Am i dying, please help me out here. My doc is freaking me out

[Vomiit]

Here are my bloods,
My TSH is high as shit, it was at 3.2 a few months back now its at 6.82
My liver enzymes are worrying me
My HDL is low
My LDL is high reference
And my UN is fucking high as shit.
Im only running 700mg test a week, i know that is a pretty big dose, however i know guys who run a gram STACKED with other compounds.
Are my bloods really in the shitter? Take a look.

CHOLESTEROL

Your Value :123 mg/dL



TRIGLYCERIDES

Your Value: 45 mg/dL



HDL CHOLESTEROL

LOW

Your Value : 33 mg/dL



LDL CHOLESTEROL CALCULATED

Moderately high

Your Value: 81 mg/dL



CHOL/HDL RATIO

Your Value : 3.7





GLUCOSE

High

Your Value :96 mg/dL



BUN

Your Value: 30 mg/dL





CREATININE

Your Value : 1.03 mg/dL



AFR. AMER. EGFR

Your Value : 112 mL/min/1.73m2



NON-AFR. AMER. EGFR

Your Value : 92 mL/min/1.73m2



BUN / CREAT RATIO

Your Value : 29



SODIUM

Your Value : 138 mmol/L



POTASSIUM

Your Value : 4.6 mmol/L





CHLORIDE

Your Value : 103 mmol/L



PROTEIN, TOTAL

Your Value : 6.5 g/dL





ALBUMIN

Your Value : 3.9 g/dL



GLOBULIN, CALCULATED

Your Value : 2.6 g/dL



A/G RATIO

Your Value : 1.5



ALKALINE PHOSPHATASE

moderate-high

Your Value : 91 U/L



SGOT (AST)

HIGH

Your Value : 52 U/L



SGPT (ALT)

high

Your Value: 48 U/L



Test is around 5k
Free test is like 2.3k
(Got tested at a different lab and havent changed doses)



ESTRADIOL

Your Value : <15 pg/mL



SEX HORMONE BINDING GLOBULIN

Your Value

19.60 nmol/L


TSH

HIGH

Your Value: 6.82 uIU/mL

 

[Vomiit]

Here is what my doc had to say “your testosterone is extremely high. your liver enzymes are showing signs of inflammation
thyroid test is abnormal
kidney labs are mildly abnormal
good cholesterol is low
blood count is normal


I advise discontinue use of testosterone - I think most of these abnormalities are related to the use of testosterone. Furthermor your levels are more than 3x the upper limits of normal and you may have long term advserse health effects from taking the testosterone

We should recheck your thyroid in 6 weeks. If it remains abnormal I will refer you to endocrinology. “
Did i perma fuck myself?

 

[Vomiit]

Im only freaking the fuck out due to the fact im also itching everywhere, and that is indicative of stage 3 kidney disease. Only 19 guys, played with fire, decided to blast and cruise (cruise is 100mg a week) first cycle went perfect though! So what the fuck. I guess i thought i was smart, and ended up being a fucking tard. I would appreciate any help or insight. Thanks in advance.

 

[Megadick3000]

Im not an endocrinologist so i really cant advise you on the soecifics but im curious to hear what others will say so im commenting to get alerts.

I will say though bro, at 19 you dont need to be juicing your in the prime of your natty potential. If your worried, consider an abort with a PCT and then reevaluate your health.

Can you give more detail on your cycle? You said 700mg/wk, for how long have you been on that dose? How long were you planning to run the cycle?

You say blast and cruise, so after your last cycle you went on 100mg/wk of test indefinitely until this latest cycle? Im pretty sure 100mg/wk is less test than youd be producing naturally at 19 so im not sure that was a sensible choice verse a PCT. plus the longer you keep your HPTA suppressed the harder your gonna make things on your endocrine system. I didnt know teenagers blast and cruise, thats more for the older guys seems silly to suppress yoir endogenous production with a TRT dose that may be less than your endogenous levels would be (counterproductive). I could be wrong though but i have a friend in his 40s on legit TRT and hes being given 250mg once every 2 weeks to achieve a normal age-adjusted range of testosterone, and thats age adjusted for a man in his 40s.

Anyways i hope some bros here can give you better analysis of all yoir bloods. Stay safe.

 

[Vomiit]

Im not an endocrinologist so i really cant advise you on the soecifics but im curious to hear what others will say so im commenting to get alerts.

I will say though bro, at 19 you dont need to be juicing your in the prime of your natty potential. If your worried, consider an abort with a PCT and then reevaluate your health.

Can you give more detail on your cycle? You said 700mg/wk, for how long have you been on that dose? How long were you planning to run the cycle?

