ARL Russia -Anabolic Research Labs-2019

[ARL4Life]

If products came back properly dosed it would only help ARLs business. So I really don’t get it?
It’s not like they couldn’t put out a protocol and incentives and change it accordingly.
To be in this game for 11 years I would think they’d be more professional when it comes to testing nowadays.
If they don’t send their own products in for testing regularly and offer store credit for their customers to also do so then one can only wonder why!?
Doesn’t seem like they want to be held accountable for their products is my guess!!

You guys thinking too much [emoji16].
No actually we have alot going on.
We will impliment the testing store credits when we have something we feel is right then it will be anounced.Alot of different task mentioned will be completed and put into effect in the next weeks.At the moment i can say simec would be all we accept.We want be accepting w&m or jano.We are looking into who else we would be considering as an approved lab and working out the discount #.
The vials will have to be unopened and we will be replacing as well ofcourse.likewise it will not be long for these things we plan to have completed soon aF.[emoji41]
More suggestions or examples of labtesting/discount programs are welcome if you like to post.

 

[T-Bagger]

You guys thinking too much [emoji16].
No actually we have alot going on.
We will impliment the testing store credits when we have something we feel is right then it will be anounced.Alot of different task mentioned will be completed and put into effect in the next weeks.At the moment i can say simec would be all we accept.We want be accepting w&m or jano.We are looking into who else we would be considering as an approved lab and working out the discount #.
The vials will have to be unopened and we will be replacing as well ofcourse.likewise it will not be long for these things we plan to have completed soon aF.[emoji41]
More suggestions or examples of labtesting/discount programs are welcome if you like to post.

Wise choice on not accepting Jano, but that has REALLY limited the playing field. I also understand why you would say unopened vials, but that will definitely make it harder and/or less attractive for people in countries where AAS is illegal to send off their samples.

 

[ARL4Life]

And yes 11 years.Our gear is contantly tested by us and customers.
Now as far as publishing results for the public indeed you are right we have not done that in a while and it is needed.You know we cant just publish any results to the public as it has to be labs that the public are familur with and approve of.
But these are being done and i would like to actually thank all of you for what you do.I feel meso can take a bad lab ,source..brand etc.Pick it apart and do away with it.On the flip i see that meso can take a allready great brand/source ..pick it apart and critically assist in grooming a great brand/source and making it better.
What you guys do is good.

 

[bolder]

You guys thinking too much [emoji16].
No actually we have alot going on.
We will impliment the testing store credits when we have something we feel is right then it will be anounced.Alot of different task mentioned will be completed and put into effect in the next weeks.At the moment i can say simec would be all we accept.We want be accepting w&m or jano.We are looking into who else we would be considering as an approved lab and working out the discount #.
The vials will have to be unopened and we will be replacing as well ofcourse.likewise it will not be long for these things we plan to have completed soon aF.[emoji41]
More suggestions or examples of labtesting/discount programs are welcome if you like to post.

I wouldn’t want you to forget about it. I’ll make sure to keep reminding you until something is set into place.

By not choosing a lower costing testing lab your store credit incentive will be crazy high. If a test analysis cost say $300 and a vial is say $50 plus shipping costs, the store credit would have to be around $500 to justify it.
I think you guys should rethink who you allow customers to send samples off to.

 

[movingiron88]

You guys thinking too much [emoji16].
No actually we have alot going on.
We will impliment the testing store credits when we have something we feel is right then it will be anounced.Alot of different task mentioned will be completed and put into effect in the next weeks.At the moment i can say simec would be all we accept.We want be accepting w&m or jano.We are looking into who else we would be considering as an approved lab and working out the discount #.
The vials will have to be unopened and we will be replacing as well ofcourse.likewise it will not be long for these things we plan to have completed soon aF.[emoji41]
More suggestions or examples of labtesting/discount programs are welcome if you like to post.

Unless something changed that does nothing for US customers. Since does not take samples from US. So then nothing for your largest customer base? Great! You might want to call another board meeting to see if you can come up with something else.

