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Another Clomid warning.

kosp said:
of course 500mg of clomid can do you real harm. Did not you report the doctor?
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Yeah I’m pretty sure this might open up this doc to a malpractice lawsuit.. just saying if indeed he prescribe an unhealthy amount by mistake.
 
I wouldn't advice toremifene over clomid tbh. Clomid has proven its self in hypogonadal men. Just dont take 500mg of it
 
iamnightowl said:
Hi guys,

I know this is very old news for most of you, but I figured that if my experience helps someone new, it might be worth sharing.

I did Clomid 4 years ago, for a week or two, possibly 3.

It was instructed by a well meaning doctor, who, unfortunately didn't know what he was doing.

He put me 10 (yes 10) times the recommended dose.

At the time I didn't even know what Clomid was so I just took it without doing any research like an idiot.

My lab work came back, my red blood cells jumped through the roof, my T was high and he told me to quit cold turkey. He then realized the mistake he had made in the dosage.

I wish this was the end of it, but I started getting floaters in my eyes.

I didn't know what the fuck they were so I started searching online for terms like "black strings in eye".

That's when I found out they were called floaters and that clomid can cause them.

It's 4 years later and they are all still there. I can't really count them but I would guess about 50 small ones per eye.

The "good" news is that your brain kind of starts to ignore them.

The bad news is that sometimes when the sun hits at just the right angle, you can really see all of them.

I know this side effect is old news, but I just wanted to share my experience, maybe it helps someone new to all of this.

My personal 2 cents: stick to Toremifene for PCT or something similar.
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Please ask your doctor what can be done to reverse the floaters and keep us posted.
 
iamnightowl said:
My personal 2 cents: stick to Toremifene for PCT or something similar.
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So your 2 cents is to stay away from Clomid because your doctor was an idiot and prescribed you x10 the dose and you were dumb enough to take the drug as described! Ummmm no thanks clomid is fine, just need to avoid taking advice from you and your doc :D

Edit: I would like to see the prescription bottle because I don't believe this. It's a multi million dollar law suit...
 
@Sworder if you do a simple google search you would find out that this side effect happens to people taking regular doses too. I'm not going to try to convince you that I took 500mg. What exactly would I gain from lying about taking a female infertility drug on an anonymous internet forum? "Look at me, I took an overdose of drug that helps women ovulate?" ... lol you're an idiot.

@master.on thanks man, this was years ago though, but I'll see a doctor about it the coming weeks. I will let you guys know what happens.

@kosp yeah it probably should have freaked me out. To be honest, I was really sick at the time (had a lot of other medical issues), so I didn't really think much of it. I was taking so many pills at the time already. Looking back now, it was odd for sure.

I appreciate the responses. I know I could probably sue my doctor but I have already made peace with it. It's not good to live in anger. I've seen him for 25 years now, there's not a bad bone in his body. I'm sure it actually bothers him more than me at this point. Trust me I hate doctors as much as most people. But this is not one of them.

Take care yall.
 
iamnightowl said:
@Sworder if you do a simple google search you would find out that this side effect happens to people taking regular doses too. I'm not going to try to convince you that I took 500mg. What exactly would I gain from lying about taking a female infertility drug on an anonymous internet forum? "Look at me, I took an overdose of drug that helps women ovulate?" ... lol you're an idiot.
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Show a picture of the prescription label and I will apologize and admit that I am an idiot and that you are not a liar.

Until then, your story is full of shit or you have a multi-million dollar law suit you should take advantage of. Edit: I checked it out, average settlements for over 90% of malpractice suits is around $450k.
 
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Medication errors that have led to manslaughter charges
Medication errors that have led to manslaughter charges
"Summary points
  • If a doctor is grossly negligent and the patient dies as a result, the doctor can be charged with manslaughter
  • The numbers of doctors charged with and convicted of manslaughter have increased appreciably in the past decade
  • Blaming one or a few people for an error that may be the result of difficulties at many stages in a complex process is dangerous
  • This action encourages secrecy and inhibits system changes that would reduce the likelihood of future errors
    "
Here are some cases that lead to death, I will try to find some more cases as well.
 
iamnightowl said:
That's fine, by all means please think that.
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Yes I will, however it isn't the rarest occurrence that you get the wrong dose prescribed. Ten or 100 times the dose is common as you just add a zero or two. :)

Seeing as you have been looking for UGLs for your drugs, I will further assume and cement the notion that you are lying about a doc prescribing you this dose.

Have a good day!
 
iamnightowl said:
@Sworder thanks man, I hope you have a good day too :)

Everyone else:

Found this today: Visual disturbance secondary to clomiphene citrate. - PubMed - NCBI

It says some symptoms can last 2-7 years. Maybe it will go away eventually.

I'll keep this thread updated.
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Those women had visual disturbances like shimmering lights, or extended after images which is constant with the pituitary gland pressing on the optic chiasm, which only happens to like 1.5% of the people taking clomid. What you are complaining about are floaters which is damage to the actual gel of the eyeball, which happens to everyone as time goes on, I have several before ever touching clomid. I believe the only possible way to fix it is to have a highly unrecommendes surgery, other than that I don’t think there’s much that can be done.
 
iamnightowl said:
@master.on thanks man, this was years ago though, but I'll see a doctor about it the coming weeks. I will let you guys know what happens.
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Did all the floaters disappear?
If not, you may ask the doctor to refer you to an ophthalmologist (preferably for free) to see what they can do on reversing SERM caused floaters.
 
Man you need fundoscopy from an ophthalmologist. Only fundoscopy can tell you if you have damage.What are you waiting man?

  • Flashes and floaters are usually signs of benign disease; however, a small percentage will have sight-threatening disease and hence all patients require a dilated fundus examination.
  • If symptoms of acute onset flashes and floaters are present urgent same day referral is required
  • Acute-onset flashes and floaters with visual field defect are suggestive of retinal detachment.
RACGP - Flashes and floaters: a practical approach to assessment and management
 
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