JC456
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This is a good question, and I believe there is a need.
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This is a good question, and I believe there is a need.
http://www.strengthfighter.com/2013/02/dr-squat-fred-hatfield-vs-tom-platz.html?m=1
IMO you or any other beginner shouldnt be cutting for the first few cycles. You can shape a mountain but you cant shape a pebble.
ChestRockwell
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I am not aware of a trial that has specifically compared groups of subjects who immediately transition to intake deficits and those who do not, however I was actually discussing this very topic with Lyle a few months back and we both kind of agree that the answer may be "yes".
Yes, in the sense that hypertrophy is a complex process with numerous factors involved. Some of which happen more in the acute sense, but many others in a more chronic sense. So, if we immediately stop giving our body the fuel it requires to finish up these chronic process, then it would seem reasonable to speculate that some of these processes never complete, leading to "hypertrophy on the table" so to speak...
I'm on doctor's orders to avoid leg extensions... You want to talk about an exercise that'll fuck your knees up? There you go... And that's even with doing them correctly.
Squats on the other hand, completely different story. If you don't know how to perform them correctly, time to start learning. I've never seen form breakdown happen until too much weight gets added, and that's typical of a strength athlete. If we're talking about building mass, too much weight shouldn't be getting added.
But, we all have our preferences...
Fuck leg extensions. Not only are they no good for the knees but I just don't believe they add any muscle. Now if you have muscle they can certainly add detail, separation, etc.
I will need knee replacements in both knees fairly soon but I continue to squat unless the pain is too great for me to maintain solid form. I do this for 2 reasons, one because I'm a powerlifter and squats are a competition lift. Even though I often compete push/pull only now due to the knee issues. The second reason is that all of my other lifts seem to improve when I'm squatting regularly.
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I don't have the time to translate all of them but if you want to PM me the link to one or two of the ones you're most interested in, I will do my best to lay them out to you.
You know, you're really a dick sometimes.
Leancuisine
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Lol. Ruthless.
I didnt think so
Leancuisine
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I thought it was hilarious. The pebble quote had me going
Thank you!
master.on
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pretty similar to gh15 advice
you dont built big legs with big weights,,you build it with higher number of reps with moderate weight,,pay attention to the 110lb "fitness girl" in your gym,,when she is on the stepper and you are behind her,,take a look at her quad swip and leg development,,,i assure you she didnt achieve it with 6 plates 45lb each side of a barbell,,the fact you see bunch of whores and homos looking at you while you squat dont mean you need to put on the bar 6 plates,,you wont build NOTHING BUT YOUR EGO,,and even then it wont be for long
2. lift only as heavy as you can lift with good form! all the show off movements should be kept to either when your legs are the size of kamali legs and already been through the growing phase which was years ago for a professional bodybuilder,,or to a specific day of the month that you feel like showing off and not training the muscle for growth purpose. you dont go and put 6 plates each side of the bar when you are 200lb and the pro next to you is 270lb,,dont work this way,,,yes even if you are on drugs!! the fact you juice dont mean you need to fuck yourself up and not improve,,chose a day to do it,,once a month,,to satisfy your need to be the "best" in the gym
gh15 bible: 7 rules to build a phenominal physique
ChestRockwell
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Okay, back on topic and the first article is in the works...
That'll be great to get the ball moving, otherwise this thread will explode. Q and A format?
ChestRockwell
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Correct, going to do a multi-part article due to the complexity of the question.
The first article will attempt to answer the question "What GH protocol do you find most effective for fat loss?"
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Marcus
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Your opinion and most recent literature consensus on sucralose and other artificial sweeteners, and its effect on insulin levels
Edit: I'd also love to hear other's opinions on this as well. I can start a new thread if this is the wrong place to hear. I don't see many studies on this out there
Edit: I'd also love to hear other's opinions on this as well. I can start a new thread if this is the wrong place to hear. I don't see many studies on this out there
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ChestRockwell
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Nehrling JK, Kobe P, McLane MP, Olson RE, Kamath S, Horwitz DL. Aspartame use by persons with diabetes. Diabetes Care. 1985 Sep-Oct;8(5):415-7
Mezitis NH, Maggio CA, Koch P, Quddoos A, Allison DB, Pi-Sunyer FX. Glycemic effect of a single high oral dose of the novel sweetener sucralose in patients with diabetes. Diabetes Care. 1996 Sep;19(9):1004-5
Baird IM, Shephard NW, Merritt RJ, Hildick-Smith G. Repeated dose study of sucralose tolerance in human subjects. Food Chem Toxicol. 2000;38 Suppl 2:S123-9.
Grotz VL, Henry RR, McGill JB, Prince MJ, Shamoon H, Trout JR, Pi-Sunyer FX. Lack of effect of sucralose on glucose homeostasis in subjects with type 2 diabetes. J Am Diet Assoc. 2003 Dec;103(12):1607-12
By and large, it is accepted that NNS (non-nutritional sweetners) do not impact acute or long-term glycemic load, even using extremely high doses of sucralose or aspartame.
Marcus
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Chest, thanks for posting... got around to reading these. I also found the following:
Hormonal responses to non-nutritive sweeteners in water and diet soda. - PubMed - NCBI
Fructose acute effects on glucose, insulin, and triglyceride after a solid meal compared with sucralose and sucrose in a randomized crossover study. - PubMed - NCBI
Reshaping the gut microbiota: Impact of low calorie sweeteners and the link to insulin resistance? - PubMed - NCBI
Short-term consumption of sucralose, a nonnutritive sweetener, is similar to water with regard to select markers of hunger signaling and short-term g... - PubMed - NCBI
First 2 seem to talk about changes in insulin levels and gut bacteria as it pertains to the consumption of artificial sweeteners in short and mainly long term. Second 2 I put in for fairness as I found them say sort of the opposite.
I think I'm understanding them correctly... if you don't mind glancing when you have time, is appreciate it
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Legs like that arent built by leg extensions. The man squatted 500 for reps over 20
Unless of course the advice is to NOT have legs like that.
Then carry on
Been a long while since ive seen a pic of TP. Forgot how incredible his legs were.
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