You say blast and cruise, so after your last cycle you went on 100mg/wk of test indefinitely until this latest cycle? Im pretty sure 100mg/wk is less test than youd be producing naturally at 19 so im not sure that was a sensible choice verse a PCT. plus the longer you keep your HPTA suppressed the harder your gonna make things on your endocrine system. I didnt know teenagers blast and cruise, thats more for the older guys seems silly to suppress yoir endogenous production with a TRT dose that may be less than your endogenous levels would be (counterproductive). I could be wrong though but i have a friend in his 40s on legit TRT and hes being given 250mg once every 2 weeks to achieve a normal age-adjusted range of testosterone, and thats age adjusted for a man in his 40s.

Anyways i hope some bros here can give you better analysis of all yoir bloods. Stay safe.

Thanks brother, well i destroyed my test by going anorexic at 13-15 so i ended up with a 300-400 test level at 17. I decided i couldn't do it anymore as i was pounding away at the weights compulsively and not growing. I have made wonderful progress since being on AAS and the decision would have been worth it if my bloods werent so sus. (100 a week puts me at 800 total T) and if i go too high, like 160+ and i squeeze my nips i get a clear white fluid...tmi, but shit, its scary. This happens even with my prolactin and estrogen crushed.

 

[Vomiit]

I had a mental breakdown and balled my fucking eyes out like a woman when I learned 57% of men who reported nip discharge had some sort of malignant shit in there. I’m still freaking the fuck out but my doc didnt seem that worried because im on AAS. Still, with prolactin and estro crushed idk why it would be happening.

As for more cycle info, im coming up on the 15th week of this cycle (700mg per week with E3D frequency) Was going for 16 weeks but im getting very worried about my health, my immortality complex vanished.

 

[Biggerarms22]

Physically you're fine. What I see here is a hypochondriac, and someone who's got some generalized anxiety. You're fine to end the cycle now, no reason to even run test only for 16 weeks. I imagine that shit really tapered off after 10-12 weeks anyway. Give your body a break, TRT on 100MG (as you've stated having very low natural test) time on equals time off, so have 16 weeks on 100MG. Go back, get bloods and I can almost guarantee you you'll be all better. Its good to see you're not running grams of gear or on tren, gh and slin like some of these young guys immediately do. You're cycling responsibly from what I can tell, you're doing a good job of that. But what you may need for the time being is meds, or to up your meds. An SSRI could really help. No shame in that, and it takes a real man to look in the mirror. I'll tell you that when I was your age I was on an SSRI, It'll help get you right and you'd be glad you did.

 

[Vomiit]

Physically you're fine. What I see here is a hypochondriac, and someone who's got some generalized anxiety. You're fine to end the cycle now, no reason to even run test only for 16 weeks. I imagine that shit really tapered off after 10-12 weeks anyway. Give your body a break, TRT on 100MG (as you've stated having very low natural test) time on equals time off, so have 16 weeks on 100MG. Go back, get bloods and I can almost guarantee you you'll be all better. Its good to see you're not running grams of gear or on tren, gh and slin like some of these young guys immediately do. You're cycling responsibly from what I can tell, you're doing a good job of that. But what you may need for the time being is meds, or to up your meds. An SSRI could really help. No shame in that, and it takes a real man to look in the mirror. I'll tell you that when I was your age I was on an SSRI, It'll help get you right and you'd be glad you did.

I appreciate the insight brother, definitely going to get evaluated. I’ve had people tell me to hop on an SSRI before, and i always just pushed it away. However, if its obvious through a post that i need one then its time to pull the trigger.

On another note, if i were to cycle for a 3rd time, what would you recommend? I was thinking Tbol+Test+Primo for a total of 12 weeks but do you think that would be overkill ? (150-200 primo, 400 Test , 30-Tbol for the first 4 weeks)
Or would test only still be sufficient on cycle 3?
I feel like my non virgin receptors wouldn’t respond very well

 

[Vomiit]

I’m so happy to have found meso. 99% of forums are so full of trash, this is the holy grail of information & honest people. Last post i made i got FLAMED, at least they spoke their honest opinions and got me on a killer program.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

I appreciate the insight brother, definitely going to get evaluated. I’ve had people tell me to hop on an SSRI before, and i always just pushed it away. However, if its obvious through a post that i need one then its time to pull the trigger.

On another note, if i were to cycle for a 3rd time, what would you recommend? I was thinking Tbol+Test+Primo for a total of 12 weeks but do you think that would be overkill ? (150-200 primo, 400 Test , 30-Tbol for the first 4 weeks)
Or would test only still be sufficient on cycle 3?
I feel like my non virgin receptors wouldn’t respond very well

One step at a time. End your current blast and drop down to TRT. Is that doctor prescribed or is it DIY? You may want to see an endo, especially because of the nipple discharge.