 

[T-Bagger]

You guys thinking too much [emoji16].
No actually we have alot going on.
We will impliment the testing store credits when we have something we feel is right then it will be anounced.Alot of different task mentioned will be completed and put into effect in the next weeks.At the moment i can say simec would be all we accept.We want be accepting w&m or jano.We are looking into who else we would be considering as an approved lab and working out the discount #.
The vials will have to be unopened and we will be replacing as well ofcourse.likewise it will not be long for these things we plan to have completed soon aF.[emoji41]
More suggestions or examples of labtesting/discount programs are welcome if you like to post.

So is it because of the controversy that Mercury and Jano stirred up against W&M that you won’t allow testing by him?

 

[bolder]

Unless something changed that does nothing for US customers. Since does not take samples from US. So then nothing for your largest customer base? Great! You might want to call another board meeting to see if you can come up with something else.

I wasn’t sure if Simec took US samples or not. In that case it does absolutely nothing for US members here! So that changes shit!

@ARL4Life thats not gonna be good enough then. ARL is gonna have to do better than this.
Since you are on Meso as a source and this is a members board then you should except what members here agree on in reference to an accredited testing lab that members see fit.
We have two in the lab testing section that most members here use.

 

[ARL4Life]

Brother we are not going to do as you want you are in no reguard even close to knowing anything you are talking period.Mearly parroting what you have picked up in the bro forums.We are not doing anything for just you or at your speed.You do not spend money on our products and you are not a paying customer and i imagine you never plan to be either.If you do not like then do not buy.

 

[ARL4Life]

Those two you mention for testing are no better then the kitchen brew labs as well.We will never acknowledge testing from them.If you do not understand why than you surely are not qualified to be recomending anything period so blindly.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Brother we are not going to do as you want you are in no reguard even close to knowing anything you are talking period.Mearly parroting what you have picked up in the bro forums.We are not doing anything for just you or at your speed.You do not spend money on our products and you are not a paying customer and i imagine you never plan to be either.If you do not like then do not buy.

Never a customer if there’s no tested product! That’s a no-brainer. Show your products are dosed appropriately.

I guess that’s too much to ask for!

 

[bolder]

Brother we are not going to do as you want you are in no reguard even close to knowing anything you are talking period.Mearly parroting what you have picked up in the bro forums.We are not doing anything for just you or at your speed.You do not spend money on our products and you are not a paying customer and i imagine you never plan to be either.If you do not like then do not buy.

Those two you mention for testing are no better then the kitchen brew labs as well.We will never acknowledge testing from them.If you do not understand why than you surely are not qualified to be recomending anything period so blindly.

I don’t think you know what you’re fuckin talking about.
I understand why you won’t acknowledge testing from them because you’re afraid your shit may be under dosed. What’s on the label won’t be what’s actually inside. Or worse!
You’re exactly right though. I’d never be a customer here with your attitude and non tested shit!
You will soon be left behind because there are various sources here that are testing their products and encouraging their customers to do the same by using store credits as an incentive. They stand behind their products while ARL hires shills to stand behind theirs.
You do not stand out and are definitely not a good option when other sources are tested and encourage it. While ARL dances around it with more empty promises.
ARL has all these big plans but hasn’t done anything supporting those plans. Instead you up your prices and offer your customers a VIP 10% discount. What a fuckin joke!

I’m not suggesting you answer to me at all. I’m suggesting you get on board with product testing that will help everyone on both sides.

You’re claiming like you’re not a bathtub brewer like the rest so fuckin prove it!
Post pics of ARLs setup. Let’s see how a professional UGL is supposed to look! The difference between ARL and the “bathtub” brewers is they test their products and have incentives for their customers while you guys do not!

I’m done giving advice here. Post up so everyone can see what ‘big time’ ugls look like! One that doesn’t want their gear tested that is.
But you won’t and will dance around it like you’ve danced around hiring shills because evidently it’s better to do that than have tested products.

