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[CensoredBoardsSuck]

I dont regret having Gearline send me (free?) gear to examine & test , I paid over $90 for the Labmax test , so it was far from free , I paid for my sample . And used my phone to take pics and publish for the Meso crew to examine , wheres the crime ?

I don't know if I would characterize it as a crime but it's certainly not beneficial to anyone on Meso. The source that sends you free gear in exchange for a review will ensure the gear you get is legit and for that reason, the review will be worth NOTHING to anyone EXCEPT the source, who gets a credibility boost , and the user who gets free gear.

Reviews given for free gear are no better than sources posting their own analytical data on their products. Nobody is willing to accept that data because it's biased so why should they accept this when it's just as biased? They shouldn't.

If Flounder wants to sample strange gear , gamble his health , then give a report to the forum ,its up to him . Same with myself and same with everyone here sending money to strangers they will never meet .Someones got to test it and someones got to be the first buyer...~Ogh

That's the problem: No one is sending money, therefore, there is no buyer. Just a recipient who is now indebted to a source.

 

[Oregongearhead]

I don't know if I would characterize it as a crime but it's certainly not beneficial to anyone on Meso. The source that sends you free gear in exchange for a review will ensure the gear you get is legit and for that reason, the review will be worth NOTHING to anyone EXCEPT the source, who gets a credibility boost , and the user who gets free gear.

Reviews given for free gear are no better than sources posting their own analytical data on their products. Nobody is willing to accept that data because it's biased so why should they accept this when it's just as biased? They shouldn't.



That's the problem: No one is sending money, therefore, there is no buyer. Just a recipient who is now indebted to a source.

Theres no promise that Im going to be giving Gearline (or any source) a "creditability boost" . If my bloodtest looks bad he gets a FAIL. If it looks good he gets a thumbs-up.

Could he send me "the kind" , and send you "the bunk" ? Sure he could , like I said earlier your taking a chance with any and all transactions online. I think we can agree to disagree on this one....~Ogh

 

[Redam]

All I have to say is, there is numerous blood work done on Anabols products and LabMax has been done. Not just one site but a few I believe.But he has a good reputation. He isn't a lab, he's a reseller.

Take it for what it's worth guys! I hope all checks out with the guys "testing"

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Theres no promise that Im going to be giving Gearline (or any source) a "creditability boost" . If my bloodtest looks bad he gets a FAIL. If it looks good he gets a thumbs-up.

Could he send me "the kind" , and send you "the bunk" ? Sure he could , like I said earlier your taking a chance with any and all transactions online. I think we can agree to disagree on this one....~Ogh

This was part of my response to a PM I just received:

The bottom line is 99% of labs that show up here end up scamming. You have a high chance of getting good gear and when you do the review ALOT of people will get excited and buy based on your reputation. It just gives the scam a big kickstart..

IMO a lab/reseller should have to prove themselves on a PAID board before coming here, most won't do that because they're in it for the quick buck.

If a lab plans on doing this for a while they know testing/reviews will come in time..

 

[Redam]

This was part of my response to a PM I just received:

IMO a lab/reseller should have to prove themselves on a PAID board before coming here, most won't do that because they're in it for the quick buck.

I agree. But, if the lab or reseller has tons of positive reviews on other boards, what's the point of the paid source board.

I mean, he's been on a board I'm on for a year now and there is no complaints.

But, from what your message said, the labs/resellers would have to be on paid boards to be considered legit?

That doesn't make sense because those paid boards clearly erase all the bad feedback and only show the good... Right?

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

I agree. But, if the lab or reseller has tons of positive reviews on other boards, what's the point of the paid source board.

I mean, he's been on a board I'm on for a year now and there is no complaints.

But, from what your message said, the labs/resellers would have to be on paid boards to be considered legit?

That doesn't make sense because those paid boards clearly erase all the bad feedback and only show the good... Right?

My post wasn't totally directed at this situation but taking samples in general as that is what's being discussed..

If they can actually afford sponsor fees at least it shows they're not totally broke and have something invested.

 

[Redam]

My post wasn't totally directed at this situation but taking samples in general as that is what's being discussed..

If they can actually afford sponsor fees at least it shows they're not totally broke and have something invested.

All in all, I completely agree with your last part.

 

[Mr.Bravo]

The main reason I have a problem with this situation(not the brothers) is the fact the the transaction isnt anonymous, they know who they are sending the gear to. If they plan on turning and burning it gives the scammer more time to steal based on a brother in good standings review. I know that all labs have problems but scammers are something we as a brotherhood can keep to a minimum. Thats all
sincerely Mr.Bravo

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

I just read this thread.. This guy hasn't even bothered to address the SCoC even after it was brought to his attention!!

 

[Mr.Bravo]

I just read this thread.. This guy hasn't even bothered to address the SCoC even after it was brought to his attention!!

Hes a reseller brother we need to adjust the scoc, to many resellers coming here these days it seems.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Hes a reseller brother we need to adjust the scoc, to many resellers coming here these days it seems.

