Good stuff on this thread. I like the JS Rows too. But for those of us who are sporting a broken lower back these days I've grown fond of the dumbell row. I do it in JS fashion though. I'll add these comments about back training: 1. because of the strength curve involved in compound back movements I think accelerated reps with free weights make most sense. That doesn't mean jerking. It means a controlled acceleartion on the positive with a slow negative. 2. To get past the neuro-fatigue factor of hard ass back work, I like to pack on some volume in my back routines with lower loads after the heavy stuff. In fact, I'll do more volume here than for any other muscle group. Otherwise, I don't feel a training effect. This is partly due to the lack of a good lat and terres major prestretch in pulling moves. That's different then say the chest that can get blasted with a handful of sets because of the extreme stretch you get in pressing.You'll find that after your hard pull movement, such as rows and weighted chins you'll get a muscle rebound effect on other lighter exercises, such as cable rows and pulldowns or even some unweighted pullups with different grips. I have found that this combination of heavy accelerated pulling (vertical and horizontal) followed by lighter and slower "finishers" such as unweighted chins, or some cable crap actually works well. Just my $.02
