Anavar only cycle - 1st cycle of AAS - Comments and suggestions

[Crowe]

Hello all,

Ive been working out since I was 16 now iam 22, Intensively for the last 2 years.

I was 160 lbs last summer, I have cut down to 145 lbs and can push more weight to when I was 160 lbs.

I have chosen to do Anavar only cycle because I feel it will be a light cycle and im not looking for a giant increase in size, im looking for lean muscle gains and a "ripped" look. People might say i cant get these results without the use of AAS and concentrate on my diet and training. My diet is good, 5-6 meals a day, lots of protein, complex carbs, shakes, ect. I feel I have finally "plateaued" from what my genetics will allow. I have done months of research on Anavar and feel I have a great understanding of what to expect from this drug.

Stats: 5'7" - 145 lbs - working out for last 6 years - Bench 85 lb DB 3x8 (185 Bar 3x8) - Squat 200 lb (legs are weakest) - 22 Years old.

Cycle - Anavar UG Lab - 40mgs ED for 7 weeks (20mgs in am 20mgs before workout in the pm)

I will start my cycle on April 5th, 2010. Todays Date March 24, 2010

If I have left any thing out please feel free to notify me. ALSO I know everyone will say run TEST with this cycle, I will not take TEST for this cycle and feel I will only do Anavar only... So please re-frame yourself to questioning why I don't run test with it.

Thanks.

 

[Stretch]

Hello all,

Ive been working out since I was 16 now iam 22, Intensively for the last 2 years.

I was 160 lbs last summer, I have cut down to 145 lbs and can push more weight to when I was 160 lbs.

I have chosen to do Anavar only cycle because I feel it will be a light cycle and im not looking for a giant increase in size, im looking for lean muscle gains and a "ripped" look. People might say i cant get these results without the use of AAS and concentrate on my diet and training. My diet is good, 5-6 meals a day, lots of protein, complex carbs, shakes, ect. I feel I have finally "plateaued" from what my genetics will allow. I have done months of research on Anavar and feel I have a great understanding of what to expect from this drug.

Stats: 5'7" - 145 lbs - working out for last 6 years - Bench 85 lb DB 3x8 (185 Bar 3x8) - Squat 200 lb (legs are weakest) - 22 Years old.

Cycle - Anavar UG Lab - 40mgs ED for 7 weeks (20mgs in am 20mgs before workout in the pm)

I will start my cycle on April 5th, 2010. Todays Date March 24, 2010

If I have left any thing out please feel free to notify me. ALSO I know everyone will say run TEST with this cycle, I will not take TEST for this cycle and feel I will only do Anavar only... So please re-frame yourself to questioning why I don't run test with it.

Thanks.

Well, since you don't want diet or training advice. And since you don't want anyone to question your reasons for being a moron and not running test. And since you've obviously already decided to run the cycle you have laid out regardless of what we say. (you're starting in less than 2 weeks so I assume you already have gear on hand)

Here's my advice. Run the anavar cycle don't worry about PCT it's over-rated. I would expect you to put on 30+ lbs of lean mass, plus that anavar is really gonna burn the fat for ya, which will be nice cause you won't have to do cardio at all!! Overall if I was you I would expect to drop at least 5% of your total BF. Everything you have laid out looks PERFECT

 

[TrainHard]

Personally Crowe, I don't think you should even mess around with steroids yet, I was at your point and age before too, but its called hard work and dedication, all of which I did till I was in my later 20's when I finally hit that mark and did my first cycle.

The key you have not understood yet is steroids and their effect on the human body, esp at your age. But of course you are young and KNOW everything about EVERYTHING, so therefore why waste anyones time in here??

Did you post this crap because you are scared and having second thoughts??? I'd be if I were you, you're gonna drop your natural test production to nothing, while the testes are still developing, then with your damaged testes you'll produce hopefully half of the amount of test you previously had. But of course I bet you were smart enough to get blood work done before this cycle??

Answer this question, you're not going to use test, so what is going to happen to your own test production while on cycle????

Hello all,

Ive been working out since I was 16 now iam 22, Intensively for the last 2 years.

I was 160 lbs last summer, I have cut down to 145 lbs and can push more weight to when I was 160 lbs.

I have chosen to do Anavar only cycle because I feel it will be a light cycle and im not looking for a giant increase in size, im looking for lean muscle gains and a "ripped" look. People might say i cant get these results without the use of AAS and concentrate on my diet and training. My diet is good, 5-6 meals a day, lots of protein, complex carbs, shakes, ect. I feel I have finally "plateaued" from what my genetics will allow. I have done months of research on Anavar and feel I have a great understanding of what to expect from this drug.

Stats: 5'7" - 145 lbs - working out for last 6 years - Bench 85 lb DB 3x8 (185 Bar 3x8) - Squat 200 lb (legs are weakest) - 22 Years old.

