Anxiety Medications. What has worked for you?

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As the authors note, cannabis use in individuals with mood and anxiety symptoms seems to be a “Band-Aid” strategy that may temporarily improve acute symptoms while worsening outcomes in the long run. Absolutely no study suggests cannabis use as a viable therapeutic strategy for anxiety and depression

Nonetheless, the implication for clinicians treating patients with mood and anxiety disorders seems clear: Ongoing use that is more than occasional would likely hurt therapeutic outcomes


 
What dose, though? And have you stacked it with semax? I have heard the intranasal has a better effect but you say otherwise?
I'm 6'6" / 265-270 so mine is a little higher than yours. I haven't used Selank in a bit, as my RX for Memantine nukes my anxiety quite well. that said, I would use 800-1000mcg per day. You can go nasal no problem, I'm just stating that I saw no difference between the two routes with the same dosage & frequency.
 
Yeah it's exactly like the symptoms of a heart attack, the term is "impending doom". No matter how hard of a mofo you are your brain literally tells you you're dying or something bad is inevitable, Benzos are a god send but I wouldn't wish them on anyone unless you are debilitated by your anxiety or suffer from GAD daily I wouldn't touch them as they are hell to come off of. Having Xanax on hand to use PRN once in awhile is a lot different than guys who end up on daily scripts. Trust me been down the GABA related drugs road and it is hell.

My Advice as someone who has been anxious since I was a kid:

vitamins that may help:

Ashawaganda - I believe it actually works in relation to the Gaba-a unit but also has been proven to reduce cortisol levels by up to 27-30% in some tests. I would take it at night try 300mg, and then 600mg and make sure you get the KSM-66 type.

L-Theanine - Can pretty much take as much as you want, can be very calming and if you are coming off benzos or are panicking feel free to take up to 1g at a time.

Magnesium Glycinate or Citrate - Majority of population is deficient in magnesium and it's naturally calming typically I would take 1.5g before bed. If you haven't had issue with gaba drugs previously this one might surprise you how relaxing/tired it can make you feel.

BPC-157 - Has been shown to slow/help rats not get physically addicted as badly to Diazepam (Valium) when co-administered. Definitely has some sort of effect on homeostasis in the GABA system. Typically 250-500mcg pre-bed. If you are trying to get off your benzos then 500mcg 3x a day to help calm you works great.

BPC alone some people fine helps with anxiety/relaxation.

Selank is another peptide that is touted for anxiety

Agmatine - just google Agmatine anxiety or Agmatine depression for more info I'm just gonna bang out the list of items I have. The coals notes is :

Agmatine, is a substance that has existed since 1911 which posseses the same antidepressant effects as ketamine and other glutamergic drugs, by inducing massive neurogenesis in the prefrontal cortex & hippocampus via mTor signaling and AMPA receptor activation.

Tyrosine - Dopamine related

5-HTP - if you want to avoid prescription SSRI's

SAM-E

NAC

Last, last resort: Benzos AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE and for some reason people seem to say Xanax has much worse withdrawals than other benzos and I've heard it from a few other people as well.

Always recommend using them PRN and no more than when you full blown panic. If you are on Ativan/Xanax/some other fast acting hard hitting benzo and want to quit I recommend the following:

1) Transfer your prescription to a long acting benzo like Diazepam (Valium) General rule is 1mg Ativan/Xanax is equipotent to ~10mg Diazepam. Diazepam is much easier to taper due to its extremely long half life, you will not succeed trying to taper xanax if you have been on it for awhile the half life is just too short.
2) Google the Ashton Manual and follow a proper taper protocol, do NOT try to cold turkey or quit these too fast
3) Run BPC alongside the Diazepam as you taper
4) take it SLOW and steady, it takes a very long time to properly hop off these drugs.

I hope this list helps people out and feel free to PM me if you have questions. Unfortunately I don't have much experience in the Anti-depressant department though.
Hell yea thank you, agamtime is there a dose?
 
