Any vets want some free gear?

[ChemistryMan]

This is very true. Which is why i came seeking someone who has experience getting tests done. I know some of you have to have a reliable lab that you trust otherwise i'm worried about what you are putting in your' bodies. I can send to an outside lab myself and have it tested for proof however judging from the replies i don't think any of you would believe me. Which is understandable and why that was not my approach. .

 

[jets]

^^^ agreed what if they just mix the oil with there jizz and that's what your injecting

STP was doing that and as a bonus he threw in some pubies [)] But I agree I just want best gear out there. I don't want cheap or free, I want the best. I have the money and Bodybuilding is my life, so I'll dedicate my money into it. I plan on running two cycles a year so a couple hundred a cycle wont hurt. I don't know why people cheap out, I pay for security and peace of mind

 

[kilsong]

. Remember guys money doesn't have to change hands for it to be trafficking.

^^this^^ ^^this^^ ^^this^^

 

[bickel29]

Wow! Chem Man, do yourself the biggest favor you could ever do, and stop even pretending to try to do this!

Selling ANY schedule controlled drugs is an enormous risk under any circumstances. But, your plan to just order extra drugs and then adjust the inventory counts is INSANE! You think no one is watching? You think no one will notice?

I used to work for one of our nation's largest drug stores/pharmacy. The LOSS PREVENTION DISTRICT MANAGER got fired for stealing pain killers. His scam? Pocketing the pills "off camera" and adjusting the inventory counts. Sound familiar?
And this guy was the LP DM!!! No one was watching him - he thought - he was the one watching everyone else! WRONG!

Wise up, junior! You are better off selling your ass on Craig's List to well hung men than giving it up for free to your cell mates, if you need the cash that bad.

 

[alaskinassasin]

What IS the better way?

Noobs are going to buy gear. Period. We aren't going to stop them. They can get it from Z or others like him. Or they can get it from Hercules and others like him. Either way, none of us are going to stop it. Why shouldn't the Veteran members of meso have an opportunity to get a cycle or 2 per year for free.

We could always do things the way other boards do it, where the VETS get free gear but never tell anyone that it was free.

There is no PERFECT situation, what we are looking for is the best available option.

I don't claim to know a better way and agree with you 100% that we're looking for the best available option. That being said, when a rep puts the word out that the gear is g2g EVRYONE jumps on board. The power automatically shifts from the members to the source. Clearly the repeat scammers have caught onto this and use it to there benefit.

Is there anything we can do about it? I don't know. I'm sure the topic of finding a better way to regulate suppliers has been beat to hell by now on MESO. If anything I was stating my opinion that the current system is ineffective unless your at the top tier.

 

[ChemistryMan]

Wise up, junior! You are better off selling your ass on Craig's List to well hung men than giving it up for free to your cell mates, if you need the cash that bad.

Funny, except i have been doing this for a little while now. Selling to local juice heads. Its not as simple as adjusting the inventory and ordering more. There is a lot more to it. Like i said im not going to tell you my process because that would be stupid. With that said, your comparing me to someone pocketing pills off camera. I am much smarter than that. I have thought this through and planned. The steroids are released to the department based on study needs. Im working with the head of the study on this. He is the one who monitors everything to do with the study. I will get no more specific than that. I am putting myself at risk and appreciate your misguided disrespectful advice/concerns. But i know what i am doing.

As for loss prevention. As i said he is the head of the study, What he puts on paper is what happens. There doesn't have to be physical proof, that's not how it works.

 

[biggerben69]

Funny, except i have been doing this for a little while now. Selling to local juice heads. Its not as simple as adjusting the inventory and ordering more. There is a lot more to it. Like i said im not going to tell you my process because that would be stupid. With that said, your comparing me to someone pocketing pills off camera. I am much smarter than that. I have thought this through and planned. The steroids are released to the department based on study needs. Im working with the head of the study on this. He is the one who monitors everything to do with the study. I will get no more specific than that. I am putting myself at risk and appreciate your misguided disrespectful advice/concerns. But i know what i am doing.

As for loss prevention. As i said he is the head of the study, What he puts on paper is what happens. There doesn't have to be physical proof, that's not how it works.

You won't get more specific because there are no more specifics. You're putting yourself at risk by answering questions about your plan? The big risk is you coming on an enormous wide open board giving us the info you did in your opening post. It would've made more sense and would've been safer by posting specifics and not giving the broad over view. I'm not sure if you understand what I'm getting at?
Maybe this, if you were selling stolen precious stones(diamonds etc) would it be safer for you and possible buyers if you said that you've got some fangtastic stones that you obtained from a heist of a world renowned supplier/seller of precious stones. Is that broad overview safer than this........
We've got a tremendous value on a handful of diamonds of this grade and this clarity. Cash,cashier checks for purchase. You won't come across an opportunity like this again, blah blah blah
No armed heist no mention that it's from a major supplier. IMO I make sense....agreed?