Cycle - Anavar UG Lab - 40mgs ED for 7 weeks (20mgs in am 20mgs before workout in the pm)

I will start my cycle on April 5th, 2010. Todays Date March 24, 2010

If I have left any thing out please feel free to notify me. ALSO I know everyone will say run TEST with this cycle, I will not take TEST for this cycle and feel I will only do Anavar only... So please re-frame yourself to questioning why I don't run test with it.

Thanks.

Well, since you don't want diet or training advice. And since you don't want anyone to question your reasons for being a moron and not running test. And since you've obviously already decided to run the cycle you have laid out regardless of what we say. (you're starting in less than 2 weeks so I assume you already have gear on hand)

Here's my advice. Run the anavar cycle don't worry about PCT it's over-rated. I would expect you to put on 30+ lbs of lean mass, plus that anavar is really gonna burn the fat for ya, which will be nice cause you won't have to do cardio at all!! Overall if I was you I would expect to drop at least 5% of your total BF. Everything you have laid out looks PERFECT

You wrote that well stretch, lets see if he catches on???

 

[Crowe]

Well, since you don't want diet or training advice. And since you don't want anyone to question your reasons for being a moron and not running test. And since you've obviously already decided to run the cycle you have laid out regardless of what we say. (you're starting in less than 2 weeks so I assume you already have gear on hand)

Here's my advice. Run the anavar cycle don't worry about PCT it's over-rated. I would expect you to put on 30+ lbs of lean mass, plus that anavar is really gonna burn the fat for ya, which will be nice cause you won't have to do cardio at all!! Overall if I was you I would expect to drop at least 5% of your total BF. Everything you have laid out looks PERFECT

Your reply is greatly appreciated, I'm sorry if I implied that I did not want any training and diet advice. I am completely open to any suggestions on how i should alter my training or diet so i can gain the most results from this cycle.

I only put that blurb in about the Test because tons of people are always suggesting test to go along with Var. I believe it is the correct thing to do as well (adding test). BUT for my first cycle i would like to keep it simple and not stack 2 compounds.

As for the gains that i should be seeing... You said 30 lbs, I have read a lot of places that say you are lucky to gain 10-15lbs off Var only. I chose Anavar because I would not gain much weight and my goals are for aesthetics and strength increase... BUT believe me I would not mind one bit increasing 30 lbs from where iam right now as long as its LBM and no water bloat that id be able to maintain post cycle.

Over the winter months I have been carefully watching my diet to insure that I would loose as much BF as possible before using Anavar. Now that iam going to be cycling it, should i be doing cardio like i usually do?... Should i increase my calorie intake?...

Im glad that you as well agree that a PCT is overrated. I have read many places that say PCT is mandatory for any AAS cycle. I know it wouldn't hurt to run one, i know that Anavar will shut me down to an extent and it will obviously vary from person to person. I also know that Anavar will not convert to Estrogen so gyno should not be an issue.

As for having the Anavar on hand, you are correct. 200-10mg. April 5th (the day i start my cycle) feels as if i was 4 years old again and Christmas is right around the corner... I cant wait!!!!!

Any other comments or suggestion please feel free....

Thanks.

 

[Stretch]

your reply is greatly appreciated, i'm sorry if i implied that i did not want any training and diet advice. I am completely open to any suggestions on how i should alter my training or diet so i can gain the most results from this cycle.

I only put that blurb in about the test because tons of people are always suggesting test to go along with var. I believe it is the correct thing to do as well (adding test). But for my first cycle i would like to keep it simple and not stack 2 compounds.

As for the gains that i should be seeing... You said 30 lbs, i have read a lot of places that say you are lucky to gain 10-15lbs off var only. I chose anavar because i would not gain much weight and my goals are for aesthetics and strength increase... But believe me i would not mind one bit increasing 30 lbs from where iam right now as long as its lbm and no water bloat that id be able to maintain post cycle.

Over the winter months i have been carefully watching my diet to insure that i would loose as much bf as possible before using anavar. Now that iam going to be cycling it, should i be doing cardio like i usually do?... Should i increase my calorie intake?...

im glad that you as well agree that a pct is overrated. I have read many places that say pct is mandatory for any aas cycle. I know it wouldn't hurt to run one, i know that anavar will shut me down to an extent and it will obviously vary from person to person. I also know that anavar will not convert to estrogen so gyno should not be an issue.

as for having the anavar on hand, you are correct. 200-10mg. April 5th (the day i start my cycle) feels as if i was 4 years old again and christmas is right around the corner... I cant wait!!!!!:d:d:d:d:d:d

any other comments or suggestion please feel free....

Thanks.

omg!!!!!!

He's hopeless trainhard hopeless!!!!

 

[Stretch]

My whole post was sarcasm NOOB

You're gonna F urself up...