Agreed, there are still plenty of items for a reseller to address though.. IMO it's beyond rude that he hasn't after it was mentioned to him. Maybe he just doesn't give a shit? Great attitude for a source to have.

 

[Flounder]

Damn this blew up. I like it. Strong opinions both ways. My point is I have grown tired of watching these domestic ugl's just come in here and treat members like shit. This includes the charming Astro, Mikestrong, Spetz, ALP, etc... Fortunately for me, I have steered clear of any of these ugl's of late. But I have experience with MFL and I know what it feels like to get scammed. It fucking sucks. Do I have all the answers? Hell no. But I am willing to risk my cycle, my body, my time and energy to test a source.
Someone should be the first to step up and give them a try. And you all know I will be brutally honest about the gear and what I think of it, good or bad. I don't sugarcoat anything. Of course lab work will be done to verify if it's good, bad or bunk. Some of you may accept what I am saying and some may not, and I am cool with that. But like OGH said, we can agree to disagree.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

But I am willing to risk my cycle, my body, my time and energy to test a source.

And your name if/when the source goes bad.

Someone should be the first to step up and give them a try.

Why should they? We don't owe these sources anything, least of all an opportunity to build a name at Meso.

If a trial is to be done, it should only be done with gear that was purchased anonymously. That's the only way the review can have any credibility. What you and OGH are doing is a farce.

And you all know I will be brutally honest about the gear and what I think of it, good or bad. I don't sugarcoat anything. Of course lab work will be done to verify if it's good, bad or bunk. Some of you may accept what I am saying and some may not, and I am cool with that. But like OGH said, we can agree to disagree.

Your honesty is not what's in question. And it's not a question of agreeing to disagree because there's nothing to disagree with. The fact that reviews given in exchange for free gear are worthless cannot be denied any more than the fact that a source's mass specs on gear THEY sent to the lab are worthless.

You receiving good gear for this review is practically a certainty. Do you really believe a source would send gear under these circumstances without knowing if it was legit? Of course not, only a fool would do that. These kind of reviews only serve you and the source but they are a disservice to Meso.

 

[Marcus]

Damn this blew up. I like it. Strong opinions both ways. My point is I have grown tired of watching these domestic ugl's just come in here and treat members like shit. This includes the charming Astro, Mikestrong, Spetz, ALP, etc... Fortunately for me, I have steered clear of any of these ugl's of late. But I have experience with MFL and I know what it feels like to get scammed. It fucking sucks. Do I have all the answers? Hell no. But I am willing to risk my cycle, my body, my time and energy to test a source.
Someone should be the first to step up and give them a try. And you all know I will be brutally honest about the gear and what I think of it, good or bad. I don't sugarcoat anything. Of course lab work will be done to verify if it's good, bad or bunk. Some of you may accept what I am saying and some may not, and I am cool with that. But like OGH said, we can agree to disagree.

If you and jymis wanted to step up and test the gear for the good of Meso and to find a source worthy of everyone's time here, then why not placing an order anonymously? This and only this would be the measure of the source's gear. What you are doing is trying to rationalize (to us and yourselves it sounds like) receiving free gear from a source.

You want free gear? Fine, I don't give a shit... But you can't say it's for the good of Meso or you would've placed that order anonymously, paid for the gear, ran a cycle and paid for all the testing and bloodwork yourself. Maybe after negotiated some kind of reimbursement for testing, but only after your gear had been received without his knowledge of who you are or what you were going to do with it.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

What you are doing is trying to rationalize (to us and yourselves it sounds like) receiving free gear from a source.

Spot on.

 

[anabolshoporg]

If you and jymis wanted to step up and test the gear for the good of Meso and to find a source worthy of everyone's time here, then why not placing an order anonymously? This and only this would be the measure of the source's gear. What you are doing is trying to rationalize (to us and yourselves it sounds like) receiving free gear from a source.

You want free gear? Fine, I don't give a shit... But you can't say it's for the good of Meso or you would've placed that order anonymously, paid for the gear, ran a cycle and paid for all the testing and bloodwork yourself. Maybe after negotiated some kind of reimbursement for testing, but only after your gear had been received without his knowledge of who you are or what you were going to do with it.

Believe me or not but I was not selecting what gear to send to this guys. Why?
Because I'm not making Vermodje or Balkan Pharmaceuticals. I just get gear from these two factories and sell it. Note: this is not an UGL lab so I can't produce good or bad gear, selecting which gear to send.
These two guys where processed like ordinary orders, simply they didn't pay for it. I understand that the situation when someone receives free gear looks like he has to give a good review. Is there any other way to show you my products? I would be glad if someone makes a simple order anonymously and tests us, this would be perfect for us, because I know I'm selling brand Vermodje, not a fake one.

 

[anabolshoporg]

About the SCoC. I can't satisfy it. I can't just go to Vermodje or Balkan Pharmaceuticals and begin taking photos there, I will be never allowed to do that.
All other requirements it seems like I can match.

 

[pmac928]

Ok so then spell them out.

 

[anabolshoporg]

where shall I go and post he info?

 

[Johnson513]

where shall I go and post he info?

Right here...
Copy the SCoC and answer question by question...