Steroid forums - how things have changed

A lot of other issues to. Reduced IQ, specifically cognitive flexibility, increased ego, narcissism, this stupid level of extraversion and loss of ones inner world, etc. Most all people I know turn in to jackasses when on cycle and if nothing else, they at least become a bit dumber, less able to put them selfs out of their perspective and into someone's else or just any other point of view which significantly differs from theirs (cognitive flexibility), they become stubborn, ful of some stupendous dopaminergic energy (yeah let's do it, yeah!), etc. I haven't meet one person in real life or on a forum that steroids made a better person out of him. Most people who say aas don't effect them just have very poor introspection ... Ofc some get more affected then other.
It affects most people for sure. You change both physically and mentally on steroids. While TRT is beneficial in all regards, a supraphysiological levels are not productive outside of gains in mass and strength. I think that's why when you reset yourself on trt amounts or at least a cruise you start to feel better and not over stimulated. On steroids you can become obssesed too much. Most people deny and then cruise on absurd amounts while justifying themselves by watching other gurus or forum buddies do it.
 
It affects most people for sure. You change both physically and mentally on steroids. While TRT is beneficial in all regards, a supraphysiological levels are not productive outside of gains in mass and strength. I think that's why when you reset yourself on trt amounts or at least a cruise you start to feel better and not over stimulated. On steroids you can become obssesed too much. Most people deny and then cruise on absurd amounts while justifying themselves by watching other gurus or forum buddies do it.
so this is very true! ive realized that by watching people i know personally blast and cruise and watching their IQ. But honestly i seem to read more books and news articles now that im blasting. I guess because i heard about this side before and decided that I will exercise my brain in the only way possible. Yes my spelling and typing will always be shit thats just my fast test swollen fingers lmfao.
 
so this is very true! ive realized that by watching people i know personally blast and cruise and watching their IQ. But honestly i seem to read more books and news articles now that im blasting. I guess because i heard about this side before and decided that I will exercise my brain in the only way possible. Yes my spelling and typing will always be shit thats just my fast test swollen fingers lmfao.
Many people confuse intelligence(iq) with knowledge.
A person is born with intelligence! knowledge is acquired through education,training and experience.
Many gather knowledge but fail to implement it in practice because they lack intelligence.
Of course this people never understand and think they are all that but their life does never reflect it.
For example a person that is making complex math equations with chalk on the sidewalk but is homeless and eats from a garbage can.
 
Many people confuse intelligence(iq) with knowledge.
A person is born with intelligence! knowledge is acquired through education,training and experience.
Many gather knowledge but fail to implement it in practice because they lack intelligence.
Of course this people never understand and think they are all that but their life does never reflect it.
For example a person that is making complex math equations with chalk on the sidewalk but is homeless and eats from a garbage can.
i feel like you just pulled that last part from a movie or something lol.
 
I don’t know about the iq part seems not possible to me.
If anything you lose it as you become older especially if on steroids.


actually a lot of studies say you can. I wasnt basing it simply just on AAS i was saying in general but IF aas does make someone less intelligent then they should know this and try to mitigate it as much as possible.
 
Reddit partially ruined all forums. It’s a cesspool of INCEL Amazon drivers, retail cashiers and baristas who mainly try to be contrarian in whatever point is made, be it valid or not. I’ve seen random shitbirds who work at JCrew argue with PhD chemists. Their true identities are almost always phony cringe; just a series of bad actors. Not all, some are real ones, but most just become addicted to giving black and white advice in any area they can spend 5 minutes googling for a false sense of superiority that distracts them from their lazy, spoiled lifestyles. Most, unfortunately, represent the modern state of American manhood.
We need a revolution
 
