Ace42 said:
Does anyone on this board realize that religion is a made up entity. Created by people in power at the time to fit their political and social needs and to control the masses. I can't be the only one who believes in evolution and takes the side of science against this guy who lives in the sky who does magic whenever he feels like it.
Ace.
ahhhh, an evolutionist......good, now let me ask you this, I suspect that you are a proponent of Darwinian theory and I will agree that species definitely evolve as a result of their environment. However, I'm hard pressed to see where Darwin, or Stephen Jay Gould for that matter, have explained the time-space continuum, the source of the first quanta of energy in the universe, mass, why physics can explain nearly everything in our universe thus implying that the universe follows some form of order (and if someone brings up entropy, I'll kick you because entropy is a process that can be explained mathematically....via physics)...anyway, I'm sure you get my point. The reason that Darwin and people like Gould cannot explain these things is because they are BIOLOGISTS......biologists are not hard scientists, they observe, and the only mathematics that they use, in 99% of their work, is statistics and probability - whereas hard science is such that one can predict an outcome based on a set of parameters.....biologists cannot predict an outcome mathematically, they can only share a probability based on empirical data => observation.
Man probably evolved from apes up to a point.....however, at some juncture, man ascended to a higher level of consciousness. I do not doubt that the Cambrian fish became terrestrial. I do not doubt the existence of dinosaurs since I can drive to the la brea tarpits and see the proof myself....however, I have to believe that at some point, man became intelligent and if you consider certain passages in the book of genesis (all you scripture-citers probably know page and line number which in this illustration is worthless - concept, words mean little in terms of the bigger picture) anyway, within the book of genesis, it talks of the earth being essentially nothing for a period of time prior to the first day....this period could very well account for the ice age and all the other wonderful stuff like the little ugly fish and dinosaurs and paleolithic man, but after this period in genesis, man became conscious and this story of the bible (essentially a piece of recorded history whether true or not) began.
Tying this all together, the study of science ultimately leads us to a singularity where we find that a supreme being is at the center of the universe though we cannot see him or interact with him. It puzzles me that many biologists do not believe in God. But bear in mind that Sir Isaac Newton, father of kinematics and the calculus amongst other things, said (paraphrasing) "if you cannot explain something mathematically, you know very little about it". Now mathematics can neither prove nor deny the existence of God, yet most scientists acknowledge, as a result of their analysis, that the natural order of things suggests that we are the product of a higher power. Biologists.....well, I guess they have studied monkeys enough to conclude that there is no God, though they cannot see all else that is around them....nor look to the sky in the black of night and question just how infinite the universe is and why it came to be in the first place. I guess the monkeys told them that God does not exist.