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Steroid forums - how things have changed

Controlling anger helps a lot, there is almost always a no win situation. The loudest one is always to blame in the eyes of others. I try to train myself to act only when necessary, unless someone is causing you physical harm you or your family or helpless people, there is no reason to not ignore. Most of the time it's a win to ignore.
 
DECLAN said:
Welp, is my post hostile, it was not meant for you personally. It is just my point of view on how I view forum, youtube and social media personalities big and small.

Anyway, no one gives a shit about anything we post here, in the end of the day its everyone to himself.
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Hell nah, not hostile at all! Hopefully you didn't take that as directed at you personally, I was just continuing the convo for the thread writ large.

P.S. My use of the wonderful term "cunt" is not spared for fits of anger, I use it variously qualified for different types of cunt.
 
GuerillaPete said:
Ok i get it maybe i cared to much and others may also notice things they are just not interested enough to make a fuss about it.
I should try that it must feel good less anger more zen.
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Getting back on topics track, I think this is one of the main changes on the forum; anger management and not tolerating roided up gym locker nonsense.

Being on aas pushes most people towards a particularly toxic personality, which I think comes to light the most on these anonymous forums. And I'm very pleased seeing how this is changing.
 
lukiss96 said:
Long stort short. 6 years ago, when I was researching steroids, hormones, drugs, how it all works and then of course I read lots of forums for personal experiences and all that interesting talk. I spent few months reading, then took a break and then returned in total spending almost a year educating and learning myself everything I could on paper before I started playing this game.

So, I read lots of posts from 2006-2016 and even older of various steroid talk forums including meso of course. I noticed that people where asking straightforward questions like how different should they eat and train. It was almost a prerequisite that you had put in the work for at least few years naturally and had a good muscular base and knowledge in training and nutrition.

Yes, some information is outdated by todays standards. But I noticed less beef, less flaming, less insults and all that unnecessary crap. Everyone seemed a lot more serious. The information/advice from veterans was very valued by others. Everyone had so much things to say and it was understandable and appreciated by readers, I was enjoying reading all that honestly.

Now in modern era, the 2020's we have kids left and right coming from social media or youtube and demanding us to confirm crap they heard from those influencers, if we disagree we are the bad guys and we don't know shit. It's like they multiply and it's not a one off. Every week there's new early 20's guy who thinks he's smarter than us. Soon they will all cycle estrogen instead of Testosterone because "bro estrogen is more anabolic".

Being already fit or muscular is no longer a requirement. It's okay for them to just jump the gun. Skip the natural gains, cuz it's waste of time they say.

No one even states their stats anymore, they don't even bother to google what's a decent bench press for a guy. Nothing, just a statement sort of - that he wants to cycle easy way, get huge gains and pls don't tell me shit to not do, I will do it regardless of what you all say...

We forum members with experience even bother to feed them information (that's available nowadays with just a bit of effort), they spit on it and we still comment. We make their threads popular and they burry some great threads with their childish behaviour.

Now, only a handful of guys truly come here and ask for genuine advice. Asks for some advice. He's serious and wants to do it right. But because of kids we are very wary and sometimes don't even bother to reply to people like him.

On the positive side we have improved a lot when it comes to sources, scam prevention, zero tolerance for bullshit.

I guess you can't help but miss it, how different it was back then. The atmosphere and vibe was totally different, communication was much more straightforward and people interested in drugs were not pushed to look a certain way by influencers and such.

They knew what they wanted and they came to get results. Nothing less nothing more, steroids were for serious people. Not bunch of dyel skinny twinks trying to look like at least they lift, cuz they think you can't get there naturally.

Now we have boys wanting to do tbol only cuz he's afraid of side effects that might not even be present. He wants fast gains. Says it can't be done naturally. While mentioning absolutely nothing about his experience, diet, training, lifts.

But it's not all bad, in fact it improved a lot in other ways. It is what I call a true evolution.

Meso especially came a long way and did what they could do best to unite us who are still passionate about what we do and provide us with possibly the best market for our needs, information and much, much more.

I remember @Jin23 words - it's the golden age of AAS. He's right. With such information and tools available, we indeed have it so good we sometimes forget to appreciate it.

Thanks to guys like @Millard , @Type-IIx , @PeterBond and many others who create or help to create this place what we all can call home. Their contributions are invaluable.

So, yes it's a rant in some way. But more so my observation and review over the years.

