Arimidex Protocol During And After Test E/dbol Cycle

[RockRambo]

Hi,

I have planned the following cycle:
Week 1 to 12 – Test E 500 mg per week
Week 1 to 4 – Dbol 30 mg per day
Week 1 to 14 –arimidex 0.25 mg EOD

I have a question on Arimidex - The tabs are pretty small to be broken into 1/4th of their size, however, half of their size is easily achievable and I have 14 tabs 1 mg each of them. So, I am thinking to change the protocol to
Week 1 to 12 - arimidex 0.5 mg E2D so that I just need 14 tabs during my cycle to keep the bloat off. As per experience, I am not prone to Gyno so using Anastrozole to stay away from the moon face and water retention. What do you guys think?

 

[ironwill1951]

anastrozole works different for every one, 0.5 e2d seems low to me , i take 1mg per day to keep my estrogen levels in the acceptable range,

 

[RockRambo]

anastrozole works different for every one, 0.5 e2d seems low to me , i take 1mg per day to keep my estrogen levels in the acceptable range,

Thanks bro..but given that I am using only 500 mg test per week , do you think 0.5 mg E2D is still low? I mean I don't want to take too much of it as well..or is this also a trial and error game, that i should take it and then monitor the bloat?

 

[mghoward74]

What your stats?
Sounds like you 1 st cycle.
Do you have PCT protocol?
What about HCG protocol?


You can use a pill cutter to split the pills. .

Don't start your cycle until you have all your AI/serms on hand. Just be a little more patient and order more arimidex.

Bloat is directly related diet & sodium intake.

Good luck

 

[RockRambo]

What your stats?
Sounds like you 1 st cycle.
Do you have PCT protocol?
What about HCG protocol?


You can use a pill cutter to split the pills. .

Don't start your cycle until you have all your AI/serms on hand. Just be a little more patient and order more arimidex.

Bloat is directly related diet & sodium intake.

Good luck

stats are pretty average - 13% bodyfat at 74 kgs.
Week 13 to 14 – HCG 2000 i.u (premix) per week (using it after cycle as i dont have the powdered one , researched a lot on this so decided to use it in the 'blast' manner)
weeks Week 15 to 18 –clomid50 mg every day for first 2 weeks and 25 mg ed for last 2 weeks (50/50/25/25)
Week 15 to 18 –nolva40 mg every day for first 2 weeks and 20 mg every day for the last 2 weeks (40/40/20/20).

I know bloat is directly related to the carb intake but heard that dbol bloats a lot (first time using dbol), have used test E before. Hence, wanted to take some AI to keep bloat in check but not much to interfere with gains..!!

Just researched and found that there are no standards but guidelines..so I think I can order some more AI and start with 0.5 mg E2D to 0.5 mg EOD if needed..

 

[mghoward74]

Pretty sure you need to run hcg for 3 weeks.

 

[RockRambo]

Pretty sure you need to run hcg for 3 weeks.

oh!! Guess, some members here advised that hcg might not even be mandatory with these dosages so I decided to pin 4000 i.u over two weeks.. You mean, 6000 i.u. over three weeks should be administered?

 

[mghoward74]

HCG is used to recover from or prevent testicular atrophy. Why would you not use it. Those who suggested NOT to use it are wrong.

Now there are discussions on when to use it, but not to use it is mind boggling

 

[FuriousWO]

Thanks bro..but given that I am using only 500 mg test per week , do you think 0.5 mg E2D is still low? I mean I don't want to take too much of it as well..or is this also a trial and error game, that i should take it and then monitor the bloat?

It's a trial and error game. One that you can truly only monitor via bloodwork.

 

[brutus79]

I am Confused...I hear no mention of bloodwork. If you don't know what dosage to run your ai the ONLY way to find out is by running it for a few weeks, getting bloods, adjust if necessary, get bloods again, etc... it is very unsafe and completely inaccurate to ask people online what dose to use on a peoduct that affects everyone differently. Crashing your e2 or growing titties are both bad. Run your tests and come to your own conclusions.

 

[brutus79]

It's a trial and error game. One that you can truly only monitor via bloodwork.

I was typing mine when you posted this. Great minds think alike FWO!

 

[mghoward74]

Also...you might want to reconsider arimidex on pct. Aromasin would be a better choice.

Yes....blood work is a must. Thought it but didn't mentioned it.

 

[RockRambo]

I am Confused...I hear no mention of bloodwork. If you don't know what dosage to run your ai the ONLY way to find out is by running it for a few weeks, getting bloods, adjust if necessary, get bloods again, etc... it is very unsafe and completely inaccurate to ask people online what dose to use on a peoduct that affects everyone differently. Crashing your e2 or growing titties are both bad. Run your tests and come to your own conclusions.

Ok. Great ! So, I understand that gyno related symptoms are nipple soreness, etc and I am not prone to it as per experience, however, what I am worried about is the latter that you mentioned - crashing E2, hampering gains, etc. Hence, as a starting point, 0.5 mg E2D for some duration and then getting the bloods done is appropriate? What symptoms should I notice that 0.5 mg E2D is high for me? lack of energy, libido, making less gains, etc.?

 

[brutus79]

Ok. Great ! So, I understand that gyno related symptoms are nipple soreness, etc and I am not prone to it as per experience, however, what I am worried about is the latter that you mentioned - crashing E2, hampering gains, etc. Hence, as a starting point, 0.5 mg E2D for some duration and then getting the bloods done is appropriate? What symptoms should I notice that 0.5 mg E2D is high for me? lack of energy, libido, making less gains, etc.?

Once you notice those sides you are in trouble... I would do every three days and get bloods 3-4 weeks in. You have nolva on hand too?

 

[RockRambo]

Once you notice those sides you are in trouble... I would do every three days and get bloods 3-4 weeks in. You have nolva on hand too?

Yes I do but just enough for pct - 40/40/20/20. Do I need it if there are signs of gyno? I am not prone to it as far as test is concerned ( ran a sustanon -500mg/week cycle before) but this is my first time with Dbol so what worries me is the water retention due to dbol more than anything else.