Ozzy619
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That sucks man, looks like everyone is getting shitty raws. Hopefully the bioniche is still good.
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ruckin
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Damn that sucks man. I was just about to order from him too. Looks like I'll be holding off for a little while until this gets sorted out. Thanks for posting this.
Not good at all!
Don't be so quick to blame china... seriously - it would be like a Columbian cocaine factory putting out cut cocaine... the fucking cut would probably cost them double what the fucking coke costs.
I'm sure it's not apples to apples- maybe the hormones cost more to produce- maybe? A lot more pit stops manufacturing heroin or coke, plus international forces raiding factories....
Point is some scumfuck dealer is too lazy to test raws OR is putting half the powder in for DOUBLE fucking profits. Don't help them out by saying LOUSY CHINA. Fuck their (ugl's) lousy qc.
I'm sure it's not apples to apples- maybe the hormones cost more to produce- maybe? A lot more pit stops manufacturing heroin or coke, plus international forces raiding factories....
Point is some scumfuck dealer is too lazy to test raws OR is putting half the powder in for DOUBLE fucking profits. Don't help them out by saying LOUSY CHINA. Fuck their (ugl's) lousy qc.
weighted chinup
Well-known Member
I'm glad you mentioned testing / qc. Didn't Astro talk about how he tests his suppliers, batches are going to be adjusted for purity / conc, MS/HPLC is being conducted etc. I felt that his 'rigorous QC' talk was almost used as a selling point...but whatever.
This result seems to indicate a lack of QC. Surely if things were being tested sufficiently this wouldn't have happened.
This result seems to indicate a lack of QC. Surely if things were being tested sufficiently this wouldn't have happened.
jonsal
New Member
I must have asked 5 times in his thread if the gear was labled based on actual dose. He had advised that this would take place based on testing. Of course, I never heard back. Others asked to, and were ignored. Astro, if you can finally answer my question, thst would be great. (Not sure how to tag)
HandyManny
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When abouts did you make this test purchase??
nophat
Subscriber
Its not always the raws !
Look at my mistake with testE.
Look at my mistake with testE.
preworkout1984
New Member
So really what it comes down too is that the Test from astro was low so in turn you didn't get the results you normally would have had, correct? Is that what I'm gathering from this
dper726
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that test score is shitty as shit brother
preworkout1984
New Member
Nice
Sorry. Can't help myself!
Ozzy619
Well-known Member
I was quick to blame china too until I read this, has to be the best explanation and analogy Ive seen.
dmt31
New Member
I don't get it. These guys, at least the bigger UGL's, must be ordering 100's of grams of raws at a time right? Probably more than that. It never crosses there mind to take that little bit of extra time to try and test out each batch that comes in? They're making something ridiculous like 40x or more in profit per vial, and they're producing thousands of vials in theory per batch of raws. I just don't understand how this isn't just standard practice for the bigger UGL's. It defies any logic. They literally couldn't give a flying fuck about quality control, and they don't even pretend to, which is the funny part.
Kody
New Member
What if in theory, that our leap of faith in buying gear from a ugl, expecting greatness but mostly receiving bullshit.. Is the same for them when buying raws? More than likely they are also taking a flying leap at nothing, sometimes receiving pure shit, and other times getting cut with half fake shit.
(Did lot of cocaine when younger, seems to be about the same situation when purchasing a powder blindly, how do you test it before cash it swapped? You don't)
johnnyBALLZ
Well-known Member
Not our problem.. They can test the shit if they want to, most don't.
jonsal
New Member
Exactly. They are not the end user. They can test before selling if they felt like it.
Kody
New Member
I'm not exactly sure how long the Ugl market has been around, but to me it seems to be taking a turn for the worse. Seeing nothing but horrible results lately, well, severely underdosed results.
jonsal
New Member
And I mean in all fairness anybody can get bunk raws anybody, but there's no reason to brew and sell bunk product when you have the ability to test your batches.
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