I wonder sometimes. The greek-to-geek factor here, and which end it comes from. Or is it just geek-to-freak? Me being the lesser end of the equation? LOL
The reason I disserted the specs on the cyp, was that you inferred that BA was never included in finished medical products at more than 3%.?!?!?
I am assuming we are working with a 100% BA solution for the discussion of the use and DILUTION of BA in finished pharmacological products?? I am assuming when one purchases a 'bottle of BA' for experimental purpose, they are getting a bottle of 100%BA? Correct? So this is what we are talking about right? how much to use as properly diluted into a given finished solution?..?...
The preceding clarification DRIVEN BY - IDMD has chimed in and further convolutes the subject making me think there is some superior point about the strength of the BA considered here.?!?! Such as (for example) Isorpyl, ehtel, whatever begin sold as 70, 90, or 100%?? I dont think this is the case, but the be clear, the context to which I refer is a 100% BA solution as the principle which we are then adding 1,3, or 5% depending on the subject. HOW MUCH OF IT DO YOU ADD to get BAC water.?? Correct.
So interesting to break the term down...
BacterioSTATIC water.
FIRST - we must denote again the interesting GREEK origins of design as simplicity and CONNOTATION of our language:
- "bacterio" implying relating to bacteria.
- "Static" implying NON-Changing. Again not designed to KILL bacteria, but prevent proliferation upon incidental contamination with bacteria.
The medipedia definition is weak at best...
Clinical:Bacteriostatic water (Water - Medpedia)
INTERESTINGLY I DO NOTE AN ANOMALY TO MY THOUGHT....
Bacteriostatic Water for Injection, USP is a sterile, nonpyrogenic preparation of water for injection containing 0.9% (9 mg/mL)(??!) of benzyl alcohol added as a bacteriostatic preservative. It is supplied in a multiple-dose container from which repeated withdrawals may be made to dilute or dissolve drugs for injection. The pH is 5.7 (4.5 to 7.0).
CLEARLY, This is probably similar to most tap water. PH is underratted for sure, ESPECIALLY with regard to the action of the body. Apparently Antipesto is also around 5.6, but suprisingly, the data I am reading says a Golden deliscious apple is down around 3.6..! Wow...
Perhaps we should check the PH of any steril water purchased as "distilled"?!?!? I wonder the effects on the preservation.??.
Further is this definition fucked? Or are we getting back to the molarity of a given BA solution as marketed as strickly BA in a bottle. When did MILLIGRAMS start RELATING TO MILILITERS?!?!?
http://www.medical-and-lab-supplies.com/chemicals-solvents/benzyl-alcohol-usp/benzyl-alcohol-usp-1-liter-33-8oz.html
This link does not discern the CONCENTRATION...
"technical grade" = 99.5% Pure as follows:
Benzyl Alcohol - Benzyl Alcohol Manufacturer, Benzyl Alcohol Exporter and Benzyl Alcohol Supplier
Interestingly - "perfumery Grade" exists. I looks similar to my layman self.
Benzyl Alcohol Compound - Benzyl Alcohol Solvent and Benzyl Alcohol Chemical Compound
So I am guessing when someone buys BA to mix with steroids and associated, they are buying almost 100% BA, and then mixing to desired concentration.
So lets pretend we are in a department store for a minute and discussing the diffrence between a MARKUP and a MARKDOWN...
if you have a 100ML (example) 100% solution of STERYL WATER and want to get a solution that is 1%BA and 99%WATER. RIGHT - You cant just add 1ml of 99.5% BA, cause now you are dealing with 101mls. you got to add 1.01MLs and a smidge more as the full derivative calculated. You could further split the hair of the missing .05% from the BA as a base. LOL Or you can just cut the chase as add 1.2 mls of BA to 100mls of water.
ITS REALLY APPLES AND APPLES - in that NONE of it is designed to STERILIZE, only protect. HOWEVER, I do not think it should be discounted the MINIMAL NATURE OF 1%, and that there MUST be a reason for this. And I suspect related to the volatility of the BA and the potential for the alcohol to DAMAGE VARIOUS things potentially added.
AGAIN and unanswered.
1. It would be interesting to know if 1% has a "pickeling effect" or acts as a PRESERVATIVE to the HCG from OXIDIZATION. After all, BA is DESCRIBED as a "preservative" in many instances. As well as a SOLVENT, and and Anesthetic..... So the million dollar question is - does the BA actually EXTEND the LIFE of the HCG (or whatever you mix it with), and by preventing the breakdown? AND OUTSIDE of the protective nature of not letting rogue bacteria grow readily? or is it just a protectant for the user? I would tend to think that the BA NOT ONLY defends against bacteria, which would most likely NOT act on/interact with the HCG, I would suspect that mixing alcholol in the solution would SUBDUE OXIDIZATION OF THE MOLECULAR STRUCTURE OF THE HCG its self. But NOW you are getting hard core chemistry and bordering of discussion of polarity of HCG and just what happend when you mix the two by themselves in a vacuum, as well as shades between. Obviously water and HCG are pretty equally polar, and we know alcohol is usually neutral. but what is the actual interaction...?
SO WHY THE BAC WATER WITH HCG ANYWAY? MY GUESS would be that BECAUSE an HCG SINGLE DOSE AMPULE is also provided with BAC water and for a single injection; we can DEDUCE the following:
1.
We know it is not a solvent, at least for the pupose of getting it to LOOK like the powder has diluted. It is likely it is somewhat of a solvent to keep the powder fluid longer in the body, but I would not bet on that.
2. So is it strictly for anesthetic purpose? Maybe. But the pain assoicated with a straight up HCG and water solution is not that negligeable. Or could that depend on what tiny nerve it lands on?
Does medical science really care that much about "her pleasure"... LOL
3. What would be the purpose of using it as an antibacterial
in a one shot dose?!? THERE IS NONE....
4.
OR - Is HCG SO DAMN SENSATIVE TO OXYGEN, that just displacing it in water will completely nullify its inherent value on mixing?!?! Just what does the difference become when one even blasts the water in to mix it up airating severely, or slowley trickle the water in? I wonder what the directions say even? Is the one shot dose overamped to compensate for this type shrinkage? How would you mix yours for long term use?!
Does medical science sit back and CHUCKLY at the bufoonery we lament...?!
I am leaning toward #4 believe it or not....
I digress...
A FINAL NOTE: Is this evidence of medical sciences AGAIN clear failure in research related to hormone application.? Has HCG EVER even been medically acknowledged as more than a one shot egg drop tool?!?!?!? Clearly HCG is prepared in an oxygen proof vacuumed ampule because IT IS DELICATE and EXTREMELY SENSITIVE TO OXYGEN. If.... It turns out that HCG does not just go to pieces in the presence of alcohol solutions in excess of 1%, WHAT WOULD THE CORRECT PERCENTAGE BE FOR ONE MONTH OR LONGER PRESERVATION IN THE FRIDGE? Would 5% preserve it that much longer? Perhaps? Is the entire hormone replacement medical field stranded on the side of the road like BITCHEZ with their THUMBS UP and the RED LIGHT ON..?[
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Fukin NightCrawlerz....
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With difference BBC you seem quite knowledgeable but often loose me, and others I suspect, in your tangential discussion. I mean did you review the specs of the T-C FROM SANDOZ PHARMACEUTICALS I included in my post?
The Benzyl Alcohol listed as a "preservative" is utilized as a ONE PERCENT solution! However, it's also quite possible I'm not understanding your question or comment my friend??
Regards
Jim