If you have questions and you're willing to listen to advice then go ahead and ask. I will answer you. Otherwise just go run you're damn cycle.

 

[Crowe]

My whole post was sarcasm NOOB

You're gonna F urself up...

If you have questions and you're willing to listen to advice then go ahead and ask. I will answer you. Otherwise just go run you're damn cycle.

I never once said that i was open to any suggestions! I believe I put it at the end of every post.

 

[TrainHard]

LOL, I did not want to say to much about your post to see if he was smart enough to catch on, LOL obviously not!!!

Crowe, you are the type of superficial individual that uses steroids and fucks yourself up, then cries wolf and makes all the responsible people look like shit.

You have no idea what you are doing, and stretch is right, you are hopeless.

You want good solid honest advice, scrap the roids and wait till you're older.

omg!!!!!!

He's hopeless trainhard hopeless!!!!

My whole post was sarcasm NOOB

You're gonna F urself up...

If you have questions and you're willing to listen to advice then go ahead and ask. I will answer you. Otherwise just go run you're damn cycle.

 

[Stretch]

Sorry bro, I just thought for sure you knew enough to know that I wouldn't be serious about saying that PCT is over-rated, that just really threw me for a loop.

It's ridiculous/scary how many kids get on here and are ready to run some gear and have ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKING IDEA WHAT THEY"RE DOING!!!!

Run test alone for your first cycle. If you don't wanna listen to that, then just do whatever you wanna do. I'm not gonna waste my time/energy. If you don't wanna waste the anavar add it to a test cycle. If you won't do this, then stop asking for advice.


You're like someone going to a mechanic and saying hey my car isn't working. He tells you to put gas in it. You say, I don't wanna put gas in it, can I use water instead??....

HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO ADVISE SOMEBODY LIKE THAT!!!!!!!!

 

[Sgt.Jarhead]

Your stats are enough for me to say, don't do steroids, try hmmmmm...... creatine/protein

If you are not ready to pin, your not ready to use AAS.

 

[Stretch]

For the record I agree with this guy^^^^

My advice to run Test is based on the assumption that you won't listen to us and wait to use AAS.

 

[Crowe]

Sorry bro, I just thought for sure you knew enough to know that I wouldn't be serious about saying that PCT is over-rated, that just really threw me for a loop.

It's ridiculous/scary how many kids get on here and are ready to run some gear and have ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKING IDEA WHAT THEY"RE DOING!!!!

Run test alone for your first cycle. If you don't wanna listen to that, then just do whatever you wanna do. I'm not gonna waste my time/energy. If you don't wanna waste the anavar add it to a test cycle. If you won't do this, then stop asking for advice.


You're like someone going to a mechanic and saying hey my car isn't working. He tells you to put gas in it. You say, I don't wanna put gas in it, can I use water instead??....

HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO ADVISE SOMEBODY LIKE THAT!!!!!!!!

Well to be completely honest I read a book on steroids. Anabolics 2009, I didnt read every single steroid profile. I read that a PCT wasn't considered necessary, as of right now i cant quote it because iam at work... But obviously you are contradicting that and im sure many people will as well...

So I should scrap the Var and run a low test cycle?

 

[TrainHard]

Well to be completely honest I read a book on steroids. Anabolics 2009, I didnt read every single steroid profile. I read that a PCT wasn't considered necessary, as of right now i cant quote it because iam at work... But obviously you are contradicting that and im sure many people will as well...

So I should scrap the Var and run a low test cycle?

That would be the smarter choice, or use both start with test, then run test with var for the last 5 wks??

When you talk low dose test its somewhere between 300-500mgs/wk

The question still remains, why do you want to use roids??? Your stats are low, and you can get so much naturally with your God given potential.
And Yes PCT is always necessary if you want to keep your gains and not feel like shit.

 

[Stretch]

YES finally you're using your head.

Ideally you would wait to use AAS entirely, but you say you believe you are at your physiological peak, therefore I will try to deal with you under the assumption that this is true. (since the odds of my convincing you otherwise is slim to none)

You could still use the var for the last couple weeks of your test cycle. This will allow you to see how your body reacts to the test alone at the beginning, then you could add the var later.

Let's start with a question are you leary about injecting?

If not I would say run Test Prop, this way if you have any problems you can stop and the test will clear your system quickly. If you run prop then run 150mg EOD

If you would like a less frequent injection schedule then run test Cyp or Enanthate. 500mg/wk

Because you haven't damaged your body with any previous cycles, and because you're young and healthy PCT could be something as simple as

Nolva--20/20/10/10/10

You will be much happier with a cycle like this. Much better gains. And much better chance at keeping what is gained.

 

[Crowe]

That would be the smarter choice, or use both start with test, then run test with var for the last 5 wks??

When you talk low dose test its somewhere between 300-500mgs/wk

And Yes PCT is always necessary if you want to keep your gains and not feel like shit.