Oh, you are correct. I do not like it and will not buy for sure now. I will however inform members openly like in this post as to why I won’t.
Ya dumbass bipolar fuck!

 

[ARL4Life]

I wouldn’t want you to forget about it. I’ll make sure to keep reminding you until something is set into place.

By not choosing a lower costing testing lab your store credit incentive will be crazy high. If a test analysis cost say $300 and a vial is say $50 plus shipping costs, the store credit would have to be around $500 to justify it.
I think you guys should rethink who you allow customers to send samples off to.

This is you and couple other guys.same ones since jan 1st posting in thid thread.
So hundreds of meso customers buy from us and we have good relationships and wr talk to eachother like adults.

Customers can freely do anything they like and use whomever they wish to test our gear and publish.
We are not the only brand who will not give store credit for jano or this W&M.
You are a fool to think our gear is sold at naps and other online stores without complete testing.

Your conspiracy theorys are funny.

What you do is project yourself onto hundreds of people who do not feel the way you do buddy.Your angry and have your agendas and will try everything in your power with that keypad there to find anything to nit pick and harass one with.

Empty promises.Again a buisness is not going to make any changes for you at your demanding keystrokes.You are against arl.For what ever reason it does not matter brother.

Go head type some more name calling and disinfo.There are better things to do with your life.You know not everyone is out to get you or trick you.what you type does not affect arl in any negative way and no one else cares what you type either.Give respect you get it ..you sir know nothing about respect.And dont use the comeback this is how you treat members jive.

This is how i treat (You)
No respect.

1.Our gear is good and has been quality and dosed right for over a decade.And no buddy your buisness does not last over ten years with underdosed or bunk gear.
2.No one has ever been scammed.
3.never any issues with sterility.
Wish all the best for you and i have no more rap for you or you minions.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

This is you and couple other guys.same ones since jan 1st posting in thid thread.
So hundreds of meso customers buy from us and we have good relationships and wr talk to eachother like adults.

Customers can freely do anything they like and use whomever they wish to test our gear and publish.
We are not the only brand who will not give store credit for jano or this W&M.
You are a fool to think our gear is sold at naps and other online stores without complete testing.

Your conspiracy theorys are funny.

What you do is project yourself onto hundreds of people who do not feel the way you do buddy.Your angry and have your agendas and will try everything in your power with that keypad there to find anything to nit pick and harass one with.

Empty promises.Again a buisness is not going to make any changes for you at your demanding keystrokes.You are against arl.For what ever reason it does not matter brother.

Go head type some more name calling and disinfo.There are better things to do with your life.You know not everyone is out to get you or trick you.what you type does not affect arl in any negative way and no one else cares what you type either.Give respect you get it ..you sir know nothing about respect.And dont use the comeback this is how you treat members jive.

This is how i treat (You)
No respect.

1.Our gear is good and has been quality and dosed right for over a decade.And no buddy your buisness does not last over ten years with underdosed or bunk gear.
2.No one has ever been scammed.
3.never any issues with sterility.
Wish all the best for you and i have no more rap for you or you minions.

I respectfully request that you post some recent tests of your gear. A mere simple request.

 

[cochino]

This is you and couple other guys.same ones since jan 1st posting in thid thread.
So hundreds of meso customers buy from us and we have good relationships and wr talk to eachother like adults.

Customers can freely do anything they like and use whomever they wish to test our gear and publish.
We are not the only brand who will not give store credit for jano or this W&M.
You are a fool to think our gear is sold at naps and other online stores without complete testing.

Your conspiracy theorys are funny.

What you do is project yourself onto hundreds of people who do not feel the way you do buddy.Your angry and have your agendas and will try everything in your power with that keypad there to find anything to nit pick and harass one with.

Empty promises.Again a buisness is not going to make any changes for you at your demanding keystrokes.You are against arl.For what ever reason it does not matter brother.

Go head type some more name calling and disinfo.There are better things to do with your life.You know not everyone is out to get you or trick you.what you type does not affect arl in any negative way and no one else cares what you type either.Give respect you get it ..you sir know nothing about respect.And dont use the comeback this is how you treat members jive.

