Anyone else never use pre workout?

Fk training on stims I’m way more down with some dbol or var pwo (I really want to try TNE/suspension, even though readalot posted stuff shitting all over that idea idgaf ahah anyone I know who tried it loved it n I’m curious :P ).
 
I’ve never used them, not that am anti-pw, just never sued it. I have my coffee in the morning with my preworkout meal, 5mg cialis, 500mg metformin with about 100g carbs, enough pump for me.
 
Citrulline Malate and Vietnamese coffee. That's it.
Isn’t Vietnamese coffe just called kratom? Or am I confusing it with the Thai variety? Ahah jk I would be interested in training while chewing khat or some coca leaf though, lots better than caffeine n way less side effects
 
Isn’t Vietnamese coffe just called kratom? Or am I confusing it with the Thai variety? Ahah jk I would be interested in training while chewing khat or some coca leaf though, lots better than caffeine n way less side effects
Absolutely not! Vietnamese coffee is highlands robusta, higher in caffeine, low acid and really smooth. You may be confusing the fact that the coffee bean and kratom come from the same botanical family.
 
shitting all over
Just to clarify I did not shit on it. The data we have demonstrates it behaves similar to Test Prop WRT its release and elimination after IM injection (serum PK profile).

Now if @Sector did inject TNE dissolved in oil (not a suspension) then that's a different beast. I posted up a clarification asking him.

May have been my bad for assuming he was referring to water based TNE suspension.
 
I’ve never used them, not that am anti-pw, just never sued it. I have my coffee in the morning with my preworkout meal, 5mg cialis, 500mg metformin with about 100g carbs, enough pump for me.
Does metformin affect pump? This is pretty close to my mornings and the metformin just came in today.

@RomanMVP I'm a coffee fiend would you be so kind to suggest a brand?
 
Does metformin affect pump? This is pretty close to my mornings and the metformin just came in today.

@RomanMVP I'm a coffee fiend would you be so kind to suggest a brand?
I buy

Birdee Vietnamese Coffee Bean, from Amazon. There are several others, just make sure the majority of it is robusta. Also lenscoffee.com, you can get 100% VN robusta there.​

 
Sup guys, is it just me who never uses pre workout? Never really drank caffeine to much. If I do get some pre it’s the non stim pump formulas. Anyone else the same ?
I usually train without pre-workout, but if i need a little help sometime, the caffeine goes a really long way... (the androgens are surely sufficient pre-workout right ;))
 
Just to clarify I did not shit on it. The data we have demonstrates it behaves similar to Test Prop WRT its release and elimination after IM injection (serum PK profile).

Now if @Sector did inject TNE dissolved in oil (not a suspension) then that's a different beast. I posted up a clarification asking him.

May have been my bad for assuming he was referring to water based TNE suspension.
Test no ester implies oil base

If it was water base, I would have said solution.

So yes, your bad. Glad we can move past that now
 
Fk training on stims I’m way more down with some dbol or var pwo (I really want to try TNE/suspension, even though readalot posted stuff shitting all over that idea idgaf ahah anyone I know who tried it loved it n I’m curious :P ).
Yeah I love TNE pre workout. Have used it for gym sessions and powerlifting competitions with great sucess. Massive strength gains, can feel it about 1-1.5 hours after administering it. It's definitely not placebo. Best pre workout I've ever used.
 
Test no ester implies oil base

If it was water base, I would have said solution.

So yes, your bad. Glad we can move past that now
TNE implies oil base and homogeneous solution? Did not know that. I thought it simply refers to the unesterified hormone.

If it was water based you mean you would have said suspension?
 
TNE implies oil base and homogeneous solution? Did not know that. I thought it simply refers to the unesterified hormone.

If it was water based you mean you would have said suspension?
I just say no ester water based. One of craziest steroids I tried is stanozolol in water. That stuff made me extremely strong and I got diced on gram of test in one week. I couldn't believe how well it worked. I injected it, back then I didn't know I could swallow it.

It kills oral winstrol in comparison. But the safety of it is questionable, back then I didn't care lol.
 
I just say no ester water based. One of craziest steroids I tried is stanozolol in water. That stuff made me extremely strong and I got diced on gram of test in one week. I couldn't believe how well it worked. I injected it, back then I didn't know I could swallow it.

It kills oral winstrol in comparison. But the safety of it is questionable, back then I didn't care lol.
I agree. I trialed a very low dose of stanozolol in buccal troche form and it was shocking. Very surprised in terms of its effectiveness as PED.

I like your naming system. Any hormone can be delivered via a suspension or solution but for esterified hormones the typical shuttle is a solution.

So using the [hormone/chemical name/CAS # haha] [solution/suspension] description system would avoid ambiguity. Overkill for most everything except TNE, which was a commercial product as a water based suspension (Aquaviron), stanozolol and a couple others.

Examples:

1. TNE (suspension/H2O)

2. Test Cyp (solution/Mct/BB/BA)

3. Test Cyp (suspension/Mct/BA)

I'll admit number 3 would be pretty funny to see advertised. Really no purpose.
 
Sup guys, is it just me who never uses pre workout? Never really drank caffeine to much. If I do get some pre it’s the non stim pump formulas. Anyone else the same ?
I don’t use it anymore at all. It’s been about a year without it. When I started I never used it and then I got really
Big on it for about 4 years , using the super heavy stim ones. It started fucking my stomach up bad where I’d be belching the whole time trying to work out, then I would crash really bad later in the day with the super high stim so I noticed that when I don’t use it, or just drink a Celsius
Before a workout, I get a way better workout in now
 
Oh no I've got a "stalker" now LOL. Thanks @Sector !

And I thought you were a fan of getting terms correct. Clearly I was wrong. If you give me a few more downvotes I will make an even 100.
 
Oh no I've got a "stalker" now LOL. Thanks @Sector !

And I thought you were a fan of getting terms correct. Clearly I was wrong. If you give me a few more downvotes I will make an even 100.
I mean you're the one trying to invalidate someone else's experience over TNE, a compound you yourself have never used, saying that TNE is placebo and that TNE is the same thing as test Prop, and rather than just owning up to your mistake, squashing it and moving on, you delve Into arguing the semantics of "solution" vs "suspension". It seems like you lack actual experience with these compounds, you just parrot and paraphrase what you've read elsewhere

No point in me arguing with some autistic dude that has the social awareness of an actual potato.
 
I mean you're the one trying to invalidate someone else's experience over TNE, a compound you yourself have never used, saying that TNE is placebo and that TNE is the same thing as test Prop, and rather than just owning up to your mistake, squashing it and moving on, you delve Into arguing the semantics of "solution" vs "suspension". It seems like you lack actual experience with these compounds, you just parrot and paraphrase what you've read elsewhere

No point in me arguing with some autistic dude that has the social awareness of an actual potato.
Good to know. Thanks. Too bad you want to keep pushing this BS that TNE refers to a solution definitively. You know you have hit rock bottom in debate when you attack the person. Solution vs suspension is anything but semantics.

Have a good one.
 
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