I've done countless hours of CBT with private therapists and through the VA.
Many times i can "talk" myself out of a panic attack.
There are times though when it's a runaway train. Not sure Buspar is the right choice but I'll find out.
Thanks.
I’ve take every medication possible. To include ketamine treatment it’s just learning to live with it and respond with spiritual principles as opposed to medication but I am presently on buspar and lamotrigen. Honestly I think the buspar does absolutely nothing. Me and the Xanax don’t work out well I wake up with prison sentences lol that not a joke. LMAO
 
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It is such a fine line at what makes some one an addict but I personally define an addict as someone who becomes physically/ and mentally attached to something to allow them the ability to escape reality. When the drug is taken away and there are life threatening withdrawals then yeah you have become addicted, but there is always going to be a withdrawal anytime you take away something you are used to taking and even doing. I would get withdrawal is I wasn’t able to get into the gym for a week. Pure and simple. But when the use negatively affects the user then that’s the problem. Someone that doesn’t get coffee 2bdays in a row, trust and believe they are getting withdrawal. If you aren’t crushing your pills, and snorting them, or taking 3 when 1 will do. I think you are probably okay. And yes we build a tolerance to it. However, it’s our job to control it best as possible. Someone that eats a scoop of ice cream every night, and the 1 scoop turns into a bowl over time, and causes that person to become overweight. That is a problem. The one scoop wasn’t a problem but it’s when we take more than is needed, and health is effected it’s an issue. Sorry about the rant.
Licensed drug counselor here basically in short what you’re saying and what he should know is there is “physical dependence and then there’s addiction” both have withdrawal and both will result in needing medical detox. Alcohol and Xanax are the only two substances in the world that can cause death from detox. Both of those substances bind to the CNS receptors.
 
Had anxiety and still have for most of my life. I've managed it well and didn't get over my life. I'm also a daily cannabis smoker for a lot of years now.
However in my current job who is a lot of stressing. I had anxiety physical symptoms not mental cause I know how to handle this shit. But still the physical symptoms was there , fast heartbeat, shaking sweating etc.
I've expiramenting with ashwagandha for a good 2 months now. Thanks to that supplements my physical symptoms dissappear.
So I think it's good on anyone who can handle anxiety but still has the physical symptoms.
 
Long history of severe anxiety buspar did nothing, weed is hit and miss.Only thing that worked for me is klonopin.Took years trying every antidepressant/antipsychotic combinations of both before I got a script been on them for years now.Only take them when needed still take same dose so no tolerance despite what people say.
 
ive heard some folks having negative symptoms after ashwaganda.

for me when it works it a nice almost burn out feeling from small dose oh thc. not in a bad way just that relaxed but not intoxicated feeling. however hit or miss. noticeable effect first few times then nothing even with several day break... every now and then try agiain and 50/50 feel it both extract and not. funny enough raw root from random amazon had more pronounced effect.
 
Phenibut is supposed to be good

Personally haven't seen any effects on any regard so far, dosed 1mg on a couple of occasions
 
Had anxiety and still have for most of my life. I've managed it well and didn't get over my life. I'm also a daily cannabis smoker for a lot of years now.
However in my current job who is a lot of stressing. I had anxiety physical symptoms not mental cause I know how to handle this shit. But still the physical symptoms was there , fast heartbeat, shaking sweating etc.
I've expiramenting with ashwagandha for a good 2 months now. Thanks to that supplements my physical symptoms dissappear.
So I think it's good on anyone who can handle anxiety but still has the physical symptoms.
You should try 10mg propranolol. It will make the physical symptoms disappear and it has a duration of effect of around 4 hours.
 
Phenibut is supposed to be good

Personally haven't seen any effects on any regard so far, dosed 1mg on a couple of occasions
Yeah phenibut helped for me. Can be extremely addictive and dangerous though. But so can xanax.

on another note, combining the phenibut with ephedrine creates a nice ecstasy feel in most people.
 
You should try 10mg propranolol. It will make the physical symptoms disappear and it has a duration of effect of around 4 hours.
I was actually going to post this. 30-60mg of propranolol works wonders for my anxiety. Beta blockers are hit or miss for a lot of people, but I look at it as a very safe, non-addictive option for people.
 
Isn't this a BP drug ?
Kind of, but not really. It’s a beta blocker, which is a class of meds that is primarily used to slow heart rate by blocking the action adrenaline in cardiac tissue. They will lower your blood pressure, but not by a ton.

For instance, if you went into a doctor with a chief complaint of high blood pressure, you’d try four or five other things before beta blocker.

