Eddie.
Member
No i didn't, I disliked mast and the idea of diuretics for that particular reason you wanted it for and not AI. I take aromasin when i run test solo even at 300mg.
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Anything I can do to deal with facial bloat on blast?
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No i didn't, I disliked mast and the idea of diuretics for that particular reason you wanted it for and not AI. I take aromasin when i run test solo even at 300mg.
Bandern
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Running diuretics throughout a blast for metrosexual reasons is certainly an idea!
Eat clean, do your cardio, and embrace the bloat like a good BBW (Big Beautiful Waterbuffalo)
RockyP
Member
Not necessarily recommending it but this is basically the main reason why lots of guys run masteron in the off season. If you’re retaining so much water that your face is puffy then I wouldn’t worry about it drying out your joints. I know you say you don’t feel high E2 sides but if your estrogen is normal on 1 g test without any AI / estrogen control I’d be shocked.
trenisbest
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don’t really feel like anally raping ever hair follicle on my scalp tbh, but if you aren’t prone and running high test, i can understand running it (although it will fuck your skin quality also, but i guess they don’t care about that).
Will just water balloon until i drop down the test i guess.
hard_gains
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Why didn't you gradually increase the dose?
Nah. Deep down we do it for the homosexual reasons.
Slowww
Member
Im actually a little surprised people do this if they don’t monitor electrolytes in their blood work regularly.
Seems like a pain
Hell no. I was joking. It was an unserious answer. I probably should have put that out there better
Slowww
Member
I only asked because I have seen some looksmax protocols include this and was confused if this was catching on in body building culture for image enhancement as well lmao. Internet is a crazy place hahahaha
trenisbest
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i think they only do that for events they want to look good for.
I don’t think they should even be needed tbh if you are truly lean with ab veins and quad striations, running low test and have diet in check they will be as debloated as anyone needs.
doesn’t even make sense to use diuretics on a bulk cycle w high test, taxing your kidney. if you are going to blast with high test water retention is to be expected until you drop your dose back down.
Lol it was an unserious answer for an un serious poster since he couldn't be bothered to even pull his e2 numbers.
Thats scary that people are going back to lasix. Diuretics are harsh enough, but loop diuretics just for looks is insane.
RockyP
Member
In addition to what's been said, it's quite possible there isn't much to do about this - all the big boys get round faces in the offseason from 1000+ mg test and a shit load of carb, GH, and insulin. I think it's one of those things to just deal with. If it's that big a deal, consider lowering the test dosage and running a secondary anabolic with E2 control (mast, EQ, primo). I'd say lower the carbs but if we're massing I dont think less than 500 grams is helpful
trenisbest
New Member
i agree it’s something i’ll just deal with while bulking. it’s not a permanent issue anyway, all the water and round face will drop off once you return to your cruise anyway. no point blasting diuretics and potentially harming kidneys etc when all that’s needed is to see the bulk through then lower the test dose back down.
17SS
Member
Masteron.
Slowww
Member
But then how will I see the lines on my ass cheeks! If I’ve got water blurring them!!!?
Just deal with it, there are bigger fish to fry— like blood pressure with high water retention etc..
OilCarrier
Member
what does mast do for you? I have always avoided it from being low in SHBG already.
Slowww
Member
regarding diuretics I think that this is not a simple answer of loop=bad, but it’s like any other tool. Ok if you’re going to come off of furosemide it’s not something you go from 180mg to 0 over night or else youre going to become a water buffalo, it’s going to be nasty and bad for you, potentially dangerous, same with increasing dosages. But if you’re trying to manage electrolyte balance in a certain way, whether you want potassium sparing, or whatever it will come down to a specific basis of dietary inputs, electrolyte and water inputs and blood work. People can die from misapplying any of them with a lot of clen, and whatever god only knows they are doing
GeorgeMa
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- Keep surplus small and stay as lean as you can.
- Cardio to sweat: 30–45 min StairMaster/incline walks everyday
- Hydration >4 L/day and keep sodium consistent/low-ish
- Balance sodium with potassium: coconut water, bananas, kiwi, berries, avocado, Greek yogurt, potatoes.
- Carb discipline: face bloat tracks carbs. Try 100–200 g/day from whole foods.
- Zero alcohol, solid 7–9 h sleep
- If E2 or hematocrit are way off on labs, water will follow. Fix the cause rather than chase symptoms.
- Cardio to sweat: 30–45 min StairMaster/incline walks everyday
- Hydration >4 L/day and keep sodium consistent/low-ish
- Balance sodium with potassium: coconut water, bananas, kiwi, berries, avocado, Greek yogurt, potatoes.
- Carb discipline: face bloat tracks carbs. Try 100–200 g/day from whole foods.
- Zero alcohol, solid 7–9 h sleep
- If E2 or hematocrit are way off on labs, water will follow. Fix the cause rather than chase symptoms.
trenisbest
New Member
why hematocrit?
Eddie.
Member
I had low e2 symptoms despite my e2 was fine on bloodwork. It dropped my libido, made all my joints hurt which i eventually made me fck up again my already damaged shoulder and also gave me cramps and muscle spasm. Every time i was going to sit or lift up from a standing position my lower quads were doing spasm, you could see the muscle moving like it was alive. It happened with my biceps, forearms, triceps and sometimes lats too.
Aesthetically 500mg didn't do much, tren at 1/3 was 10 times better.. Primo is way, way better too for me. I just fell for the hype, seeing everyone saying it's the best "feel good" compound, high libido etc but it was jackshit to me.
GeorgeMa
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high test = more red blood cells. Thicker blood = higher BP = more water.
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