ASFJ ASTRO CYCLE- Test Tren E Var HCG

I heard that too but it sounded too much like bro science.

Injecting ace ed should yield just as stable blood levels as injecting Tren e E3D.

I think that speculation may be the fact that Tren e is more regularly under dosed. It is a fairly new compound and is strictly UG.
 
That sounds like a fair assessment. I'm just waiting on an order and getting my trt dose squared away, and I'm going to give tren ace a try.
 
Alright so I'm up to 220.

12 pounds total so far but I actually lost about a pound of fat so it's a little more.

Was 245 x 6

Flat bench pr 245 x 8

My goal for this cycle is to be at 315 x 5
 
Alright so I'm up to 220.



12 pounds total so far but I actually lost about a pound of fat so it's a little more.



Was 245 x 6



Flat bench pr 245 x 8



My goal for this cycle is to be at 315 x 5



Focus on heavy pin presses and smith machine jm presses if u never did them before. These 2 alone will help u slap extra plates on the bar in a matter of weeks. Wave loading pin presses forces not only ur triceps to respond but ur inner chest, INDUCED MUSCLE GROWTH!!, now go home and eat!!

Load the bar! It's ur set!!
 
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I absolutely agree with pin press! It will also get you used to the heavier weight psychologically as well. Pin press isn't just for people using bench shirts, that is for sure.
 
I'm trying to put on size right now mostly but I will definitely incorporate the pin presses when I start chasing strength goals after I hit my desired body weight. Thanks for the tip.

I want to hit 240 8% bf

Hopefully I'm close to that by the end of this cycle. I need to lose about 5-6 pounds of fat and put on 25 more pounds of muscle.

From there I will work on strength.
 
Sounds good, remember these will not only increase ur strength which of course u want, but more importantly it will overload the muscle in a manner inwhich with the right feeding will cause the growth and subsequent size ur looking for!
 
Have fun with the anadrol. I just finished my 4 weeks and packed on almost 30 pounds.
 
Dude I think anadrol is overrated, it's actually a disgusting effect, I was edema loaded head to toe looking massive with a shirt, but disgustingly water holding without. Not worth it in my opinion, I've done 50mg and 100, results didn't change much from 50 ed. I would of stayed away from it if I was you from the cycle you had going, your gains were looking very pure.
 
Dude I think anadrol is overrated, it's actually a disgusting effect, I was edema loaded head to toe looking massive with a shirt, but disgustingly water holding without. Not worth it in my opinion, I've done 50mg and 100, results didn't change much from 50 ed. I would of stayed away from it if I was you from the cycle you had going, your gains were looking very pure.

Yeah it happens a lot worse for some people but I guess I won't know how it reacts with my physiology until I try it.

I get Gyno from fucking looking at a vial of test but luckily I don't hold onto water very easily.

I was trying to decide between Adrol and dbol or maybe tbol.

But I was leaning toward the first two for sheer mass reasons.

I don't care if I put on more water really as long as there are more lean mass gains underneath.

Opinions? I'm having a tough time deciding.
 
Like you say, unless yu experiment with yourself you'll truly never know. I personally prefer dbol, while there's tons that swear by anadrol. The decision is ultimately yours, but if you do a50 I wouldn't do more than 50 ed. Just your cycle is so clean to get involved into what could cause a hot mess. Tbol is the way to go, but obviously not your top choice
 
I was using at 50mg then went to 75mg. The water retention isn't that bad with an AI.
I've used dbol as well but I hated the cramps. IMO I had better gains and more strength with Anadrol. To each his own.
 
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