A lot of other issues to. Reduced IQ, specifically cognitive flexibility, increased ego, narcissism, this stupid level of extraversion and loss of ones inner world, etc. Most all people I know turn in to jackasses when on cycle and if nothing else, they at least become a bit dumber, less able to put them selfs out of their perspective and into someone's else or just any other point of view which significantly differs from theirs (cognitive flexibility), they become stubborn, ful of some stupendous dopaminergic energy (yeah let's do it, yeah!), etc. I haven't meet one person in real life or on a forum that steroids made a better person out of him. Most people who say aas don't effect them just have very poor introspection ... Ofc some get more affected then other.
hmmm Most people i feel like that act like this were always like this. Rather they had it hidden deep inside of them or its a hidden personality they have. Just saying. Maybe im 100% wrong and if so I'd like to see actual scientific studies on it. The only thing ive realized about being on a cycle as this is my second cycle ever and will be my last. As i was always a believer in TEST only. and broke my own rule. I have noticed my ability to connect thoughts and tie my words together as fast as i usually do is not where it usually is.So because of this I WILL not be running another cycle and only will ever just do mild test and trt lvls for now on. Everything was running smooth as fuck before the primo lol. but yea my anger has always been there its not the AAS that honestly makes me angry and ppl drive like shit just piss me the fuck off. Especially the parents i see texting and driving with their fucking babies in car seats while they barrel down the interstate and cut me the fuck off. lol sorry that had to be said. And honestly ive tried to mitigate the asshole thing by trying to actually be nicer in the gym on my cycle. Ive let 1 person work in with me. And I have offered 2 times now to others lol. ( I am the guy that made the post about not letting ppl work in.) But anywho, so IDk maybe its just people want a reason to act like a dick? But me naturally being a asshole its tiresome lol. So i decided i was gonna be the opposite on cycle.
 
It is important to read very carefully the material you post.
The second part refers to kids 12-16.
Yes in young people you can do it certainly the brain becomes less elastic after 25.
Also the first part i did not go deeper as its just a reference at people working in places that they have to use they're brain and test better down the line as people who don't.
In that case it could be stoping the decline rather than increasing it from baseline.
For example and i’m just trowing numbers out there,if in 10 years you would decline by 10point and by exercising your brain you stop this or only decline by 2 points compared to people who don't exercise they're brain its a win because its more than you would have not been doing it.
Im am referring to increases from baseline that would bring a 100 iq person to a 120 level i think is impossible.
Se i like to have conversations with people that explain what they think they read in a study in they're own word rather then just post a link here you go this is the proof.
It makes it easier to get to a common ground and to find the faults in my or his thinking.
This is the abstract of the first study you posted
AE66564C-3824-4DA7-89BF-6657CF66868D.png
I wrote the first part before even viewing this abstract just based on my logic(IQ).
Hope you don’t take this in a bad way.
You can find a google article to seem like proof for anything actually but diving in it and explaining it in your words you often realize yourself that something does not add up before you post it.
 
It is important to read very carefully the material you post.
The second part refers to kids 12-16.
Yes in young people you can do it certainly the brain becomes less elastic after 25.
Also the first part i did not go deeper as its just a reference at people working in places that they have to use they're brain and test better down the line as people who don't.
In that case it could be stoping the decline rather than increasing it from baseline.
For example and i’m just trowing numbers out there,if in 10 years you would decline by 10point and by exercising your brain you stop this or only decline by 2 points compared to people who don't exercise they're brain its a win because its more than you would have not doing it.
Im am referring to increases from baseline tha would bring a 100 iq person to a 120 level i think is impossible.
Se i like to have conversations with people that explain what they think they read in a study in they're own word rather then just post a link here you go this is the proof.
It makes it easier to get to a common ground and to find the faults in my or his thinking.
This is the abstract of the first study you posted
View attachment 272847
I wrote the first part before even viewing this abstract just based on my logic(IQ).
Hope you don’t take this in a bad way.
You can find a google article to seem like proof for anything actually but diving in it and explaining it in your words you often realize yourself that something does not add up before you post it.
taking a bad way would mean i put my feelings into a factual discussion, which is all and all dumb as feelings and facts don't mix lol. But to stay on topic, I have met literally people who are sitting at iqs of 140+ and are 60-70 years old. And yet their iqs haven't dropped. imo As i have carried conversations with these individuals over the last 10 years. So the old age limits is what age? Also that old age saying cant apply to everyone. on a added not i do believe heavy aas does effect all iq and is bad news bears. lol do aas after your peaking ages.
 
Last edited:
taking a bad way would mean i put my feelings into a factual discussion, which is all and all dumb as feelings and facts don't mix lol. But to stay on topic, I have met literally people who are sitting at iqs of 140+ and are 60-70 years old. And yet their iqs haven't dropped. imo As i have carried conversations with these individuals over the last 10 years. So the old age limits is what age? Also that old age saying cant apply to everyone. on a added not i do believe heavy aas does effect all iq and is bad news bears. lol do aas after your peaking ages.
I was tested in high school at 143 re tested and did 146 plus minus couple points can’t remember.
If i am not mistaking iq tests are age specific but i have not looked in to it so might be wrong.
A 70 year old testing 150 for example could mean a couple things.
1 he was 160 when young like Elon Musk for example.
2 hi did some work or used his brain and had a lifestyle that allowed him to maintain his IQ.
3 he did lots of iq tests and analyzing them knowing the answers by memory.
4 its a genetic thing how persons decline.
If you are interested in this there are many papers and researches done and i am not knowledgable enough to dive in deeper.
38A59F38-D591-4065-92DE-E5E09C60917D.png
 
