AlphaGear Source

[Juice n Goose]

I mean, I hate to start targeting members but, really the UGLS have no power unless guys are willing to participate in these givaways and supposedly placing orders to a UGL that has not met our new standard.

What if I or one of the vets were to create a thread called "KNOWN SHILLS -- DO NOT TAKE ADVICE OR OPINIONS FROM THESE MEMBERS"

Guys who are willing to participate with a non vetted lab IMO are shills, or just want free shit, either way its not good for the members.

We DO have a problem here when members begin to buy from an unvetted wannabee source!
I Back your play however you choose to handle this.No we would NOT be having this discussion if this werent happening. From what I gather the members doing this are,largely somewhat new here> This is prob is not unusual as they dont know why we vet sources but that sounds like a forgivable excuse.Excuses are not forgivable.
Perhaps an explanation, Not an excuse.
I just cannot understand what the issue is except I think we have a bunch of people very eager to get ANY gear possible.
Yes we DO have a few vetted somewhat good sources,like Get Tm but they dont seem willing to take shit from Newbs, Naps being somewhat the same. I spoke with GET's rep and he thinks many of the people are simply spoiled and unrealistic in their expectations.
OUR newbs can be that way too but most are not disrespectful.
I for one cannot continue to try and keep our newbs from making poor decisions and plan to keep up the pressure on the proby sources.
I just cannot fathom a source refusing to folow protocol, That is a clear indication of future behavior and that cannot be tolerated because in a couple weeks we may be back to the utter Chaos we experienced with recent sources.
Meso,as a whole stands to lose alot in the process.
All we are trying to do is provide an environment conducive to a smooth running underground which right now,Alpha is apparently trying to circumvent.
Herein lies the danger. We want a peaceful,orderly board and those whom I naively sought to protect are almost single-handedly pulling down the peace.
Azazul..we ave been working hard but I fear we may have to ratchet our efforts up!
Do you agree with any of this or am I merely pissing in the wind?
GOOSE

 

[AlphaGear]

Fact: You do not have a sanitary lab that you work from
Fact: You posses no laminar flow hood
Fact: You posses no autoclave

You posted a pic of a filter on your granite or formica counter top, next to the stove you brew on.. , I assume you have a blender up there, most guys who body build have a blender on their kitchen counter.

Well maybe your right and I'm wrong, your lab is in your living room next to your tv and once you are done brewing on the stove you move out to the living room so you can watch tv while you filter.

ok ok, sorry you are set up in the basement and you have a bad ass, sterile, lab with all new bunsen burners, a flow hood, autoclave, even a hot blond female lab assistant to handle the influx of business that is about to happen

And then you wake up in your lazy boy and realize the timer is going off on the microwave to tell you that the test e on your stove is done brewing

Your facts, aren't facts. I have ACCESS to everything mentioned. I don't own all of it, but I have access. I like how people come up with assumptions and call them facts.

AG

 

[bickel29]

that is how I know I hurt your feelings Ballz..cause youre a pussy!!EOS!
Goose

Goose - I think you need a new nickname for USCBallin, other than Ballz. A couple of us thought you were goin' after JonnyBallz. I was confused, since I had never seen any beef between you and JB.

 

[ironwill1951]

how about numbnuts....

Goose - I think you need a new nickname for USCBallin, other than Ballz. A couple of us thought you were goin' after JonnyBallz. I was confused, since I had never seen any beef between you and JB.

