Then you go on to say #3 however they do not cut more than anything else it's just the appearance of losing more fat
Which is wrong....
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Then you go on to say #3 however they do not cut more than anything else it's just the appearance of losing more fat
Which is wrong....
No, you weren't. Your language was clear - you were referring to lipolysis.
You worded your take-back funny. Your original claim was clear as a bell.
People often word things funny when they've been proven wrong and they're trying to save face. But I agree, you are a fucking moron.
Definitely not you, that's for sure.
Sworder
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The biggest idiots came.
Yes DocD, the "dry" effect actually is fat going away right?... It's not just subq water being removed and then after you are done with the winny it never comes back...
I haven't taken anything back, I explained what I mean; even if you want to make it seem like I stated something I didn't that's fine because that is right as well.
Yes DocD, the "dry" effect actually is fat going away right?... It's not just subq water being removed and then after you are done with the winny it never comes back...
I haven't taken anything back, I explained what I mean; even if you want to make it seem like I stated something I didn't that's fine because that is right as well.
The study talks about reducing fat from steroids or as you put it "fat goes away" lol. Keep covering and I'll keep poking.
Sworder
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Your study doesn't say shit to an educated eye. Lol doses would be helpful!
In your rectum but that's beside the point.
More backtracking. You specifically stated lipolysis. There's no getting out of this one, Sworder.
Oh, you explained what you meant alright: LIPOLYSIS.
No one has to make it "seem like [you] stated something [you] didn't" because you're on the record. I bet you wish someone was deleting your posts now. LMFAO
How would YOU know? LMFAO
Sworder
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CBS what are you even talking about? I don't think you caught up on the "discussion."
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Hey, you know what didn't happen to me today? I didn't have cum drip out my ass. You know why? Because I don't let dudes fuck me in it.
Sworder
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Good for you!
I know what you did have in you today however!!!
I know what you did have in you today however!!!
var doe snot burn fat it preserves muscle while cutting. If you are looking to lose fat look in to clen and t3. or just do a eca stack
Sworder
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Sworder
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There are tons of research to support that anavar increases ketogenesis. Ketogenesis is when the body breaks down fat and turns it into energy AKA fat burning. You are smart, what did CBS do to you?:S
Oxandrolone Enhances Hepatic Ketogenesis in Adult Men
http://journals.lww.com/jinvestigat..._Enhances_Hepatic_Ketogenesis_in_Adult.7.aspx
Abstract
Background: Immediate administration of oxandrolone markedly increases hepatic lipase activity and reduces levels of plasma high-density lipoprotein.
Rationale for the study: We postulated that oxandrolone should increase hepatic lipase and that the nonesterified fatty acids generated would enhance hepatic ketogenesis during an extended fat tolerance test.
Main Results: Eighteen men participated in the study using short-term administration of oxandrolone (10 mg/d) over a week. Subjects had evaluation of hepatic ketogenesis at baseline and after 7 days of administration of oxandrolone. Ketogenesis was assessed by measuring plasma levels of 3-hydroxybutyrate during a fat tolerancetest. Oxandrolone increased fasting levels of 3-hydroxybutyrate by 70%, and increased the area under the curve during an FFT by 53% above pretreatment levels without affecting the areas under the curve for nonesterified fatty acids, glycerol, or triglycerides. Fasting 3-hydroxybutyrate levels correlated with nonesterified fatty acids and with triglycerides; however, there were no significant correlations with any other parameter.
Conclusions: This study shows that short-term administration of oxandrolone results in marked increases in hepatic ketogenesis. This finding is consistent with an increased influx of fatty acids into the liver secondary to lipoprotein lipolysis by increased hepatic lipase. However, the possibility cannot be ruled out that oxandrolone acts directly in the liver to stimulate fatty acid oxidation. Therefore, the observation of increased ketogenesis will require further studies to determine the molecular basis of the response.
Oxandrolone Enhances Hepatic Ketogenesis in Adult Men
http://journals.lww.com/jinvestigat..._Enhances_Hepatic_Ketogenesis_in_Adult.7.aspx
Abstract
Background: Immediate administration of oxandrolone markedly increases hepatic lipase activity and reduces levels of plasma high-density lipoprotein.
Rationale for the study: We postulated that oxandrolone should increase hepatic lipase and that the nonesterified fatty acids generated would enhance hepatic ketogenesis during an extended fat tolerance test.
Main Results: Eighteen men participated in the study using short-term administration of oxandrolone (10 mg/d) over a week. Subjects had evaluation of hepatic ketogenesis at baseline and after 7 days of administration of oxandrolone. Ketogenesis was assessed by measuring plasma levels of 3-hydroxybutyrate during a fat tolerancetest. Oxandrolone increased fasting levels of 3-hydroxybutyrate by 70%, and increased the area under the curve during an FFT by 53% above pretreatment levels without affecting the areas under the curve for nonesterified fatty acids, glycerol, or triglycerides. Fasting 3-hydroxybutyrate levels correlated with nonesterified fatty acids and with triglycerides; however, there were no significant correlations with any other parameter.
