anabolic rebound possible after a steroid cycle?

[5millionbucks]

So most people know after dieting a while you get that rebound(glycogen, water, tissue gain) for the first few inital weeks going on a surplus after being a deficit for so long; whether you are natural or not(moreso if you stay enhanced.) I know that fat gain is very easy to be put on your body during PCT(happened to me) I kept bulking after coming off cycle and gained mad fat. But say you diet down while on cycle whether it is for a show, a photoshoot, or just wanting to get shredded; when you come off and do PCT, if you eat on a surplus during that time will you just get fat? Or will your body have sometype of response where it shuttles the nutrients into your muscles because you were dieting for so long?

 

[DonaldPump123]

Really depends on how lean you get, if you are stage ready then you would definitely rebound nicely even off hormones, lots of competitors do this.

 

[Sworder]

Rebound is a very specific term that you are misusing.

 

[5millionbucks]

Rebound is a very specific term that you are misusing.

How? I mean Dorian use to always talk about this when he was competing; right after a show you would gain the most amount of muscle for the year because of how your body partitions nutrients; but he was also on cycle I'm assuming majority of the year.

 

[5millionbucks]

Really depends on how lean you get, if you are stage ready then you would definitely rebound nicely even off hormones, lots of competitors do this.

Really? I mean coming off test your cortisol levels are super high; test levels are low, if you are pretty shredded or stage ready wouldn't you gain a shitton of fat and not much muscle assuming you went straight into a bulk during PCT?

 

[DonaldPump123]

Really? I mean coming off test your cortisol levels are super high; test levels are low, if you are pretty shredded or stage ready wouldn't you gain a shitton of fat and not much muscle assuming you went straight into a bulk during PCT?

No, your body is like a sponge at this point from all dieting and being at such a low body fat. After a show many will get off and make some ridiculous gains just due to the enhanced nutrient uptake from the surplus of calories with the benefit of also being able to push more weight. After a few weeks or even past a month that's when you would need to start pulling back

 

[Sworder]

After a show many will get off and make some ridiculous gains just due to the enhanced nutrient uptake from the surplus of calories with the benefit of also being able to push more weight.

You are confusing intracellular storage with "ridiculous gains."

 

[5millionbucks]

You are confusing intracellular storage with "ridiculous gains."

regardless of it being intracellular storage or gains whatever you want to call it; wouldn't your body still be primed to go more towards fat storage rather than replinished glycogen because of high cortisol levels/estro?

 

[DonaldPump123]

You are confusing intracellular storage with "ridiculous gains."

No I'm not, you're going to keep getting stronger every week for a while at least. Yes some of it is intermuscular water/glycogen etc but if you've ever competed you know what I'm talking about

 

[DonaldPump123]

regardless of it being intracellular storage or gains whatever you want to call it; wouldn't your body still be primed to go more towards fat storage rather than replinished glycogen because of high cortisol levels/estro?

You're overthinking it. If you're retarded shredded and you start eating Inna surplus again you're going make gains hormones or no hormones. But it only lasts for a while before you will rebound in the other direction if you are on PCT.

 

[Sworder]

No I'm not, you're going to keep getting stronger every week for a while at least. Yes some of it is intermuscular water/glycogen etc but if you've ever competed you know what I'm talking about

So you are explaining some sort of super phenomenon which Science has ignored? And you think that the entire world hasn't discovered this truth instead of you having a failed understanding of biochem?

If your statement were true, competing as many times as possible in a year would be advantageous because of this mystery phenomena...

Google "rebound" and use that word correctly please.

 

[DonaldPump123]

So you are explaining some sort of super phenomenon which Science has ignored? And you think that the entire world hasn't discovered this truth instead of you having a failed understanding of biochem?

If your statement were true, competing as many times as possible in a year would be advantageous because of this mystery phenomena...

Google "rebound" and use that word correctly please.

Lol okay bro think what you want. I'll keep this "phenomena" to myself then. Thanks for stopping by

 

[Sworder]

Lol okay bro think what you want. I'll keep this "phenomena" to myself then. Thanks for stopping by

Yeah please do keep that phenomena to yourself.

 

[Sworder]

How? I mean Dorian use to always talk about this when he was competing; right after a show you would gain the most amount of muscle for the year because of how your body partitions nutrients; but he was also on cycle I'm assuming majority of the year.

Rebound is this:
I start at 50, then I gain 25(75) and then I rebound and go down below my initial start down to 25.

 

[DonaldPump123]

Op listen to the "expert" he knows how to count to 75

 

[5millionbucks]

Op listen to the "expert" he knows how to count to 75

so basically you have dieted alot on anabolics and then came off with a PCT eating more cals than while you were on gear? I know peps who done this with only sarms(not very suppressive) and rebound greatly. But for some reason when u run test u basically shut down all production changing a lot of factors say high cortisol and high estro.

 

[DonaldPump123]

so basically you have dieted alot on anabolics and then came off with a PCT eating more cals than while you were on gear? I know peps who done this with only sarms(not very suppressive) and rebound greatly. But for some reason when u run test u basically shut down all production changing a lot of factors say high cortisol and high estro.

Done this before yes, and know of many other who have as well. I actually do it with no pct, but that's because I never come off long enough to justify a pct

 

[5millionbucks]

Done this before yes, and know of many other who have as well

Did you use only clomid, nolva after; or run gh/peptides along with it? Also would like to know how you adjusted your diet coming out of a cut; I know tdee changes after coming off; so was wondering bringing cals to maintenance level or a lean bulk, say 200-300 cal surplus?

 

[DonaldPump123]

Did you use only clomid, nolva after; or run gh/peptides along with it? Also would like to know how you adjusted your diet coming out of a cut; I know tdee changes after coming off; so was wondering bringing cals to maintenance level or a lean bulk, say 200-300 cal surplus?

No none of that. I would come off completely of everything, mostly because I get sick of injections after a show. Bring cals above maintenance by however much you would "lean bulk" with