 

[azazul]

We DO have a problem here when members begin to buy from an unvetted wannabee source!
I Back your play however you choose to handle this.No we would NOT be having this discussion if this werent happening. From what I gather the members doing this are,largely somewhat new here> This is prob is not unusual as they dont know why we vet sources but that sounds like a forgivable excuse.Excuses are not forgivable.
Perhaps an explanation, Not an excuse.
I just cannot understand what the issue is except I think we have a bunch of people very eager to get ANY gear possible.
Yes we DO have a few vetted somewhat good sources,like Get Tm but they dont seem willing to take shit from Newbs, Naps being somewhat the same. I spoke with GET's rep and he thinks many of the people are simply spoiled and unrealistic in their expectations.
OUR newbs can be that way too but most are not disrespectful.
I for one cannot continue to try and keep our newbs from making poor decisions and plan to keep up the pressure on the proby sources.
I just cannot fathom a source refusing to folow protocol, That is a clear indication of future behavior and that cannot be tolerated because in a couple weeks we may be back to the utter Chaos we experienced with recent sources.
Meso,as a whole stands to lose alot in the process.
All we are trying to do is provide an environment conducive to a smooth running underground which right now,Alpha is apparently trying to circumvent.
Herein lies the danger. We want a peaceful,orderly board and those whom I naively sought to protect are almost single-handedly pulling down the peace.
Azazul..we ave been working hard but I fear we may have to ratchet our efforts up!
Do you agree with any of this or am I merely pissing in the wind?
GOOSE

Yes goose, the very people we are trying to protect (the newbs) are probably the biggest offenders..or are they..
Is it possible the offenders are some of the the same over and over again creating new handles to try and get free shit from new ugls?
And the plot thickens.

 

[azazul]

Your facts, aren't facts. I have ACCESS to everything mentioned. I don't own all of it, but I have access. I like how people come up with assumptions and call them facts.

AG

Alpha.Cmon seriously?
You have access to it thats great..what the hell does that mean, you can go look at safe brewing equipment and wish you had it in your house?

If you were planning on using this equipment you would have posted it and avoided all of this hassle your getting now, I have had a few guys PM'ing me somewhat freaked out about gear they bought off of you and how they should filter it.

Guys, don't order stuff from alpha until he has the right equipment.

You may have the best intentions in the world and thats great, you could be the nicest guy on meso and that is also great, but at some point you are going to get someone sick by not having the proper equipment and cutting corners once you get busy.

 

[AlphaGear]

The sterility of my gear is comparable to RX. And when I say I have access, I don't mean I'm just able to look. I'm able to use the equipment during open lab.

AG

Alpha.Cmon seriously?
You have access to it thats great..what the hell does that mean, you can go look at safe brewing equipment and wish you had it in your house?

If you were planning on using this equipment you would have posted it and avoided all of this hassle your getting now, I have had a few guys PM'ing me somewhat freaked out about gear they bought off of you and how they should filter it.

Guys, don't order stuff from alpha until he has the right equipment.

You may have the best intentions in the world and thats great, you could be the nicest guy on meso and that is also great, but at some point you are going to get someone sick by not having the proper equipment and cutting corners once you get busy.

 

[azazul]

The sterility of my gear is comparable to RX. And when I say I have access, I don't mean I'm just able to look. I'm able to use the equipment during open lab.

AG

pics and I will stfu and order from you even.

 

[AlphaGear]

pics and I will stfu and order from you even.

Next time I am there I will sneak some pics. Technically, I'm not allowed to have my phone in the lab.

AG

 

[biebs111]

what i am more concerned with is the fact that nothing has shown up so far. 13 days from the original ship date, and 4 days from the pack that was reshipped "express" and was supposed to arrive in 2 business days.

i get that i should not have made an order from a new source so quickly, so maybe it is going to be an expensive lesson, but the lack of communication and PMs going unanswered (at least to me) is really troubling and gives me the impression that AG has run off with my money.

i hope that i am wrong AG, and that you end up being a very successful source who people can count on, but right now based on my experience so far it is not looking good.

 

[bkent504]

Email him, I wouldn't rely on PMs for anything. I'm sure he'll make it right.

 

[biebs111]

i just did that, communication through pm has been real good up to this point, past few days nothing. i understand that you are busy AG but i do not think that what i am asking for is unreasonable considering how long it has been since i placed my order and that i still have nothing in hand!!!