Conclusions: This study shows that short-term administration of oxandrolone results in marked increases in hepatic ketogenesis. This finding is consistent with an increased influx of fatty acids into the liver secondary to lipoprotein lipolysis by increased hepatic lipase. However, the possibility cannot be ruled out that oxandrolone acts directly in the liver to stimulate fatty acid oxidation. Therefore, the observation of increased ketogenesis will require further studies to determine the molecular basis of the response.
AIDS. 1996 Dec;10(14):1657-62.
Oxandrolone in AIDS-wasting myopathy.
Berger JR1, Pall L, Hall CD, Simpson DM, Berry PS, Dudley R.
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OBJECTIVE:
To evaluate oxandrolone, an oral anabolic steroid with potent anabolic activity and minimal androgenic effects, for the treatment of AIDS-associated myopathy and wasting.
METHODS:
In a multicenter, double-blind study, 63 HIV-seropositive men with > 10% loss of body weight were randomized to receive either placebo, 5 mg/day oxandrolone, or 15 mg/day oxandrolone for 16 weeks. Body weight, neuromuscular evaluation, and measures of well-being were repeatedly assessed.
RESULTS:
Patients who received 15 mg/day oxandrolone showed weight gain throughout the 16-week treatment period. Overall, the 5 mg/day oxandrolone group maintained their weight gain over the 16-week period, whereas the placebo group showed continual weight loss. At week 16, significantly more patients in the 15 mg/day dose group reported increases in appetite and activity than those receiving placebo. There were no consistent, dose-related, statistically significant differences from baseline in laboratory values or adverse events.
CONCLUSION:
Oxandrolone, at a dose of either 5 mg/day or 15 mg/day, in contrast to placebo, had a positive impact on the weight and well-being of HIV-seropositive patients suffering from wasting and weakness. Measurable improvement in muscle strength was not noted at the doses employed in this study. Oxandrolone was well tolerated in all the patients who were enrolled in the study. Based on the results reported here, additional studies using higher doses of oxandrolone seem warranted.
PMID:
8970686
[PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
Oxandrolone in AIDS-wasting myopathy.
Berger JR1, Pall L, Hall CD, Simpson DM, Berry PS, Dudley R.
Author information
- 1Department of Neurology, University of Miami School of Medicine, Florida, USA.
OBJECTIVE:
To evaluate oxandrolone, an oral anabolic steroid with potent anabolic activity and minimal androgenic effects, for the treatment of AIDS-associated myopathy and wasting.
METHODS:
In a multicenter, double-blind study, 63 HIV-seropositive men with > 10% loss of body weight were randomized to receive either placebo, 5 mg/day oxandrolone, or 15 mg/day oxandrolone for 16 weeks. Body weight, neuromuscular evaluation, and measures of well-being were repeatedly assessed.
RESULTS:
Patients who received 15 mg/day oxandrolone showed weight gain throughout the 16-week treatment period. Overall, the 5 mg/day oxandrolone group maintained their weight gain over the 16-week period, whereas the placebo group showed continual weight loss. At week 16, significantly more patients in the 15 mg/day dose group reported increases in appetite and activity than those receiving placebo. There were no consistent, dose-related, statistically significant differences from baseline in laboratory values or adverse events.
CONCLUSION:
Oxandrolone, at a dose of either 5 mg/day or 15 mg/day, in contrast to placebo, had a positive impact on the weight and well-being of HIV-seropositive patients suffering from wasting and weakness. Measurable improvement in muscle strength was not noted at the doses employed in this study. Oxandrolone was well tolerated in all the patients who were enrolled in the study. Based on the results reported here, additional studies using higher doses of oxandrolone seem warranted.
PMID:
8970686
[PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
Sworder
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"At week 16, significantly more patients in the 15 mg/day dose group reported increases in appetite"
Like I said in my first post, burning fat will largely depend on diet!
Do you feel there is sufficient evidence from your study to state that anavar will only gain weight and cannot be used to enhance fat-burning during a calorie deficiency?
Like I said in my first post, burning fat will largely depend on diet!
Do you feel there is sufficient evidence from your study to state that anavar will only gain weight and cannot be used to enhance fat-burning during a calorie deficiency?
I understand what you are saying. There is a huge misunderstanding about var do to must women use this for cutting during calorie deffeciant. Thinking it is var this is were the var makes me loose weight theory comes from. All var is doing is helping is protecting from muscular waste. There for preserving lean muscle. Think for a second why would they give this to aids patience? Aids patience do not need to lose weight! I was answering the original question. And there are far more better thing out there to lose fat. And if there is a small properties in var for losing weight it is very minutiae.
Sworder
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I didn't say that anavar does not preserve muscle it does! I agree with you, the thing I am not agreeing with you is to say it doesn't help fat-loss. And I agree again it's not very helpful like many think it is. They think "pop a pill and fat will burn" it's over 90% diet and exercise when it comes to fat burning. AAS is a weak fat burner, honestly I don't think any fat-burners are worth taking as their effect is trivial compared to diet and exercise. All AAS maintain muscle a certain extent, DHT is metabolized quickly in the muscle so it is very bad at maintaining muscle, other than that they all promote a muscle retaining effect.
Agreed