This is how i treat (You)
No respect.

1.Our gear is good and has been quality and dosed right for over a decade.And no buddy your buisness does not last over ten years with underdosed or bunk gear.
2.No one has ever been scammed.
3.never any issues with sterility.
Wish all the best for you and i have no more rap for you or you minions.

Let me just say that if I had to place an order today, it wouldn't be from you. I'm not being rude, but there are other sources here that are testing their products and sources that carry reputable gear. I'm not saying yours isn't, but how are we to know if it isn't being tested. If it is, lets see some results. There are many people like me here that may not post alot, but we also aren't going to blindly throw our money to somebody who is an unknown.
@bolder is trying to help you out here. If you really want to make sales here, you may want to take some of what he is telling you and apply it to your SOP's.

 

[movingiron88]

This is you and couple other guys.same ones since jan 1st posting in thid thread.
So hundreds of meso customers buy from us and we have good relationships and wr talk to eachother like adults.

Customers can freely do anything they like and use whomever they wish to test our gear and publish.
We are not the only brand who will not give store credit for jano or this W&M.
You are a fool to think our gear is sold at naps and other online stores without complete testing.

Your conspiracy theorys are funny.

What you do is project yourself onto hundreds of people who do not feel the way you do buddy.Your angry and have your agendas and will try everything in your power with that keypad there to find anything to nit pick and harass one with.

Empty promises.Again a buisness is not going to make any changes for you at your demanding keystrokes.You are against arl.For what ever reason it does not matter brother.

Go head type some more name calling and disinfo.There are better things to do with your life.You know not everyone is out to get you or trick you.what you type does not affect arl in any negative way and no one else cares what you type either.Give respect you get it ..you sir know nothing about respect.And dont use the comeback this is how you treat members jive.

This is how i treat (You)
No respect.

1.Our gear is good and has been quality and dosed right for over a decade.And no buddy your buisness does not last over ten years with underdosed or bunk gear.
2.No one has ever been scammed.
3.never any issues with sterility.
Wish all the best for you and i have no more rap for you or you minions.

You know what board you are on, so why do you think we will blindly take your word that its good? Also, you say you must be tested to sell on Naps? Well where are those tests? I am wanting to call bullshit on ARL acting like they are some popular brand. All those customers, shills, vendors and no testing. Un real.

You talk down about bathtub brewers. But, I have used a particular ugl had 6 random products lab tested all with in 5% of labeled dose. The source reimbursed me for each test and ontop of that the gear was originally half the price of your mystery gear. So you might want to try operating like them. They can get their shit right, are not arrogant assholes and have proven it. What have you done but talk like a short guy with a napolean complex? I'm calling it right now, this half assed rep @ARL4Life isnt more than 5'6".

 

[bolder]

This is you and couple other guys.same ones since jan 1st posting in thid thread.
So hundreds of meso customers buy from us and we have good relationships and wr talk to eachother like adults.

Customers can freely do anything they like and use whomever they wish to test our gear and publish.
We are not the only brand who will not give store credit for jano or this W&M.
You are a fool to think our gear is sold at naps and other online stores without complete testing.

Your conspiracy theorys are funny.

What you do is project yourself onto hundreds of people who do not feel the way you do buddy.Your angry and have your agendas and will try everything in your power with that keypad there to find anything to nit pick and harass one with.

Empty promises.Again a buisness is not going to make any changes for you at your demanding keystrokes.You are against arl.For what ever reason it does not matter brother.

Go head type some more name calling and disinfo.There are better things to do with your life.You know not everyone is out to get you or trick you.what you type does not affect arl in any negative way and no one else cares what you type either.Give respect you get it ..you sir know nothing about respect.And dont use the comeback this is how you treat members jive.

This is how i treat (You)
No respect.

