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We balance everything on labs besides testosterone. We balance our thyroid ect....Nothing wrong with balancing your estrogen. You wanna let the your e2 levels get as high as a menstruating teenage girl? Go ahead ....grow some titties and turn into a bitch. Haha
I can't say... you gotta try it yourself. What is your shbg? If it's on the lower side then once a week is a no go. Want once a week and still be stable? Switch to testosterone undecanoate that's what I do. Mind you, even though I feel very stable, I still need some AI sometimes.
I feel great on my dose now. I haven't used an AI.
Yes, we react differently. For me it's not about water retention, but rather moodiness and lack of drive in life and sex, laziness and no motivation when estro is a bit high. I think it's how we react to higher than normal female hormones what matters rather than numbers itself. E follows T and the ratio is adjusted, but some like me just don't tolerate higher E and we get symptoms. Take AI and it's gone, repeat when necessary.
Thanks yea hear different things with the ai dosing. Some take it on pin days. Some hours later some only when they show symptoms. Still waiting on results but pinned yesterday so not sure if I should take my ai today or hold off or drop dose in half. Already feel like my e2 is going up haha but prob just in my head.
Im the same i hate high estrogen.
Ive blasted AAS and never used an ai where are my titties? Test was at 4400 don't see any. Prolactin was tested but not estrogen, was a bit fine, not worried about ti. Not gonna jump on caber I feel fine. When you run AAS estrogen and prolactin go up, no biggie. If someone is all sensitive to estrogen and grows tits by looking at an amp maybe its not for them. I guess they can run AAS and blast AI but to assume that everyone who uses AAS is going to get tits is stupid.
this is what im talking about. guys having this guy thinking he needs an AI when he feels fine and now he's looking tor symptoms that aren't there.
Def do get high e2 symptoms though. Looking back at pics when e2 is high my nips are puffier and def hood more water in my face and body regardless of cardio and diet.
You may wanna look in the who's the biggest at meso thread. Not gonna call anyone out cause lots of guys hate ai......but some of the biggest dudes on here use AI. Personally I don't think either choice is bad but calling people out for keeping their estrogen in range is kind of dumb.
im calling people out for suggesting that at a small dose of test, a tiny dose, cruise dose, an AI should be needed. For years its been "only use AI as needed". Then we had TRT clinics start popping up (drug dealers) now everyone wants their e2 "dialed in"
Your wrong again. Lots of people need an ai on trt to keep sides at bay and estrogen in range. Not everyone is lucky as you. Lots of older guys who went low t after age 45 for example. Some people are just high convertors.We are all different.
agree to disagree. I mean if your shooting long acting test one time a week sub q, no wonder your having problems. maybe one time try prop ED IM. the way it was intended. long ester, infrequent, your asking for problems IMO. then there is the whole body fat, no idea why yours is, but Id imagine is I was 20 percent shooting gear sub q one a week with these long esters maybe id have problems. I feel like you guys are trying to reinvent the wheel no wonder shit is going wrong
I mean if the choices are 220lbs at 15 percent (fat to me) and 190lbs at 7 percent, I know which I prefer. to me being 7 percent isn't hard. it requires diet but once you get there, you eat maintenance, do cardio, not like your eating 2k calories. most guys can get lean and maintain it easy on 3k. wholesome food not crap and shakes, this is a fair amount of food
So still waiting for my test levels to come back but my e2 came back at 12. So my plan is it to drop the ai and continue with 150 mgs of test as long as my test levels look to be in a good range. Then retest in about 5 weeks.
So just got all blood work back on 150 mgs test and 12.5 mg aromasin twice a week.
not surprised, I told you to ditch it and people got upset. one other guy told you you don't need an AI. Lesson learned I guess. I can't keep track of the threads guy tanking their estrogen because they are told to "dial it in"So just got all blood work back on 150 mgs test and 12.5 mg aromasin twice a week.
E2 was 12
Shbg was 20
Test 779
Free test 196