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

What IS the better way?

Noobs are going to buy gear. Period. We aren't going to stop them. They can get it from Z or others like him. Or they can get it from Hercules and others like him. Either way, none of us are going to stop it. Why shouldn't the Veteran members of meso have an opportunity to get a cycle or 2 per year for free.

We could always do things the way other boards do it, where the VETS get free gear but never tell anyone that it was free.

There is no PERFECT situation, what we are looking for is the best available option.

Because when the vet gives the source the thumbs up, the source automatically gains legitimacy. And it means FUCK ALL! That is the model used on every scammer board on the net. Do you want it here too?


It is a stupid idea. If it worked, Hercules wouldn't have walked away with thousands of dollars of Meso member's money. If vets can't afford to but their own gear, they should take up another hobby. But for everybody else, the answer is don't use new sources PERIOD!

 

[ChemistryMan]

No armed heist no mention that it's from a major supplier. IMO I make sense....agreed?

Yes makes sense. Perhaps that would have been the better approach. I never intended it to go this way anyway. I was intending on talking to a vet through pm about it, thought that would be safer.

 

[sheerpower51]

I agree

 

[alaskinassasin]

I'm not going to sit here and tell you exactly how we get away with it. Does a drug dealer tell you how or even where he gets his stuff. No. Why would i release the specifics of how i am getting away with it? That's the stupidest thing i have ever heard and that of all things will land me in jail. You guys don't want to try it that's fine. It really is because there is juice heads everywhere.

And are you really complaining about free gear for vets seriously because your worried about the service dropping off afterwards? Than you should never buy from anywhere because the service might get worse. Don't need a degree to tell you don't have one.

You know your right, I don't have a degree I'm in the process of getting one. Tell me this though. Whos the fucking dumbass in this situation? An individual who likes to protect their investments or an individual who will throw everything away because they have, what they feel to be, a solid plan to fuck a tightly regulated industry?

Whether or not your whole story is true or not is debatable. In any case tell Tyron that AA sent you for the full treatment. Dropping the soap wont even be an issues. I'm sure everyone in jail will thoroughly enjoy a fresh college grad

 

[pumpingiron22]

I can tell just by reading you original post you are bad news. If any one reads this stay far away from this guy!

 

[ChemistryMan]

Look ill tell you exactly what i told biggerben, all of you are so concerned about me going to jail over this and taking you all with me. This is how we get away with it.

As i said the study head, which is also the head of the department, is my partner in this. Once a month the inventory is randomly checked to match the checkout sheets. Which means a guy comes in, counts everything down to the pairs of goggles. Every time you take any chemical/substance it must be signed for on the checkout and then signed back in when its returned. As with most labs these days.

So yeah its regulated like a bitch. Stealing would be near impossible to get away with. Except from day one they have been ordering a excess amount of everything, which means for the last 2 years the inventory sheets have been the same on every order. Practically every study does it now days, you have to keep showing you need all the funding you are getting or they will cut it each time you don't use it.

So everything would stay the same. The only difference is that instead of dumping all of the excess, we sell it. It does limit the amount i can get to what is already coming in, but it would be steady every month.

Stay away from me if you wish but i do have legit gear and the offer stand for a vet who can get labs done on it.

 

[Kamala]

What IS the better way?

Noobs are going to buy gear. Period. We aren't going to stop them. They can get it from Z or others like him. Or they can get it from Hercules and others like him. Either way, none of us are going to stop it. Why shouldn't the Veteran members of meso have an opportunity to get a cycle or 2 per year for free.

We could always do things the way other boards do it, where the VETS get free gear but never tell anyone that it was free.

There is no PERFECT situation, what we are looking for is the best available option.

The big danger with this is that the Vet WILL get his gear in record time, and it will be GTG. Once he gives the all clear, then the noobs will follow and that is when shit normally will get bad.

Almost all of the other boards where Vets endorse labs are extremely corrupt. They don't always tell everybody it was free, but they do write up fantastic revues and shill it to death. Guys like us know that they are getting kickbacks, but again its the noobs that suffer.

I dunno, and this is just my stupid 2c, but its really hard for a vet to endorse a lab publicly without it looking like a conflict of interest. I have no idea what the perfect situation is or even looks like, but if a vet endorses a lab and then it goes sour then so does that vets reputation. And it could be a situation where the Vet was being honest, because he received the good gear and everybody else got shafted.

Nothing gets me more irate than seeing good revues about a lab, everybody lined up sucking the reps balls, meanwhile what I received is unusable because it hurts so bad and swells my arm up.