 

[AlphaGear]

what i am more concerned with is the fact that nothing has shown up so far. 13 days from the original ship date, and 4 days from the pack that was reshipped "express" and was supposed to arrive in 2 business days.

i get that i should not have made an order from a new source so quickly, so maybe it is going to be an expensive lesson, but the lack of communication and PMs going unanswered (at least to me) is really troubling and gives me the impression that AG has run off with my money.

i hope that i am wrong AG, and that you end up being a very successful source who people can count on, but right now based on my experience so far it is not looking good.

Bro I've been replying to your PMs. When I click send, it takes me to the login page, (even tho I'm already logged in). Maybe that is why you're not getting my PMs. You'll have your pack this week. And I've applied a $50 credit to your account.

Also, keep in mind, the postal service admitted this was their mistake. So not only am I losing a few packs that I have to replace, but to add insult to injury, I'm losing another $50 out of my pocket on top of it.

AG

 

[AlphaGear]

i just did that, communication through pm has been real good up to this point, past few days nothing. i understand that you are busy AG but i do not think that what i am asking for is unreasonable considering how long it has been since i placed my order and that i still have nothing in hand!!!

Past few days, when I try to PM, I just keep getting brought to the login page. Has anyone else experienced this or found a solution?

AG

 

[biebs111]

Bro I've been replying to your PMs. When I click send, it takes me to the login page, (even tho I'm already logged in). Maybe that is why you're not getting my PMs. You'll have your pack this week. And I've applied a $50 credit to your account.

Also, keep in mind, the postal service admitted this was their mistake. So not only am I losing a few packs that I have to replace, but to add insult to injury, I'm losing another $50 out of my pocket on top of it.

AG

weird, im sure that you can understand my frustration! i have not gotten anything on my last few PMs that i sent.

i did just email you, all i am looking for is a tracking # on the reship you sent.

im not trying to be an ass, but if you have been on my side of the fence before, you know exactly how i feel, and a TN on a pack this late shouldn't be a big issue.

 

[Colt44]

Past few days, when I try to PM, I just keep getting brought to the login page. Has anyone else experienced this or found a solution?

AG

Try clicking remember me when you login.

 

[AlphaGear]

Try clicking remember me when you login.

Ok cool I will do that thank you!

 

[Spyder]

Next time I am there I will sneak some pics. Technically, I'm not allowed to have my phone in the lab.

AG

Please put a piece of paper in the shot with AlphaGear on it and the date.

 

[Spyder]

Past few days, when I try to PM, I just keep getting brought to the login page. Has anyone else experienced this or found a solution?

AG

Try clicking remember me when you login.

This is the problem especially if you are using TOR.

 

[USCballin]

1. Pics and description of brewing process. - I did post some pics of the items I use, as well as describing the process of sterilization

2.Secure email that that does not include safemail-a. Pgp encryption highly recommended - PGP is set up, I'm open for suggestions when it comes to another email provider

3. Full disclosure.
- a. Who are your reps/schills don't try to be sneaky we almost always catch
On - I have no reps or schills
-b. If free gear is given name who it was given to - I listed a couple memners

4. References. Do you source at other boards. - I am not a source anywhere else

5. Sources limited to one thread pushing their product. - I have only posted 1 thread

6. If source had a website it cannot be hosted in the U.S.- Still working on this, will be hosted in Malaysia

Highly recommended

1. Pgp encryption - Done

2. Bit coin payment option - Can look into this if people really want me to

3. Set up an escrow service - Another thing I'll look into, I haven;t heard many people mention this

4. Donate fund to labmax for random testing by members. - Are these available for purchase in bulk?


What else am I missing bros?

AG

Just a bit of advice....why don't you start taking Vanilla Reload Cards? It's easy for customers, it only costs them $3.95, and doesn't require them to fill out personal information or answer any question like W/U or M/G. All you have to do to collect is get the PIN on the back of their cards. Just a thought to help the members as well as yourself.