Some of them are more “cardioselective” than others. That means, some of them block adrenaline in the heart almost exclusively, and some of them block it more widely in the body. If someone has a type of anxiety that is mediated by adrenaline (not all are), beta blockers can be really helpful, especially when used in conjunction with therapy.
 
Phenibut is supposed to be good

Personally haven't seen any effects on any regard so far, dosed 1mg on a couple of occasions
ya you won't see anything with 1mg of phenibut nor 100mg... doses are 300mg-1g+ iirc. perhaps thats what u meant is 1g? ie 1000mg? takes a few hrs to kick in. feels dirty foggy
 
Sounds like a miracle because I'm almost sure it's caused by adrenaline. Does it lower BP much? Also can you take it first thing AM with fasted cardio or it will interfere with cardio ?
 
Sounds like a miracle because I'm almost sure it's caused by adrenaline. Does it lower BP much? Also can you take it first thing AM with fasted cardio or it will interfere with cardio ?
You can do cardio while using propranolol, but I'd recommend that you only use 10mg, or even 5mg. At these doses, your heart beats smoothly, with low intensity. No clunking heart beats, no palpitations, no tachycardia. Just smooth heart beating. It will lower your blood pressure a little bit.

The better thing to do would be to do your fasted cardio without propranolol, because with less adrenaline action after taking propranolol, you won't burn as much fat. On the the other side, lowering adrenaline will lower cortisol, so you may be able to lose fat more effectively since your body isn't in stress mode, and the body will preferably burn fat instead of muscle. A lot of people do fasted cardio and are only running on fumes and sky high cortisol, which burns all of their glycogen, and then they jump into immediately burning muscle tissue.

What kind of cardio do you do, at what intensity, and for how long?

What I find to be special about propranolol, is it can "reset" your stress response. It can break bad habits. It can retrain your body. This means you may not have to take propranolol all the time. Maybe you take it a few days, or a few weeks, or occasionally. It doesn't matter. On some level, it will modify your body's stress response to whatever stimuli known or unknown, that is creating these physical manifestations of anxiety.

You may find that you start to operate cool, collected, calm, without anxiety symptoms, even when you don't take propranolol.

You can also accomplish this "reset" with clonidine. But that's another topic. Essentially, you have to break the stress response, which is basically out of control cortisol and adrenaline, which in turn causes all kinds of blood sugar problems like hyperglycemia/hypoglycemia etc. It's a vicious cycle that has to be broken.

I think propranolol is the best solution for this and it's pretty risk free, unless you have asthma, because some people get bronchial restrictions, like wheezing etc. Not that common though.
 
You can do cardio while using propranolol, but I'd recommend that you only use 10mg, or even 5mg. At these doses, your heart beats smoothly, with low intensity. No clunking heart beats, no palpitations, no tachycardia. Just smooth heart beating. It will lower your blood pressure a little bit.

The better thing to do would be to do your fasted cardio without propranolol, because with less adrenaline action after taking propranolol, you won't burn as much fat. On the the other side, lowering adrenaline will lower cortisol, so you may be able to lose fat more effectively since your body isn't in stress mode, and the body will preferably burn fat instead of muscle. A lot of people do fasted cardio and are only running on fumes and sky high cortisol, which burns all of their glycogen, and then they jump into immediately burning muscle tissue.

What kind of cardio do you do, at what intensity, and for how long?

What I find to be special about propranolol, is it can "reset" your stress response. It can break bad habits. It can retrain your body. This means you may not have to take propranolol all the time. Maybe you take it a few days, or a few weeks, or occasionally. It doesn't matter. On some level, it will modify your body's stress response to whatever stimuli known or unknown, that is creating these physical manifestations of anxiety.

You may find that you start to operate cool, collected, calm, without anxiety symptoms, even when you don't take propranolol.

You can also accomplish this "reset" with clonidine. But that's another topic. Essentially, you have to break the stress response, which is basically out of control cortisol and adrenaline, which in turn causes all kinds of blood sugar problems like hyperglycemia/hypoglycemia etc. It's a vicious cycle that has to be broken.

I think propranolol is the best solution for this and it's pretty risk free, unless you have asthma, because some people get bronchial restrictions, like wheezing etc. Not that common though.
Interesting stuff, I can only find it at 40mg per pill.

Is it fine to take with cialis? Also does it affect libido or erection like some BP meds tend to do? What else we need to keep in mind before taking it?
 
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