Like @Biggerarms22 already said, that bloodwork isn’t necessarily bad. It’s pretty normal for on cycle. Why did you have bloodwork done by your doctor mid-blast?

Don’t start planning a 3rd cycle right now. Geez bud, you got all emotional and you’re freaking out then ask about 3rd cycle suggestions? See what your bloodwork looks like 12-15 weeks from now and then work on a 3rd cycle.

Not to rake you over the fire because you’re already distraught but this is why cycling is bumped back until after 26 yrs old. Your brain is still developing which accounts for most no you anxiety and hypochondriac issues (I’m sure you’re not as itchy as you now think you are after the kidney disease scare).

The non-virgin receptors is all bro-science. You actually have MORE receptors on steroids than you ever would 100% natty. So you don’t have to continually bump doses up with every future cycle. Lots of guys will run a gram of test and then have an “easier” cycle on 500 mg/wk test while still seeing good effective results.

 

[Vomiit]

One step at a time. End your current blast and drop down to TRT. Is that doctor prescribed or is it DIY? You may want to see an endo, especially because of the nipple discharge.

Like @Biggerarms22 already said, that bloodwork isn’t necessarily bad. It’s pretty normal for on cycle. Why did you have bloodwork done by your doctor mid-blast?

Don’t start planning a 3rd cycle right now. Geez bud, you got all emotional and you’re freaking out then ask about 3rd cycle suggestions? See what your bloodwork looks like 12-15 weeks from now and then work on a 3rd cycle.

Not to rake you over the fire because you’re already distraught but this is why cycling is bumped back until after 26 yrs old. Your brain is still developing which accounts for most no you anxiety and hypochondriac issues (I’m sure you’re not as itchy as you now think you are after the kidney disease scare).

The non-virgin receptors is all bro-science. You actually have MORE receptors on steroids than you ever would 100% natty. So you don’t have to continually bump doses up with every future cycle. Lots of guys will run a gram of test and then have an “easier” cycle on 500 mg/wk test while still seeing good effective results.

I did mid blast bloods to see how my body responds to AAS use. Its DIY (Doc wouldnt prescribe me anything, and he’s the only one in my insurance network in my area) . I’m definitely going to make an appointment in regards to the nipple discharge, that is still weighing on my mental.
I definitely should have waited, to begin blasting though, all i was thinking was “well im going to be on test forever anyway so fuck it”
Still itchy as FUCK, i was itching before getting my bloods. I thought it was my laundry detergent, then kidney chit, now back to laundry detergent. My gf says she changed it like a month ago and thats when slight itching began. Just got some hypo allergenic pods so hopefully i can stop losing sleep. Shits torture.
I definitely need to slow my brain the fuck down though, and take a step back from thinking about using more AAS like you said. Thanks brother.

 

[Vomiit]

One step at a time. End your current blast and drop down to TRT. Is that doctor prescribed or is it DIY? You may want to see an endo, especially because of the nipple discharge.

Like @Biggerarms22 already said, that bloodwork isn’t necessarily bad. It’s pretty normal for on cycle. Why did you have bloodwork done by your doctor mid-blast?

Don’t start planning a 3rd cycle right now. Geez bud, you got all emotional and you’re freaking out then ask about 3rd cycle suggestions? See what your bloodwork looks like 12-15 weeks from now and then work on a 3rd cycle.

Not to rake you over the fire because you’re already distraught but this is why cycling is bumped back until after 26 yrs old. Your brain is still developing which accounts for most no you anxiety and hypochondriac issues (I’m sure you’re not as itchy as you now think you are after the kidney disease scare).

The non-virgin receptors is all bro-science. You actually have MORE receptors on steroids than you ever would 100% natty. So you don’t have to continually bump doses up with every future cycle. Lots of guys will run a gram of test and then have an “easier” cycle on 500 mg/wk test while still seeing good effective results.

The non-virgin receptors is bro science? Fuck thats nice to hear. I was worried i was going to end up sacrificing some hair for gains by running other compounds (Im on fina to prevent any hair loss so test is pretty g2g)

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

The non-virgin receptors is bro science? Fuck thats nice to hear. I was worried i was going to end up sacrificing some hair for gains by running other compounds (Im on fina to prevent any hair loss so test is pretty g2g)

Yea, that’s bro-science. Guys used to say that but AAS aren’t like recreational drugs where you feed an addiction and need more and more to get that same high. There’s no tolerance. That’s why you can go on TRT and pretty much use the same dose year after year forever.