I was tested in high school at 143 re tested and did 146 plus minus couple points can’t remember.
If i am not mistaking iq tests are age specific but i have not looked in to it so might be wrong.
A 70 year old testing 150 for example could mean a couple things.
1 he was 160 when young like Elon Musk for example.
2 hi did some work or used his brain and had a lifestyle that allowed him to maintain his IQ.
3 he did lots of iq tests and analyzing them knowing the answers by memory.
4 its a genetic thing how persons decline.
If you are interested in this there are many papers and researches done and i am not knowledgable enough to dive in deeper.
View attachment 272855
i am interested actually, thanks ill probably spend my day researching this. I was reading a MIT report saying that the IQ has peaks at different ages for different things in the human body as we notice that we get better at some things worse at others and vice versa. Normal all around base peak is at age 20. And those people I know are extremely smart, and have always protected their brains and exercised them constantly same with their bodies. But the age 70 is definitely the main number i see.
 
i am interested actually, thanks ill probably spend my day researching this. I was reading a MIT report saying that the IQ has peaks at different ages for different things in the human body as we notice that we get better at some things worse at others and vice versa. Normal all around base peak is at age 20. And those people I know are extremely smart, and have always protected their brains and exercised them constantly same with their bodies. But the age 70 is definitely the main number i see.
When i grew up in a communist/post communist environment it was not rewarding to be smart in my circles.
What was rewarding was knowing to fight so i did not study rather did combat sports.
Surely mine has declined since…
 
When i grew up in a communist/post communist environment it was not rewarding to be smart in my circles.
What was rewarding was knowing to fight so i did not study rather did combat sports.
Surely mine has declined since…
i know plenty of insanely intelligent Spec ops and mercs so dont count yourself out buddy. keep the growth mindset man! we got enough shit out here kicking us down. dont let your mindset keep you down boss man!
 
i know plenty of insanely intelligent Spec ops and mercs so dont count yourself out buddy. keep the growth mindset man! we got enough shit out here kicking us down. dont let your mindset keep you down boss man!
Well I think for spec ops you need quite good IQ to pass their tests, among other things.
 
hmmm Most people i feel like that act like this were always like this. Rather they had it hidden deep inside of them or its a hidden personality they have. Just saying. Maybe im 100% wrong and if so I'd like to see actual scientific studies on it. The only thing ive realized about being on a cycle as this is my second cycle ever and will be my last. As i was always a believer in TEST only. and broke my own rule. I have noticed my ability to connect thoughts and tie my words together as fast as i usually do is not where it usually is.So because of this I WILL not be running another cycle and only will ever just do mild test and trt lvls for now on. Everything was running smooth as fuck before the primo lol. but yea my anger has always been there its not the AAS that honestly makes me angry and ppl drive like shit just piss me the fuck off. Especially the parents i see texting and driving with their fucking babies in car seats while they barrel down the interstate and cut me the fuck off. lol sorry that had to be said. And honestly ive tried to mitigate the asshole thing by trying to actually be nicer in the gym on my cycle. Ive let 1 person work in with me. And I have offered 2 times now to others lol. ( I am the guy that made the post about not letting ppl work in.) But anywho, so IDk maybe its just people want a reason to act like a dick? But me naturally being a asshole its tiresome lol. So i decided i was gonna be the opposite on cycle.
idk bro I empathize with you. The general public is absolute shit, and I abhor being forced to trust people in situations like the roads and highways. Idk if it was always like this. The US needs to be rebuilt from the ground up or I'll just keep contributing to and hoping for its inevitable demise
 
idk bro I empathize with you. The general public is absolute shit, and I abhor being forced to trust people in situations like the roads and highways. Idk if it was always like this. The US needs to be rebuilt from the ground up or I'll just keep contributing to and hoping for its inevitable demise
I don’t know man, you guys can’t even unite on one single issue and you think you can hold a revolution. It’s laughable, especially when everyone is out for their own interests in North America, we all need to learn from the europeans when it comes to revolutions.
 
I don’t know man, you guys can’t even unite on one single issue and you think you can hold a revolution. It’s laughable, especially when everyone is out for their own interests in North America, we all need to learn from the europeans when it comes to revolutions.
Nah we are fucked also.
They divided us as well the fuckers know what they are doing.
Only people i see united these days are the muslims.
At least they seem to be…
 
Back
Top