ASTRO IS A SCAMMER!!!!!!

How did you get burned by Astro ? Inform us....

Let me clear that up. I didnt this is for the busload of guys over in his thread that have. They are coming out of the woodworks now. I also dont want his other thread at the top of the list for the new guys to get fucked (im not the only one to say this). If by some chance he can fix this mass fuckery he has on his hands i will make another thread and formally appoligize
 
Let me clear that up. I didnt this is for the busload of guys over in his thread that have. They are coming out of the woodworks now. I also dont want his other thread at the top of the list for the new guys to get fucked (im not the only one to say this). If by some chance he can fix this mass fuckery he has on his hands i will make another thread and formally appoligize

The only problem with that is if you didn't get scammed by Astro then why wouldn't you say he MIGHT be a scammer instead of IS a scammer? If you have no first hand experience being scammed by him then you're running off pure hearsay. That doesn't mean you're not entitled to your own thoughts or sharing those thoughts with anyone but it does mean that on the continuum of strength of evidence, your evidence does not hold much weight.

Let me state that I have not ran Astro gear, I don't follow his thread too closely, he tried sourcing on my home board a while back and was run off, I could give maybe a fuck and a half at most if he is a scammer or not (except for the paying customers who may have gotten fucked), and I'm disturbed by the amount of people he needed to give freebies to to keep a decent rep on here for as long as he did
 
How do we know Astro wasn't busted? If he has turned scammer then he would have cleaned out everyone's account of available funds, right? Didn't he refund OdieM for around $1300? Somehow, I have the feeling he has been picked up by LE. Just my feeling. Don't get me wrong, I am not defending Astro in ANY way. I never did business with him because I couldn't stand how he ran his operation. I'm just not sure he turned out a scammer.
 
Thank you. My balls were so tiny and shriveled before ever starting aas I barely qualify as a man. Truth

Do you have any before and after pics to confirm this? Just joking lol.

Getting burned for $500 definitely qualifies you as someone he scammed. I believe you've posted several times in his thread what happened but may I suggest you go into some specifics here as well so there's more substance to your post? I'm not saying what you said isn't true but just that more details would make your situation that much more real for someone on the fence about ordering from him.
 
How do we know Astro wasn't busted? If he has turned scammer then he would have cleaned out everyone's account of available funds, right? Didn't he refund OdieM for around $1300? Somehow, I have the feeling he has been picked up by LE. Just my feeling. Don't get me wrong, I am not defending Astro in ANY way. I never did business with him because I couldn't stand how he ran his operation. I'm just not sure he turned out a scammer.

Not saying he wasnt. But le does not send out bogus ass gear.
 
Might be better to state "not recommended to order from Astro" followed by some of the above facts & then followed by stated possible issues. Regardless if he is a scammer, busted, or whatever else reason it is obviously clear there are many question marks currently about delivery. & quality of product along with possible payment & security issues. A warning to this affect is owed to the MESO community.
 
The only problem with that is if you didn't get scammed by Astro then why wouldn't you say he MIGHT be a scammer instead of IS a scammer? If you have no first hand experience being scammed by him then you're running off pure hearsay. That doesn't mean you're not entitled to your own thoughts or sharing those thoughts with anyone but it does mean that on the continuum of strength of evidence, your evidence does not hold much weight.

Let me state that I have not ran Astro gear, I don't follow his thread too closely, he tried sourcing on my home board a while back and was run off, I could give maybe a fuck and a half at most if he is a scammer or not (except for the paying customers who may have gotten fucked), and I'm disturbed by the amount of people he needed to give freebies to to keep a decent rep on here for as long as he did

While you do have a point to an extent. But there is labmax fails and other things that say he is. If i need to have something that happended to me this did happen but didnt care enough to post. I was sent two bottles of tren e and a bottle of test e. The tren should have been ace the bioniche box even said ace but the bottle said otherwise. I also ordered his line not bio. Next
 
Might be better to state "not recommended to order from Astro" followed by some of the above facts & then followed by stated possible issues. Regardless if he is a scammer, busted, or whatever else reason it is obviously clear there are many question marks currently about delivery. & quality of product along with possible payment & security issues. A warning to this affect is owed to the MESO community.

I cant possibly go back and cut and paste the last hundred pages from his thread. Might as well not even start a new one. Next
 
I feel there is more than enough info to deem Astro's operation as very unsafe and an apparent scam. I am not in any disagreement with that regardless of past quality of product
 
Not saying he wasnt. But le does not send out bogus ass gear.
True. I don't question the fact his gear had gone downhill fast, just whether or not he has been busted. He could have bonded out and was trying to make things right. Who knows now. It just doesn't make sense for him to refund OdieM, does it? I just think we don't know the whole story yet. We may never know.

Edit: Again don't misinterpret my posting here as support for Astro. I never did any business with him and never would have.
 
True. I don't question the fact his gear had gone downhill fast, just whether or not he has been busted. He could have bonded out and was trying to make things right. Who knows now. It just doesn't make sense for him to refund OdieM, does it? I just think we don't know the whole story yet. We may never know.

I have thought this and hope it is not true. A while back he was offering to sell valium everyone shoed him away because people do dumb shit on valium. Maybe he started fucking up himself? And got busted with something smaller. There is no evidence other than mia though.
 
How do we know Astro wasn't busted? If he has turned scammer then he would have cleaned out everyone's account of available funds, right? Didn't he refund OdieM for around $1300? Somehow, I have the feeling he has been picked up by LE. Just my feeling. Don't get me wrong, I am not defending Astro in ANY way. I never did business with him because I couldn't stand how he ran his operation. I'm just not sure he turned out a scammer.

He did not refund my full 1100.00. He refunded me 500.00. He had sent half my order already. Which I recieved a BS tracking # for. It took 28 days to get to me and when it did reach me it wasn't even what I ordered. He did over night me my orginal order after I bashed him. But like I said. Only half my order arrived. He still owed me 500 and after bashing him some more he refunded me.

IMO. He didn't get busted. But no one really knows the truth.
 
Alright guys look i know he has been a long time good source here but as of late not anymore.

If he didnt get busted then he is a scammer until PROVEN otherwise. And tiff better stay the fuck outa this one

If he did get busted then he is a busted scammer.
 
Not to be the grammer/vocabulary police but the overuse of an ill defined word like "scammer" has led to it being meaningless.
Like @Raider72 said we should try to make statments with greater meaning.
I have bought both good and not so good products from Astro, I would not call him a scammer but it does appear his ship is going down and without some major corrective action there will be people that will lose there money and waste there time on shit gear.

Not recommended to buy or use Astro gear (unless tested) till these issues are resolved.
 
I think because he has always had the reputation for fixing fuck ups he was given a longer leash than most, and more time to fix it. Which he did not do.
 
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