Disclaimer:
This was not meant to discriminate anyone or make them feel lesser. It was simply my observation how things have changed over a decade or two.
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Yeah i agree with this 100%. Beginners in training, not even on a diet want to get on tren. Its crazy how much steroid use has grown since the early 2000s bro soooo many guys take gear now. Some you wouldnt even know, theres this kid at my gym hes gotta be 20 or so and he wanted my opinion on his cycle and was telling me what he was on and i was fucking shocked at the amount of gear this kid was on. And bro he didnt even looked like he trained! I asked him who the fuck told you to take all of that he said the forums. Idk bro, I like this forum. Dudes on here are smart about gear and give solid advice but there are some shit forums out there with guys giving terrible advice. Im only active on this forum now. Meso is solid.
 
Jin23 said:
Getting back on topics track, I think this is one of the main changes on the forum; anger management and not tolerating roided up gym locker nonsense.

Being on aas pushes most people towards a particularly toxic personality, which I think comes to light the most on these anonymous forums. And I'm very pleased seeing how this is changing.
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I find it strange how a very small community like us could be so hostile against each other. I understand that because there is no physical repercussions to be wary of, insults are being thrown so easily.

Hopefully we as a whole will learn to live with our raging hormones and adjust accordingly.
 
DECLAN said:
Hopefully we as a whole will learn to live with our raging hormones and adjust accordingly.
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So, have any of you actually met a "raging roidhead" with raging hormones and anger issues?

Any of the people I know or have met in person that ONLY use gear tend to be pretty mellow and low key.

The dudes that I've met that are on gear but also abuse stimulants up to and including meth and cocaine tend to be a whole new level of asshole. I don't really think this has to do with the gear. Also, they tend to have other emotional/mental disorders in the mix.

At worst, the only personality/character flaw I've seen with gear users is a bit of "main character syndrome". But they're usually low key, polite, soft spoken even. Gentle giants if you will.

In personal/romantic relationships I'm sure things look different. I know I got into a lot more fights with my wife whenever I used tren in the past. But you'd never know it if I was your coworker or buddy or random dude you met - I'm usually super chill. I kinda feel like this is the norm.
 
DECLAN said:
I find it strange how a very small community like us could be so hostile against each other. I understand that because there is no physical repercussions to be wary of, insults are being thrown so easily.

Hopefully we as a whole will learn to live with our raging hormones and adjust accordingly.
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It's the internet, it's anonymous, and dudes who inject chemicals into themselves in order to "mog" other guys around them even at their risk of their own health tend to have some kind of ego, whether they deserve to, or not. That's kind of why I'm not a fan of "just let it go bro", because some cretins here really need their fucking ego checked, and explictly where other people can see it.

Also lol at physical repercussions. Most people here can't do cardio for jack shit. They'd get hit and robbed, and totally unable to chase down their assailant

With more people taking gear this kind of thing will just get worse. Hey, at least it's not reddit, where the moderators are all soy as fuck and its coeducational, so you have to deal with talking to hoes over online discourse in addition to the cucks
 
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Jin23 said:
Getting back on topics track, I think this is one of the main changes on the forum; anger management and not tolerating roided up gym locker nonsense.

Being on aas pushes most people towards a particularly toxic personality, which I think comes to light the most on these anonymous forums. And I'm very pleased seeing how this is changing.
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Depends on what you mean by "toxic personality". I think a better way to put it is a significantly reduced tolerance for willfull bullshit, nonsense, and being fucked with
 
borkies said:
So, have any of you actually met a "raging roidhead" with raging hormones and anger issues?

Any of the people I know or have met in person that ONLY use gear tend to be pretty mellow and low key.

The dudes that I've met that are on gear but also abuse stimulants up to and including meth and cocaine tend to be a whole new level of asshole. I don't really think this has to do with the gear. Also, they tend to have other emotional/mental disorders in the mix.

At worst, the only personality/character flaw I've seen with gear users is a bit of "main character syndrome". But they're usually low key, polite, soft spoken even. Gentle giants if you will.

In personal/romantic relationships I'm sure things look different. I know I got into a lot more fights with my wife whenever I used tren in the past. But you'd never know it if I was your coworker or buddy or random dude you met - I'm usually super chill. I kinda feel like this is the norm.
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I used the word metaphorically, but I have observed it in reality at one point. I know it’s sensationalized to create panic or make news more exciting but there are instances where individuals exhibit behaviors they might otherwise not have done if not because of hormones effects on their bodies.

Driving is where I and most of people I know exhibit the effect of gear. It seems like when on blasts/cycle we tend to be more aggressive and take more risks. One guy I know even had to go to anger management course due to road rage behavior and was mandated by the judge as part of his plea bargain. It could just be him or its because of the androgens but who knows right.

