Another Clomid warning.

[Night_Owl]

Hi guys,

I know this is very old news for most of you, but I figured that if my experience helps someone new, it might be worth sharing.

I did Clomid 4 years ago, for a week or two, possibly 3.

It was instructed by a well meaning doctor, who, unfortunately didn't know what he was doing.

He put me 10 (yes 10) times the recommended dose.

At the time I didn't even know what Clomid was so I just took it without doing any research like an idiot.

My lab work came back, my red blood cells jumped through the roof, my T was high and he told me to quit cold turkey. He then realized the mistake he had made in the dosage.

I wish this was the end of it, but I started getting floaters in my eyes.

I didn't know what the fuck they were so I started searching online for terms like "black strings in eye".

That's when I found out they were called floaters and that clomid can cause them.

It's 4 years later and they are all still there. I can't really count them but I would guess about 50 small ones per eye.

The "good" news is that your brain kind of starts to ignore them.

The bad news is that sometimes when the sun hits at just the right angle, you can really see all of them.

I know this side effect is old news, but I just wanted to share my experience, maybe it helps someone new to all of this.

My personal 2 cents: stick to Toremifene for PCT or something similar.

 

[Night_Owl]

I forgot to mention.

Some people want to try enclomiphene instead of clomid.

I have a good friend in China who is familiar with many manufacturers.

He says most of enclomiphene from China is unpure because it is very hard to make pure.

He says the best he has seen is 87% pure (labeled as 99% purity).

So if you're going to do enclomiphene, especially from those SERM/SARM websites who get shit straight from China, just be careful guys. Get it HPLC tested first or something.

 

[jackhammer85]

500 mg a day ??
Dunno if this could help, but could the carnivore diet maybe clean it up ? you could try and research about it just saying dont know, hope you get better

 

[Night_Owl]

Thanks @jackhammer85 I'm going to look into that. I appreciate your comment. Yes it was about 500mg a day if I recall correctly.

 

[jackhammer85]

sure man you 2'
you will find some people on it for long periods, but some use it for a month or two, then go off, you can play around, it it a good elimination diet.

 

[Night_Owl]

@jackhammer85 that sounds very interesting, I will probably try it actually, I will definitely post an update if I see any improvements with the eyes. Thanks again man.

 

[LeoTC]

500 mg a day ??
Dunno if this could help, but could the carnivore diet maybe clean it up ? you could try and research about it just saying dont know, hope you get better

The carnivore diet has zero legitimate health benefits beyond weight loss, provided calories are properly restricted.

Please the nutritional zealotry and bullshit off Meso.

 

[jackhammer85]

The carnivore diet has zero legitimate health benefits beyond weight loss, provided calories are properly restricted.

Please the nutritional zealotry and bullshit off Meso.

to be honest it sounds a bit like you got no research behind that cause i do, or i have looked into it for some time a just came off 2 motnhs my self, dosent hurt to try and tell somone to give it a look maybe he could benefit maybe could you self who knows, he can just stay away if it isnt for him, but saying it hasent help anybody with anything other then weight loss is wrong, but you can think that if you want, that you..

and its not zero cal, u dont count cal on carnivore, in big terms, its zero carb, i think thats what u mean thats right. and staying away from crap meat..

 

[LeoTC]

to be honest it sounds a bit like you got no research behind that cause i do, or i have looked into it for some time a just came off 2 motnhs my self, dosent hurt to try and tell somone to give it a look maybe he could benefit maybe could you self who knows, he can just stay away if it isnt for him, but saying it hasent help anybody with anything other then weight loss is wrong, but you can think that if you want, that you..

Elimination diets work because they remove problematic foods, or in extreme cases like Vegan or Carnivore, most foods from the diet.

You lose weight and health markers improve. Because your overall health has improved via weight loss.

They're not a magic bullet or a cure all for anything other than a fat ass.

Stop buying the bullshit that people with agendas push down your throat.

Your ignorance is on display when you do so.

 

[jackhammer85]

Elimination diets work because they remove problematic foods, or in extreme cases like Vegan or Carnivore, most foods from the diet.

You lose weight and health markers improve. Because your overall health has improved via weight loss.

