Alibaba HGH

[Roidster]

Then maybe you should reread your first response.

i just wrote that the hgh you used is like rubbish and in this case you used qingdao sigma. and if you got sides like problem with vision, etc i will not use their hgh.

 

[138casanova]

i just wrote that the hgh you used is like rubbish and in this case you used qingdao sigma. and if you got sides like problem with vision, etc i will not use their hgh.

Then my bad, brother. I read it as you were calling my story rubbish. Apologies.

 

[Vegeto]

I still have 2.5 kits left. It started okay. I was taking 2IU in the morning and 2IU in the afternoon. My dreams were crazy vivid, and I had noticeable water retention in my hands and my face. I also started to have slight cts. Unfortunately, my BP was really high, and I'm on meds to control it. So, I went down to 2IUs a day. Then, one day, I was on an appointment and I started having vision problems. I had cellophane halos running through both eyes. I was driving and the edges of signs and stop lights were just plain missing. It was scary af. That's never happened to me in my life before or after, and that was the last day I took it. I was on it for a little over two weeks. The dreams were amazing, but I never felt "good" while I was on it. Take it as anecdotal evidence for sure, just wanted to share my experience.

After i got my bloodresults from ocean, the doktor from the lab called me to talk about the high range of gh (warning/discuss protocol).

I didn't answer the call so they mailed me a list with all the sides/symptoms of too much gh and too less gh in dutch. all the sides you mentioned are known and normal. 2iu for 6-8 weeks sat-sun off should make you adopt to it, that helped for me.

But the vision problems is not known and not listed. I do know a friend who had the same kind of vision problems (never used juice/hgh and doesn't go to gym), months later the problem returned again. He went to the doktor and he got diagnosed with diabetes type1.

 

[138casanova]

After i got my bloodresults from ocean, the doktor from the lab called me to talk about the high range of gh (warning/discuss protocol).

I didn't answer the call so they mailed me a list with all the sides/symptoms of too much gh and too less gh in dutch. all the sides you mentioned are known and normal. 2iu for 6-8 weeks sat-sun off should make you adopt to it, that helped for me.

But the vision problems is not known and not listed. I do know a friend who had the same kind of vision problems (never used juice/hgh and doesn't go to gym), months later the problem returned again. He went to the doktor and he got diagnosed with diabetes type1.

Appreciate the feedback, and perhaps my glucose was elevated that day from the GH. I do see a wellness doctor every three months, and I check my blood sugar weekly. So far, there aren't any warning signs for diabetes. However, I didn't check it that day though, so maybe it spiked?

 

[Avies48]

I still have 2.5 kits left. It started okay. I was taking 2IU in the morning and 2IU in the afternoon. My dreams were crazy vivid, and I had noticeable water retention in my hands and my face. I also started to have slight cts. Unfortunately, my BP was really high, and I'm on meds to control it. So, I went down to 2IUs a day. Then, one day, I was on an appointment and I started having vision problems. I had cellophane halos running through both eyes. I was driving and the edges of signs and stop lights were just plain missing. It was scary af. That's never happened to me in my life before or after, and that was the last day I took it. I was on it for a little over two weeks. The dreams were amazing, but I never felt "good" while I was on it. Take it as anecdotal evidence for sure, just wanted to share my experience.

Well i guess some dont know that ur eyes and kidneys can both get fucked up from using growth hormones?

This is honestly a real side effect that can come from hgh

There is a guy either here or on pro muscle who actually had his eye get jacked and had to re-attach a chunk of it from behind due to hgh as it causes swelling and narrowing from the pressure.... and it just completely detached... No joke


But i do beloeve it is caused from the pressure from the water being held? But i could be wrong,

 

[Crunchy73]

Not sure this is interesting for others but

I contacted Ocean to get there pricing on gear/gh
Been using Sigma for Raws ++ so far.

That Jack Character - What D**K! Not spending a cent with them ever!

Sigma stuff has all been confirmed by bloods.
Do bloodwork every two months, trying to play it smart

Strange fella - and weird customer service.....

Hello Jack,
I just read online about your company
Would you please send me your pricing on steroid powders, hgh and Sarms ?


JACK ZANG2021-03-17 10:08


yes、


If you have a premade list,

If not testosterone Cyp, Enanthate, Blend,
Masterone , Primobolan, Trenbolone Enanthate/hex, Deca both Decanoate and /NPP, Oxymetolone, oxandrolone, 4C, D- Bol ++

JACK ZANG2021-03-17 10:08


which you need ?
quantity>?


Hard to give you quantities without knowing pricing
I guess you have pyramide on pricing like most, 10, 100, 500, 1000g ?

Hgh 10, 50 and 100 kits as well ?
All kits 100 iu ?



JACK ZANG2021-03-17 10:12
willl ggive you price later
100IU kit
hgh usd60/box

Thank you


JACK ZANG2021-03-17 10:51
buy. now?


