene to the 60mg Torem, or what do you think?
As i didnt had any sides at all with 25 Enclomiphene, i could also double the dosages, meaning 60mg Torem and 50mg Enclo.
At least for Torem i know that doubling the dose wont achieve better results, but maybe for Enclomiphene as Clomid is also often used at dosages of 100,150mg which translates to 50,75mg Enclomiphene.
Or would this be unnecessary?
The number one priority here is restoring my LH and therefore testosterone.
However i have to admid that 50mg of Enclo on top of the torem is damm expensive and of course the risks of sideeffects gets larger.
Or maybe i should use normal clomid? I mean from what i read the additional isomer (zuclomiphene) is actually counterproductive for this matter?
So what is your advise?
bloodwork:
Be aware that these are the normal ranges of my lab and for some reasons they tend to differ sign. From source to source)
•Total Testosterone: 285 ng/dL (Normal: 240–870 ng/dL)
•Free Testosterone: 15.4 pg/mL (Normal: 7–22.7 pg/mL)
•SHBG (Sex Hormone Binding Globulin): 1.43 mg/L (Normal: 1.62–7.37 mg/L
•LH (Luteinizing Hormone): 2.4 mIU/mL (Normal: 0.6–12.1 mIU/mL)
•FSH (Follicle-Stimulating Hormone): 1.94 mIU/mL (Normal: 0.95–11.95 mIU/mL)