 

[Stretch]

The big danger with this is that the Vet WILL get his gear in record time, and it will be GTG. Once he gives the all clear, then the noobs will follow and that is when shit normally will get bad.

Almost all of the other boards where Vets endorse labs are extremely corrupt. They don't always tell everybody it was free, but they do write up fantastic revues and shill it to death. Guys like us know that they are getting kickbacks, but again its the noobs that suffer.

I dunno, and this is just my stupid 2c, but its really hard for a vet to endorse a lab publicly without it looking like a conflict of interest. I have no idea what the perfect situation is or even looks like, but if a vet endorses a lab and then it goes sour then so does that vets reputation. And it could be a situation where the Vet was being honest, because he received the good gear and everybody else got shafted.

Nothing gets me more irate than seeing good revues about a lab, everybody lined up sucking the reps balls, meanwhile what I received is unusable because it hurts so bad and swells my arm up.

I hear you. You're definitely right about the first paragraph. The vet will always have the perfect experience. But as long as the Vet is honest and forthcoming about the gear being free, shouldn't it be obvious that his review is really more of a commercial? That's the difference about Meso, we make the Vets/sources come clean about the gear being free.

We only have 2 options, either sources can give away free gear to members for review, or we call that unethical, and we call it a horrible model, and we call for an end to the practice of giving gear away for free.

Then what happens?

Then sources give the gear away under the table. MANY of the vets here that we respect would be willing to do it, and that's a fact. Then we become just like the other boards, where VETs are on the payroll. At least when we promote the process, it gets put out in the open.

It's kind of like the guys who argue for Steroids to be allowed in sports. You can't stop sources from giving away free gear, just like you can't stop athletes from taking PED's.

So just allow them to give away the gear, and demand transparency, seems to me to be, the best available option.

 

[JackC4]

It's an imperfect system in an imperfect business. This thing is so overwhelmed with scumbags and fucking leaches it's almost impossible to trust anyone. Especially the guy that wants you send your hard earned cash over. Unfortunately you've got to take chances to get what your looking for.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

I hear you. You're definitely right about the first paragraph. The vet will always have the perfect experience. But as long as the Vet is honest and forthcoming about the gear being free, shouldn't it be obvious that his review is really more of a commercial? That's the difference about Meso, we make the Vets/sources come clean about the gear being free.

We only have 2 options, either sources can give away free gear to members for review, or we call that unethical, and we call it a horrible model, and we call for an end to the practice of giving gear away for free.

Then what happens?

Then sources give the gear away under the table. MANY of the vets here that we respect would be willing to do it, and that's a fact. Then we become just like the other boards, where VETs are on the payroll. At least when we promote the process, it gets put out in the open.

It's kind of like the guys who argue for Steroids to be allowed in sports. You can't stop sources from giving away free gear, just like you can't stop athletes from taking PED's.

So just allow them to give away the gear, and demand transparency, seems to me to be, the best available option.

You could do that OR, and this is the better option, IMO - create an atmosphere on MESO that STRONGLY discourages anyone from even considering sources that have no history, no references, and are completely unknown.

I suppose it would be similar to how we deal with shills or scammers like Z. If a Meso vet got a free cycle from Z, do you think they would admit it? Not likely! If they face similar scorn or accusations of shilling for trying every swing dick that scores a kilo of powder and a bathtub, it will quickly put a stop to that bull shit.

Like I said in the hercules thread, I don't give a flying fuck about new sources that come here looking to make a name for themselves. It's not our responsibility to help them get established. Meso doesn't owe these clowns anything. If they are serious about being a legit "long term" source, they can go pay the sponsor fees at PM or OLM and build a name that way. They don't belong on Meso.

That the Hercules scam was ever allowed to happen here really bothers me. No, I didn't lose money - I would never use a source like Herc. This is the first big scam I've seen happen to Meso since I've been following the board and those types of scams ARE NOT supposed to happen here. But, it did happen. It happened because those of us who know better dropped the ball. The only members who consistantly warn against using new sources are BB and Jim but they can't be everywhere, all the time. I wish the rest of us had stepped up to the plate the minute his sorry ass landed.. He should have never been given an opportunity to get established on Meso.

It's time for the vets to take a stand against this, not look for free cycles at the expense of everybody else.

CBS

 

[JackC4]

CBS ? You knocked this one outta the fuckin park!!!

100% truth

 

[heel hook]

That is the best answered up above, again don't use new sources, One shouldn't even consider until after many good reviews and atleast many months as an approved source and even then no guarantees.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

There's not a clear cut answer but I think it might be somewhere in between Stretch and CBS's posts. An opinion from a vet on this board is worth a lot more than any references a source has who I don't know.