It would be for ordering now yes
Before ordering, you need to supply pricing


JACK ZANG2021-03-18 11:42

???
i have already give you price

on one item only
I asked you in regards to steroid powders as well
_______________________

JACK ZANG2021-03-19 11:02
tell exact name
quantity
ship were

_______________________
I did in an earlier message
You need cas #'s on all ??
You do not have a pricelist for the various poweders you supply ??


JACK ZANG2021-03-19 11:49
shut up
go away
what is the fucking meaning!

_____________________________________
The fucking meaning ??
Getting your prices on the various products that was interesting

But you now what - don't bother............


JACK ZANG2021-03-19 11:51
bye
fuck you mother
shabi

_______________________
Fuck you too!
She's 80 - so be my guest ;-)
I'll make sure to post this on the forums, making sure what company for people to avoid

 

[kinkos]

Not sure this is interesting for others but

I contacted Ocean to get there pricing on gear/gh
Been using Sigma for Raws ++ so far.

That Jack Character - What D**K! Not spending a cent with them ever!

Sigma stuff has all been confirmed by bloods.
Do bloodwork every two months, trying to play it smart

Strange fella - and weird customer service.....

Hello Jack,
I just read online about your company
Would you please send me your pricing on steroid powders, hgh and Sarms ?


JACK ZANG2021-03-17 10:08


yes、


If you have a premade list,

If not testosterone Cyp, Enanthate, Blend,
Masterone , Primobolan, Trenbolone Enanthate/hex, Deca both Decanoate and /NPP, Oxymetolone, oxandrolone, 4C, D- Bol ++

JACK ZANG2021-03-17 10:08


which you need ?
quantity>?


Hard to give you quantities without knowing pricing
I guess you have pyramide on pricing like most, 10, 100, 500, 1000g ?

Hgh 10, 50 and 100 kits as well ?
All kits 100 iu ?



JACK ZANG2021-03-17 10:12
willl ggive you price later
100IU kit
hgh usd60/box

Thank you


JACK ZANG2021-03-17 10:51
buy. now?


It would be for ordering now yes
Before ordering, you need to supply pricing


JACK ZANG2021-03-18 11:42

???
i have already give you price

on one item only
I asked you in regards to steroid powders as well
_______________________

JACK ZANG2021-03-19 11:02
tell exact name
quantity
ship were

_______________________
I did in an earlier message
You need cas #'s on all ??
You do not have a pricelist for the various poweders you supply ??


JACK ZANG2021-03-19 11:49
shut up
go away
what is the fucking meaning!

_____________________________________
The fucking meaning ??
Getting your prices on the various products that was interesting

But you now what - don't bother............


JACK ZANG2021-03-19 11:51
bye
fuck you mother
shabi

_______________________
Fuck you too!
She's 80 - so be my guest ;-)
I'll make sure to post this on the forums, making sure what company for people to avoid

Lmao jack is just hilarious . Do you mind posting your bloods so we can see some results?

 

[Crunchy73]

Lmao jack is just hilarious . Do you mind posting your bloods so we can see some results?

He might be - but he's not getting any of my money
Sigma with Alisa has always been above and beyond and I will keep my business with her or PPL


Last blood taken Feb 10th (based in Europe so you need to recalculate yourself)

Homebrew - std 18/2, GSO
Masteron 300mg/ml - 1cc.e5d
Cyp 250mg/ml 1cc.e5d



Test - Above measurement scale = +1500
Same with E2 (Added aromasin 8mg ED after bloods)

Test values first followed by reference values

S-FSH < 1 1 -
12 S-LH < 1 1 - 10
S-E2-17beta 0.34 0,00 - 0,17
S-Progesterone < 3 <3
S-Testosterone > 50 8 - 35
S-SHBG 36 8 - 60
S-Creatinin 97 60 - 105 S-eGFR (CKD-EPI) 79 >65
S-Glucose non fasted. 4.7
S-Cholesterol 3.4 3,3 - 6,9
S-HDL- 1.4 0,8 - 2,1
S-LDL- 1.4 1,4 - 4,7
S-FSH < 1 1 - 12
S-LH < 1 1 - 10

 

[Vegeto]

He might be - but he's not getting any of my money
Sigma with Alisa has always been above and beyond and I will keep my business with her or PPL


Last blood taken Feb 10th (based in Europe so you need to recalculate yourself)

Homebrew - std 18/2, GSO
Masteron 300mg/ml - 1cc.e5d
Cyp 250mg/ml 1cc.e5d



Test - Above measurement scale = +1500
Same with E2 (Added aromasin 8mg ED after bloods)

Test values first followed by reference values

S-FSH < 1 1 -
12 S-LH < 1 1 - 10
S-E2-17beta 0.34 0,00 - 0,17
S-Progesterone < 3 <3
S-Testosterone > 50 8 - 35
S-SHBG 36 8 - 60
S-Creatinin 97 60 - 105 S-eGFR (CKD-EPI) 79 >65
S-Glucose non fasted. 4.7
S-Cholesterol 3.4 3,3 - 6,9
S-HDL- 1.4 0,8 - 2,1
S-LDL- 1.4 1,4 - 4,7
S-FSH < 1 1 - 12
S-LH < 1 1 - 10

Lol dude, i don't want to defend anyone or anything, feel free to buy from wherever you want. But reading your convo with Jack.. Odds are high i would respond the same way like he did.