They're not a magic bullet or a cure all for anything other than a fat ass.

Stop buying the bullshit that people with agendas push down your throat.

Your ignorance is on display when you do so.

have a nice day....

 

[jackhammer85]

@jackhammer85 that sounds very interesting, I will probably try it actually, I will definitely post an update if I see any improvements with the eyes. Thanks again man.

Give it some research alot of people have good benefits of it due that the bodies inflammatory level go down so i can repair more
I would suggest trying to look of intermittent fasting too
No problem, hope youll be better

you can go on youtube and look up "carnivore conferrence" that could be a start

 

[LeoTC]

have a nice day....

And so it goes.

Because there's never more than anecdotal observations to indicate any benefit beyond fat loss and the associated benefits thereof.

Show me a peer reviewed study, done on a metabolic ward, that indicates otherwise.

I've yet to see any that pass muster.

Intermittent fasting is also a gimmick. If you're intake exceeds expenditure, you'll put on weight whether you eat for four, eight, or sixteen hours.

Again, there are zero benefits beyond simplifying caloric restriction.

You, are a fool.

 

[jackhammer85]

And so it goes.

Because there's never than anecdotal observations to indicate any benefit beyond fat loss and the associated benefits thereof.

Show me a peer reviewed study, done on a metabolic ward, that indicates otherwise.

I've yet to see any that pass muster.

You, are a fool.

you could do some research on it, not so much is provided yet, but if all people were like you and just sit down and cry, and give up no one would figure anything out, the "research" there is for now are a fuck lot of people who had things like auto immune diseases, diabetes, joint pains, brain fog, inflammations in skin, depression, and the list goes on.
I once thought i was a though guy like you but i got older. just never behind a keyboard tho, like i mean i sense your attitude, you must be pissed for some reason i dont want to know, but in 1 min from now you will prob reply like "YEA cause bitches like you spread ignorant shit all over meso" again i say, i dont either want to play with you, im trying to give some advice, who know maybe it could the guy, but yea keyboard warriors like you, i never understand why you spend so much time on nothing against people i bet you are alot on facebook too on brainless topics
again you have your opinion, i have mine as i said

 

[LeoTC]

you could do some research on it, not so much is provided yet, but if all people were like you and just sit down and cry, and give up no one would figure anything out, the "research" there is for now are a fuck lot of people who had things like auto immune diseases, diabetes, joint pains, brain fog, inflammations in skin, depression, and the list goes on.
I once thought i was a though guy like you but i got older. just never behind a keyboard tho, like i mean i sense your attitude, you must be pissed for some reason i dont want to know, but in 1 min from now you will prob reply like "YEA cause bitches like you spread ignorant shit all over meso" again i say, i dont either want to play with you, im trying to give some advice, who know maybe it could the guy, but yea keyboard warriors like you, i never understand why you spend so much time on nothing against people i bet you are alot on facebook too on brainless topics
again you have your opinion, i have mine as i said

Diabetis.
Joint Pain.
Brain Fog.
Hypertension.
Depression.

Funny how all of those issues can be improved or eliminated entirely via weight loss.

You restricted calories and, ideally, got off your ass. You lost weight and health markers improved.

Is it really that difficult a concept?

Are people really this stupid?

Also, science trumps opinion. Educate yourself instead of taking podcasts and dad diets as gospel. As I said, it puts your ignorance in display.

 

[jackhammer85]

can be, can be not

 

[LeoTC]

can be, can be not

You're incredible.

I don't think I've ever been moved to drop someone onto the ignore list the day they register.

Congratulations.

Buh-bye.

 

[jackhammer85]

You're incredible.

I don't think I've ever been moved to drop someone onto the ignore list the day they register.

Congratulations.

Buh-bye.

you do you

 

[The Terminator]

It’s likely that you already had the floaters and noticed them because you were aware that clomid could possibly cause visual disturbances. Tbh visual side effects are not as common as most think, pretty rare actually.

 

[kosp]

of course 500mg of clomid can do you real harm. Did not you report the doctor?

 

[BirdieNumNum]

I would choose Clomid over tamox any day. Even though it is tucking shut.