Anavar-only makes you weak and gyno-prone????

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I saw this on Endocrine's post in the classifieds:

"WOW, straight anavar cycle? I was just reading last months issue of muscular development and a guy wrote in because he was taking anavar by itself, about 40 mg a day i believe of real anavar and he starting getting smaller and weaker and was developing gyno. I forget who it was but one the the magazines "chemical experts" told him that he had managed to supress his own natural testosterone production while shifting the ratio of androgen to estrogen levels in favor of estrogens. He said that anavar alone is a poor stand-alone product for males. Just be careful you dont end up in the same boat, it was recommended that if you were to take it you stack it with winni or tren."

How can this "chemical expert" be true? Even if your testes were completely shut down from the Var, wouldn't the exogenous AAS itself provide for muscle building? Also, I've never heard of anyone getting gyno while on Var, although I don't personally know anyone who has ever done a var-only cycle.

 

[scrappy]

I saw this on Endocrine's post in the classifieds:

"WOW, straight anavar cycle? I was just reading last months issue of muscular development and a guy wrote in because he was taking anavar by itself, about 40 mg a day i believe of real anavar and he starting getting smaller and weaker and was developing gyno. I forget who it was but one the the magazines "chemical experts" told him that he had managed to supress his own natural testosterone production while shifting the ratio of androgen to estrogen levels in favor of estrogens. He said that anavar alone is a poor stand-alone product for males. Just be careful you dont end up in the same boat, it was recommended that if you were to take it you stack it with winni or tren."

How can this "chemical expert" be true? Even if your testes were completely shut down from the Var, wouldn't the exogenous AAS itself provide for muscle building? Also, I've never heard of anyone getting gyno while on Var, although I don't personally know anyone who has ever done a var-only cycle.

For one I don't know if this guy is an expert but if someone actually had this happen my first guess is to say it was fake anavar and probably something else
maybe a bunch of androstenedione....
I do know some guys who've done well with var only. the goal was to gain strength and keep bodyweight the same. sprinters, fighters and other athletes who want high relative strength like anavar. Personally, I would add eq and a little test

 

[adjutant]

I'm glad you addressed this, because it was directed at my comment that I am doing a straight Var cycle @40mgs/day for three months.

I have NEVER heard anything like someone getting gyno on Var. I'm gonna go with all the anecdotal evidence I have heard and read. Anavar cycles with the correct diet will boost strength and harden you up BIG! I feel like my body type and comp. is exactly where it should be in order to get the most out of this.

Stats: 5'10" 205lbs, roughly 12%. My body responds extremely well to diet adjustments. ie. cutting up fast inside of two weeks.

Regardless........I CANT WAIT!!!

 

[juicestop]

I'm glad you addressed this, because it was directed at my comment that I am doing a straight Var cycle @40mgs/day for three months.

I have NEVER heard anything like someone getting gyno on Var. I'm gonna go with all the anecdotal evidence I have heard and read. Anavar cycles with the correct diet will boost strength and harden you up BIG! I feel like my body type and comp. is exactly where it should be in order to get the most out of this.

Stats: 5'10" 205lbs, roughly 12%. My body responds extremely well to diet adjustments. ie. cutting up fast inside of two weeks.

Regardless........I CANT WAIT!!!

found the article, it was in the march 2004 muscular development with Dexter Jackson on the cover, page 344. It is in Hany Rambod's Q & A column. He is the guru that worked with Quincy Taylor, Idrise Ward-El, Mike Dragna, and Chris Cook. He's also worked with Melvin Anthony and Troy Alves so I's say he has a pretty good reputation, but anyways good luck with the straight cycle, let me know how it goes, im a natural but I've considered anavar for my first cycle stacked with primo

 

[bigkb]

Anavar does not aromatize. So it can't cause gyno.

KB

 

[Endocrine_Supply]

Hello

I made a post about this in my thread in the clasifieds.

There is always more to the story than meets the eye. To meny variables. Was the Var tested? What was this guy taking prior to using the Var? Was he using anything else? Was someone slipping him birth control?

Like I said before I think its a good idea to and that strong androgenic component, as oxandrolone is a good anabolic but a weak andro. Winny or halo would be a good choice. Something safer would be just plain old testosterone (short ester).

One thing you have to remember is that Ox and every other steroid is going to shut down your balls. If your not taking enough to shut down your balls then your seriously wasting your time. And if your taking just barely enough to shut down your balls then your just "replacing" your natural levels and still wasting your time.

Using steroids is like dating. Hit it hard and hit it fast, then get out.

Good luck. -ES