Second, this is a alibaba HGH topic, i will speak for myself but i came into this topic to find the best quality affordable HGH, not testosteron or any other gear.

You have made 2 posts i can see from your profile, maybe you can post something helpfull, there is a saying, whoe doesn't share doesn't duplicate.
So while you are buying from Sigma, i am very curious about their new stronger batch, please order a kit from alissa and share some bloodwork of the hgh serum. If the score is better than Ocean's i will thank you and buy from there also...

 

[Crunchy73]

@Vegeto

Sorry, did not mean to derail the thread!

Will order some kits and include them in my next bloodwork.

 

[BodyMechanic]

He is talking shit if he's still buying from PPL after they were compromised and customers started getting extortion emails. GTFOH!

 

[Crunchy73]

He is talking shit if he's still buying from PPL after they were compromised and customers started getting extortion emails. GTFOH!

For the last two years I've sourced all my needs from Sigma.

I have personally never received any extortion email(s). When was the breach?

Guess I haven' t paid attention....

 

[BodyMechanic]

For the last two years I've sourced all my needs from Sigma.

I have personally never received any extortion email(s). When was the breach?

Guess I haven' t paid attention....

Not sigma, PPL.

 

[fitnessgeek]

Before alibaba removed the listing i compared the transaction
both had very much transactions but sigma had more transactions

-sigma had small buyers of 1-5 kits 90%
-while ocean had big buyers with 100-500 kits 90%
Bought mostly by US and Canada

Sigma was more expensive. Maybe because i did only order 2 kits from them.

If i did this test 2-3 hours after injection instead of 3.5 hours i believe the value would have been higher 30+. And for sure this hgh is being rebranded and resold big, not my business, just saying.

i still have 17 vials from ocean left and 16 vials from sigma (used 4 sigma vials at the start of my cycle) I can go for 2 more months untill im empty.

After 2 months i will go for ocean again myself and with it i will maybe order 1 kit from sigma to test the new stronger batch 3,9gram/vial i mentioned about in my previous post.

Alibaba delisted all hgh. No explanation. However my Qingdao Sigma is very legit. Pinning 4IU a day, and had off the wall IGF1 (the measurement you should be testing for HGH)! See attached. IGF1 stays longer in the system and is in direct proportion to the serum HGH levels.

 

[Vegeto]

Alibaba delisted all hgh. No explanation. However my Qingdao Sigma is very legit. Pinning 4IU a day, and had off the wall IGF1 (the measurement you should be testing for HGH)! See attached. IGF1 stays longer in the system and is in direct proportion to the serum HGH levels.

I stated before that testing igf 1 levels would be a waste of money for me because i have deca in my system. and if you see igf 1 tests based on pharma grade you will see a wide variation of different levels.one person takes longer to peak igf1 than the other in shorter time, just every humans body acting different to that. To me is waste to test that. i put my trust on serum levels and leave the rest for the body to react

 

[Vegeto]

i'm upping the dosage today to 6iu ed split into 3x2iu,5on2 off

but my hgh cycle is getting close to 6 months. never did go longer than this.
i am thinking to extend my cycle for another 6 months but i cannot find any search hits on the forum to find shared experience, anyone used longer than 1 year+ ? (i am aware bout insulin sensitivity) recommended or not?

 

[Roidster]

i'm upping the dosage today to 6iu ed split into 3x2iu,5on2 off

but my hgh cycle is getting close to 6 months. never did go longer than this.
i am thinking to extend my cycle for another 6 months but i cannot find any search hits on the forum to find shared experience, anyone used longer than 1 year+ ? (i am aware bout insulin sensitivity) recommended or not?

My blood glucose raised after almost 1 1/2 months use of hgh. Fasted bg is around 80mg/dz, now it is around 110mg/dz.

I am avoiding carbs 1-2h before and after i pinned hgh to keep bloodglucose low.

 

[Avies48]

My blood glucose raised after almost 1 1/2 months use of hgh. Fasted bg is around 80mg/dz, now it is around 110mg/dz.

I am avoiding carbs 1-2h before and after i pinned hgh to keep bloodglucose low.

What other things are u doing to keep ur bg low? Id need to be on keto, which i may entertain here soon, but also want to put on muscle so protein city i suppose?

Any carbs that can be taken while on gh with minimal bg impact?

 

[138casanova]

What other things are u doing to keep ur bg low? Id need to be on keto, which i may entertain here soon, but also want to put on muscle so protein city i suppose?

Any carbs that can be taken while on gh with minimal bg impact?

Try some Na-RALA for your BG.

 

[Teerawdogg]

sup guys, new here to the forum... Does anybody have any experience with Hebei Oroni biotech??
i placed an order for test e with them recently and starting think i got scammed. its been about 3 weeks now and the tracking number they gave me hasnt updated....