[Alpha-Pharma] Testobolin 250 [Bloodwork]

[inforthegains]

Testobolin amps from Domestic-Supply, purchased Apr/May.

500 mg/wk, pinning Sat/Wed.

AI is exemestane 6.25mg ED (from ADC). Apparently that is too little...

Blood was drawn 36.5 hours after first pin of week 6.

 

[Wunderpus]

I have been wanting to try Alpha for a while now.

This is 10x the injected amount before the testing, I'd call this good. I think people are assuming it should be 10x the weekly amount, which I'm not really following.

 

[roastdawg]

I have been wanting to try Alpha for a while now.

This is 10x the injected amount before the testing, I'd call this good. I think people are assuming it should be 10x the weekly amount, which I'm not really following.

With two weekly injections I think it should be closer to 8x on average. Everyone is different though.

 

[Wunderpus]

With two weekly injections I think it should be closer to 8x on average. Everyone is different though.

Agreed, but injection site etc can effect this.

Seems in range to me.

 

[inforthegains]

Yeah I saw many threads here and elsewhere with bw protocols...24h, 36h, 48h, 72h (all for test E)...saw one saying 36h +- 12h so I went with that. Saw 7-10x given as expected range for weekly dose...then given as expected range for only the dose of last pin...

So here are my results @ 36h, lol.

 

[Wunderpus]

Yeah I saw many threads here and elsewhere with bw protocols...24h, 36h, 48h, 72h (all for test E)...saw one saying 36h +- 12h so I went with that. Saw 7-10x given as expected range for weekly dose...then given as expected range for only the dose of last pin...

So here are my results @ 36h, lol.

Where did you pin?

 

[inforthegains]

Where did you pin?

Was rotating glutes/delts wks 1-6 (added in quads wk 7).

Last pin prior to bloods was glute.

 

[redrum720]

Wat was your natural TT before pinning

 

[inforthegains]

Wat was your natural TT before pinning

This is the part where I say I very foolishly did not do pre-cycle bloods. Age 29, first cycle, no suspicion of low T. But I understand these results are much less useful with no baseline.

 

[Wunderpus]

Wat was your natural TT before pinning

Either way, his natty production is almost non-existent after 6 weeks. Shouldn't matter too much.

 

[inforthegains]

Assuming the (7-)10x rule is applicable per weekly dose, then even considering the low end (3500), my results would put me just below 75% of that...I think I recall seeing some threads around which pegged AP at 60-70% of indicated dose.

I have seen bloods posted and/or mentioned @ 3500-4500 for 500 mg/wk, so...

I am doubling my exemestane to 12.5mg ED (I should have also mentioned I am on 500 iu/wk of HCG, dosed biweekly, 24h before each pin). I believe this should rein in my E2 adequately, although ofc I may be incorrect.

If my TT is indeed low for the dose then I may double up on my remaining AP while I look for another source for the rest of the cycle. I had planned a 16 wk cycle so assuming I do switch sources around wk 9, I would plan to get another run of bloods somewhere around wk 14.

And lol @ two mid-cycle bloods and no pre-cycle bloods. A strong start, I know.

 

[mercury]

You must have good source some guys I know got only some junk.

 

[rpbb]

This is the part where I say I very foolishly did not do pre-cycle bloods. Age 29, first cycle, no suspicion of low T. But I understand these results are much less useful with no baseline.

natural levels before pinning means nothing. all natural production is shut down on cycle

 

[zombie]

This is the part where I say I very foolishly did not do pre-cycle bloods. Age 29, first cycle, no suspicion of low T. But I understand these results are much less useful with no baseline.

The reason why you want a pre-cycle blood test is so after you PCT you can blood test and see how well you recovered from your cycle.

 

[inforthegains]

The reason why you want a pre-cycle blood test is so after you PCT you can blood test and see how well you recovered from your cycle.

Yeah after having all ancillaries in hand for weeks, the gear showed up on a Saturday afternoon and I jumped right in, hasty as fuck. Now ofc I wish I had waited and done the bloods first, but at this point I'll just have to see where I land after PCT.

 

[spj]

A few months ago, I'd have said its underdosed. The more N more I see, I think it's proper. I seen pharma that was almost exactly where u r at with 2x week. n with the lab reports from anabolic who tested Testobolin at I believe over 250 mg, I say it's good. as was stated I believe injection site, how many weekly injections, hrs after pin, who knows what else plays into factor. Maybe run a few more weeks n get them.again 48 hrs, maybe 24 hrs, n see what u can come up with. But I honestly don't think u will get any higher off any other gear dosed the same n drawn the same. Thanx for posting, I feel were all getting closer to coming up with peak numbers. I just had blood drawn today on sigma sustanon pinned ed and drawn 12 hrs after.

 

[mercury]

A few months ago, I'd have said its underdosed.

all depends where you get it from I have seen vials with AP labels total junk, I guess somebody is counterfeiting it.

but on other hand I had AP and it was very potent.

 

[inforthegains]

A few months ago, I'd have said its underdosed. The more N more I see, I think it's proper. I seen pharma that was almost exactly where u r at with 2x week. n with the lab reports from anabolic who tested Testobolin at I believe over 250 mg, I say it's good. as was stated I believe injection site, how many weekly injections, hrs after pin, who knows what else plays into factor. Maybe run a few more weeks n get them.again 48 hrs, maybe 24 hrs, n see what u can come up with. But I honestly don't think u will get any higher off any other gear dosed the same n drawn the same. Thanx for posting, I feel were all getting closer to coming up with peak numbers. I just had blood drawn today on sigma sustanon pinned ed and drawn 12 hrs after.

thx yea and I read through what @zombie posted on pharm bloods, and saw the mass spec results posted for the AP gear. so I guess this can be chalked up to protocol. although I'm guessing QC is an issue with AP as it would be with any other UGL...or counterfeiting as @mercury mentioned. although this batch, while potentially underdosed, is obviously not completely bunk. I imagine I should just proceed as planned.

 

[spj]

Ap amps would be very hard to fake. If they go through all that trouble, they would be better off on their own label. did u run the verification codes on box?

 

[spj]

all depends where you get it from I have seen vials with AP labels total junk, I guess somebody is counterfeiting it.

but on other hand I had AP and it was very potent.

I could understand the vials but ap amps and boxes r pretty unique.