Anyway, I am just being honest here. Injecting exogenous hormones affect our mental wellbeing as well no matter how much we deny it.
 
were all just posturing chimps taking hormones at the end of the day things are cut throat and everyones out for themselves. doesnt matter if you have big brains or not doesnt change the human condition. thats why the globalists are doing what they are doing cuz once were all metrosexual mulattos there will finally be peace in the world. without testosterone there will be no wars no conflict just constant empathy and gay sex. then the ruling elite can be the only ones with testosterone and have access to all the hottest women and trannies and smack you around and ridicule you with extreme evil right in front of your face and you will probably get a boner from it. thank you
 
borkies said:
So, have any of you actually met a "raging roidhead" with raging hormones and anger issues?

Any of the people I know or have met in person that ONLY use gear tend to be pretty mellow and low key.

The dudes that I've met that are on gear but also abuse stimulants up to and including meth and cocaine tend to be a whole new level of asshole. I don't really think this has to do with the gear. Also, they tend to have other emotional/mental disorders in the mix.

At worst, the only personality/character flaw I've seen with gear users is a bit of "main character syndrome". But they're usually low key, polite, soft spoken even. Gentle giants if you will.

In personal/romantic relationships I'm sure things look different. I know I got into a lot more fights with my wife whenever I used tren in the past. But you'd never know it if I was your coworker or buddy or random dude you met - I'm usually super chill. I kinda feel like this is the norm.
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Often bro. A couple guys I coach that are on Tren right now are totally unbearable. Went from bad to fucking worse. And I empathise completely. This is out of touch.
 
DECLAN said:
I used the word metaphorically, but I have observed it in reality at one point. I know it’s sensationalized to create panic or make news more exciting but there are instances where individuals exhibit behaviors they might otherwise not have done if not because of hormones effects on their bodies.

Driving is where I and most of people I know exhibit the effect of gear. It seems like when on blasts/cycle we tend to be more aggressive and take more risks. One guy I know even had to go to anger management course due to road rage behavior and was mandated by the judge as part of his plea bargain. It could just be him or its because of the androgens but who knows right.

Anyway, I am just being honest here. Injecting exogenous hormones affect our mental wellbeing as well no matter how much we deny it.
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Absolutely.

One thing that has improved on the steroid forums in the past decade is the willingness to admit objectively that AAS fuck with us. Nobody would acknowledge this back then, we were all "mellow giants." Fucking ridiculous. I can name the one guy on gear that I know who is consistently stable. Everyone else is out to pasture when blasting, and you know who knows the truth better than anyone? Their significant others.

When we're in the gym we're at our best. When we're faced with daily stressors like driving, we are are absolutely fucking not.
 
Type-IIx said:
When we're in the gym we're at our best. When we're faced with daily stressors like driving, we are are absolutely fucking not.
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OH it's unreal, if I'm driving behind you and you make one minor fuck up like driving 4 Kmph below the speed limit, I'm screaming from behind my wheel and teaching my four year old in the backseat new words. But if you're in a mall walking like a jackass with no sense of your surroundings I can just shrug it off and wait for a chance to walk past you
 
Reddit partially ruined all forums. It’s a cesspool of INCEL Amazon drivers, retail cashiers and baristas who mainly try to be contrarian in whatever point is made, be it valid or not. I’ve seen random shitbirds who work at JCrew argue with PhD chemists. Their true identities are almost always phony cringe; just a series of bad actors. Not all, some are real ones, but most just become addicted to giving black and white advice in any area they can spend 5 minutes googling for a false sense of superiority that distracts them from their lazy, spoiled lifestyles. Most, unfortunately, represent the modern state of American manhood.
 
I think road rage is mostly commited by non steroid users. There are not so many everyday people on steroids. Most of the road ragers are rec drug users/abusers. Those under alcohol influence and young guys who bought a BMW beater thinking he's a drift king while listening to Russian rap - sorry mama, I became a criminal...
 
marsupial said:
Depends on what you mean by "toxic personality". I think a better way to put it is a significantly reduced tolerance for willfull bullshit, nonsense, and being fucked with
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A lot of other issues to. Reduced IQ, specifically cognitive flexibility, increased ego, narcissism, this stupid level of extraversion and loss of ones inner world, etc. Most all people I know turn in to jackasses when on cycle and if nothing else, they at least become a bit dumber, less able to put them selfs out of their perspective and into someone's else or just any other point of view which significantly differs from theirs (cognitive flexibility), they become stubborn, ful of some stupendous dopaminergic energy (yeah let's do it, yeah!), etc. I haven't meet one person in real life or on a forum that steroids made a better person out of him. Most people who say aas don't effect them just have very poor introspection ... Ofc some get more affected then other.
 
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