1.Our gear is good and has been quality and dosed right for over a decade.And no buddy your buisness does not last over ten years with underdosed or bunk gear.
2.No one has ever been scammed.
3.never any issues with sterility.
Wish all the best for you and i have no more rap for you or you minions.

You sound more dumb with every post. I’m not projecting shit. I speak for myself only. The only agenda I have here is to keep sources accountable and to help members to make informed decisions! To run the shitty ones out of here. Members deserve better! We work hard for everything we get. I won’t settle for less than the best and neither should they!

What’s your fuckin agenda!? To put out untested gear and make money with little to no concern for your customers. Shill the fuck out of your brand and hope uninformed customers take the bait!?
Naps! Yeah that’s a trustworthy source, need I say more, smh. ARL fits good there though so just stay there.

You claim all this fuckin bullshit but have absolutely zero proof to your claims!

Show us what ARLs lab setup looks like! Post some pics since it’s a superior brand, show us current test report! Fuck, you’re all fuckin talk and no show!

Idgaf how you’ve managed to survive over the years. That’s the past. You should worry about the present. Times are changing and if you don’t change with em then all you’re going to be around here is a faint memory of a failed source.
It’s on you to prove ARL. So far you haven’t proven anything except there’s tons of better options than ARL! Good business strategy there ya dumbass!

If you don’t like how shit is done here and don’t wanna be held accountable you’re free to leave anytime. No one is making you stay here, and I guarantee nobody will miss you or ARL!

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

There’s a common theme among these UGLs that should be a BIG red flag. They dismiss valid points raised by respected guys here.

@bolder has repeatedly requested things like lab tests, an incentive for members to test gear, pictures of the lab setup. These are ALL reasonable requests yet @ARL4Life ATTACKS him. You all should be asking why?

If a UGL truly uses state of the art equipment should t they be PROUD of that and want to show it off? Pharmacon did and even if it might be a rent-a-lab it still looks cool.

If a UGL truly doses their gear accurately then they should show lab results to brag about it.

If a UGL feels strongly about their products they should provide store credit for members to submit samples for testing to “spot check” and verify the doses.

These should be the MINIMUM requirements before you guys buy. Otherwise you’re getting ripped off. @ARL4Life can’t post his own testing results which means they aren’t even testing on their end. Zero quality control.

These are all HUGE RED FLAGS.

 

[ARL4Life]

Wise choice on not accepting Jano, but that has REALLY limited the playing field. I also understand why you would say unopened vials, but that will definitely make it harder and/or less attractive for people in countries where AAS is illegal to send off their samples.

I am looking for other options besides simec to make it reasonable for would be testers at meso.Alot of people send our gear to simec and this has worked fine.
And if no one at meso wants to buy because we will not give store credit for using jano or W&M that is okay and understandable.If someone would like to suggest another testing source im unaware of i am open for opinions.

 

[T-Bagger]

I am looking for other options besides simec to make it reasonable for would be testers at meso.Alot of people send our gear to simec and this has worked fine.
And if no one at meso wants to buy because we will not give store credit for using jano or W&M that is okay and understandable.If someone would like to suggest another testing source im unaware of i am open for opinions.

Definitely a limited playing field. You probably have a lot more international customers than US and as stated somewhere else, Simec doesn’t accept from the US. I think *possibly* Lab4Tox does but I haven’t looked into their pricing. Does ARL use Simec for their raws testing?

 

[bolder]

I am looking for other options besides simec to make it reasonable for would be testers at meso.Alot of people send our gear to simec and this has worked fine.
And if no one at meso wants to buy because we will not give store credit for using jano or W&M that is okay and understandable.If someone would like to suggest another testing source im unaware of i am open for opinions.

Show ARLs lab setup!
Show proof that ARLs products have been tested!
Find a lab testing facility that will help members all around in the most affordable and safest ways possible!

You just don’t get it!
It’s not about store credit for free gear you dumbass!! It’s to encourage customers to randomly test your products so you are held accountable!

If you don’t want to be held accountable then ARL can go out the same fuckin door you came in!
FFS!! Dumbass!