Alright, I haven't looked into Test so I would have to do a bunch of research before I even think about it....

Ill have all you know that iam very cautious to what goes into my body... I thought that Anavar was one of the safest AAS on the market from what I researched and was convinced it would be a good starter cycle. I have red many other post amongst BB websites on Var only cycles and thought that the gains people made and kept were exactly what i wanted.

Ive tryed protein, creatine, NO products ect. I dont want to be BIG... I have a small frame and would like to only gain 10 lbs but still have a nice 6 pack.

 

[Crowe]

YES finally you're using your head.

Ideally you would wait to use AAS entirely, but you say you believe you are at your physiological peak, therefore I will try to deal with you under the assumption that this is true. (since the odds of my convincing you otherwise is slim to none)

You could still use the var for the last couple weeks of your test cycle. This will allow you to see how your body reacts to the test alone at the beginning, then you could add the var later.

Let's start with a question are you leary about injecting?

If not I would say run Test Prop, this way if you have any problems you can stop and the test will clear your system quickly. If you run prop then run 150mg EOD

If you would like a less frequent injection schedule then run test Cyp or Enanthate. 500mg/wk

Because you haven't damaged your body with any previous cycles, and because you're young and healthy PCT could be something as simple as

Nolva--20/20/10/10/10

You will be much happier with a cycle like this. Much better gains. And much better chance at keeping what is gained.

Thank you for your input.... No, not one bit worried about an injection.

What age do you recommend me starting AAS?

Why does everyone perceive that Anavar is the safest and mildest AAS around?

My Var is good until 2013 so im not that worried.

 

[Stretch]

It DOES have very limited side effects. But also yields very limited results when used by itself. Steroids are the ICING on a good build. Var CAN BE the ICING on a good stack.

 

[TrainHard]

Here read this
Oxandrolone (Anavar) Profile

And this
Testosterone Cypionate (Depo-Testosterone) Profile

And for what you posted, it is so easy to do naturally what you want your goals to be. You're 145 cut, and you want to be 155 cut, there isn't a difference other than a number on a scale, you can do that naturally.

As far as var being one of the safest roids, I disagree, it goes through the liver, and is toxic, testosterone is the safest in my opinion. I'd wait to cycle till your around 25 or older.

Alright, I haven't looked into Test so I would have to do a bunch of research before I even think about it....

Ill have all you know that iam very cautious to what goes into my body... I thought that Anavar was one of the safest AAS on the market from what I researched and was convinced it would be a good starter cycle. I have red many other post amongst BB websites on Var only cycles and thought that the gains people made and kept were exactly what i wanted.

Ive tryed protein, creatine, NO products ect. I dont want to be BIG... I have a small frame and would like to only gain 10 lbs but still have a nice 6 pack.

 

[Crowe]

That would be the smarter choice, or use both start with test, then run test with var for the last 5 wks??

When you talk low dose test its somewhere between 300-500mgs/wk

The question still remains, why do you want to use roids??? Your stats are low, and you can get so much naturally with your God given potential.
And Yes PCT is always necessary if you want to keep your gains and not feel like shit.

Why do i want to use steroids: (Anavar in general)

I work out 5-6 days a week, pushing weight 5 out of those days and cardio 1 day.

I have tried to increase my calorie intake so i can gain that 10 lbs of lean mass, when i do that i tend to store more fat, EVEN though they are clean calories, sufficient protein 1.5-2 gams/lb and im doing plenty of cardio to burn that fat.

I believe that the extra protein synthesis of Anavar will help me increase my mass while staying lean.

I chose Anavar as the steroid because - Low side effects, Im not going to put on a bunch of weight, Anavar's results were exactly what I was looking for ---- Lean mass gains, No water bloat, creates a dense muscular tone.

Main reason for choosing Anavar was that it has the least amount of side affects and SEEMED to be the safest.

 

[Stretch]

Well, I don't wanna "tell you your business" however, as long as you are from this planet.....you ARE from this planet right??

And if I cut you...you would bleed red blood??

Okay, now that we're on the same page.

Calories IN Calories OUT...it really IS just that simple. If you eat more and store more fat, then you're not doing enough training, or not training properly. If your body is readily storing fat, then it WILL readily store muscle. You just have to know what to do to make the body do what YOU want it to do.

This is part of the learning curve that we talk about when we say noobs should wait to use AAS, you need to figure out your body NATURALLY rather than turning to some "miracle" pill that will allow you to circumvent the laws that govern human physiology.

You have NOT reached your physiological limit. You have reached the a limit that is set by your inexperience. This limit is being further perpetuated by your BELIEF that you are at your physiological limit. You have stopped looking at natural remedies which would include a change in training, or a change in diet. And have begun to look for the "easy way out". That is steroid abuse, not use.