Dropping down to your TRT dose will also relieve some of the anxiety you’re feeling. 16 weeks is a long run where you’ve been hammering your body and mind. When you drop down you’ll feel noticeably better after a week or so. I know my mind races more on cycle than off.

 

[Vomiit]

Yea, that’s bro-science. Guys used to say that but AAS aren’t like recreational drugs where you feed an addiction and need more and more to get that same high. There’s no tolerance. That’s why you can go on TRT and pretty much use the same dose year after year forever.

Dropping down to your TRT dose will also relieve some of the anxiety you’re feeling. 16 weeks is a long run where you’ve been hammering your body and mind. When you drop down you’ll feel noticeably better after a week or so. I know my mind races more on cycle than off.

Fucking beautiful mate, thank you. I didnt even think about the emotional sides, as i dont get rage (except for week 4-5 when i feel it initially, could be placebo though)

I appreciate the genuine help, and time dedicated to posting. Means a lot to me.

 

[Uglyrichie]

I appreciate the insight brother, definitely going to get evaluated. I’ve had people tell me to hop on an SSRI before, and i always just pushed it away. However, if its obvious through a post that i need one then its time to pull the trigger.

On another note, if i were to cycle for a 3rd time, what would you recommend? I was thinking Tbol+Test+Primo for a total of 12 weeks but do you think that would be overkill ? (150-200 primo, 400 Test , 30-Tbol for the first 4 weeks)
Or would test only still be sufficient on cycle 3?
I feel like my non virgin receptors wouldn’t respond very well

As a person who has taken anti depressants fo years 15 plus, they are not a fix all. Just because peeps tell you don't believe them. Also don't just go to a doctor go to someone who knows what the fuck they doing or it will go like this here's some Prozac oh that ain't working well let's try wellbutrin ah shit let's add Sertraline. Unless you are fucking crazy and trust me you will know or suicidal. Wait give it awhile get your shit back to normal reevaluate. Go talk to a therapist it's actually pretty good getting shit out there and see what they say. But just don't go a shit I need anti depressants. Best I have felt in years is now and it's because I quit them and guess what most of my shit went away. Sorry for along post and going off of mental health just dnt go to a regular doc if you do

 

[cochino]

Stop everything you are doing now. (AAS). Don't inject anymore for two weeks then just go to a trt dose 100mg/week. Get bloodwork from your doctor in 3 months and see where you are.

 

[Vomiit]

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As a person who has taken anti depressants fo years 15 plus, they are not a fix all. Just because peeps tell you don't believe them. Also don't just go to a doctor go to someone who knows what the fuck they doing or it will go like this here's some Prozac oh that ain't working well let's try wellbutrin ah shit let's add Sertraline. Unless you are fucking crazy and trust me you will know or suicidal. Wait give it awhile get your shit back to normal reevaluate. Go talk to a therapist it's actually pretty good getting shit out there and see what they say. But just don't go a shit I need anti depressants. Best I have felt in years is now and it's because I quit them and guess what most of my shit went away. Sorry for along post and going off of mental health just dnt go to a regular doc if you do

I was prescribed wellbutrin a while back but never jumped on. Im worried they’ll completey change my personality but my girlfriend and the poster above make it very enticing. She is on an SSRI at the moment and says she feels wonderful

 

[Vomiit]

Stop everything you are doing now. (AAS). Don't inject anymore for two weeks then just go to a trt dose 100mg/week. Get bloodwork from your doctor in 3 months and see where you are.

Thats the plan, thank you brother

 

[Megadick3000]

Fuck an SSRI bro, thise things are horrible. I took one meant for quitting smoking and felt like comitting suicide for no real reason. My brother tried the same thing and said he felt suicidal on it and messed up. We both discontinued. SSRIs are a terrible choice. For anxiety i suggest Theanine, 100-200mg works great for me, its one of those supps i always have on hand sometimes work related matters get my brain doing endless thought cycles, tossing and turning in bed, the theanine shuts it up good. OPdoes sound like he has some anxiety issues, but i would not recommend getting into SSRIs if it can be avoided.

Vomit, try some L-theanine you can find it at most supp stores these days. I use NOW brand personally, i only take on an as needed basis but it can really help with calming your mind down.

I would avoid an SSRI except as a last resort. You start blocking serotonin reuptake your basically taking a psychedelic drug 24/7. Your gf on an SSRI, i bet her pupils are large huh? U can spot ppl on SSRIs just by their dilated pupils, looks like mine when i used to take LSD.

 

[Uglyrichie]

Wonderful or numb.