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mattox

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Pretty sure I'm gonna get some hate for this post. Been lurking and learning in the forums.

50 y/o male, 67", 141lbs down from 185, approximately 12% BF. Accomplished over 8 months with 140mg Test E/week, 2.5mg Tirzepatide/week and hella hard work in the gym.

Now that I'm where I want to be with regards to BF, been contemplating bumping my Test to 500mg/week as a first cycle attempt to add lean mass. I don't want to get hugh; want to stay lean/fast/strong to be able to run and gun.

Decided to try some hGH for anti-aging benefits. Ordered UGL (happy to provide source just don't want to get banned for naming if that's not allowed by noobs) from a source I've seen discussed on the forums as being legit. Product arrived yesterday.

10IU vial, mixed with 1ml BAC, want to try 1IU/day. About an hour before bed, drew .1ml and injected subcutaneously in abdominal fat.

About 1 hour later, sweating profusely, shivering almost uncontrollably, super nauseous thinking I've just killed myself. Lasted about an hour before I was able to fall asleep. Slept like crap, but feel fine this morning other than maybe a little jittery - possibly from just scaring the shit out of myself.

The lab report that came with the product indicated everything was as represented. I'm contemplating the need to send a vial to Janoshik. Before I do, I'm wondering if anyone has ever experienced or heard of a reaction like what I'm describing?


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mattox said:
Pretty sure I'm gonna get some hate for this post. Been lurking and learning in the forums.

50 y/o male, 67", 141lbs down from 185, approximately 12% BF. Accomplished over 8 months with 140mg Test E/week, 2.5mg Tirzepatide/week and hella hard work in the gym.

Now that I'm where I want to be with regards to BF, been contemplating bumping my Test to 500mg/week as a first cycle attempt to add lean mass. I don't want to get hugh; want to stay lean/fast/strong to be able to run and gun.

Decided to try some hGH for anti-aging benefits. Ordered UGL (happy to provide source just don't want to get banned for naming if that's not allowed by noobs) from a source I've seen discussed on the forums as being legit. Product arrived yesterday.

10IU vial, mixed with 1ml BAC, want to try 1IU/day. About an hour before bed, drew .1ml and injected subcutaneously in abdominal fat.

About 1 hour later, sweating profusely, shivering almost uncontrollably, super nauseous thinking I've just killed myself. Lasted about an hour before I was able to fall asleep. Slept like crap, but feel fine this morning other than maybe a little jittery - possibly from just scaring the shit out of myself.

The lab report that came with the product indicated everything was as represented. I'm contemplating the need to send a vial to Janoshik. Before I do, I'm wondering if anyone has ever experienced or heard of a reaction like what I'm describing?


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well you should've introduced yourself to the community in "the NEW MEMBER " thread , which is proper protocol around Meso Rx,,
 
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Forum Etiquette Thread '⚡Welcome to the MESO-Rx Forum. New Members ⭐️PLEASE READ⭐️'

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The MESO-Rx Forum is comprised of 25 subforums. The subforums cover a wide variety of topics related to the world of anabolic steroids, performance, and performance-enhancing drugs with an emphasis on minimizing the associated harm and risk.

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What bac water? Vendor's?
 
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Welcome to the MESO-Rx Forum community! I want to take the opportunity to offer a brief overview of the MESO Forum.

The MESO-Rx Forum is comprised of 25 subforums. The subforums cover a wide variety of topics related to the world of anabolic steroids, performance, and performance-enhancing drugs with an emphasis on minimizing the associated harm and risk.

Each subforum has a different focus. For example:

The "Steroid Forum" subforum emphasizes the use of anabolic steroids to increase muscle size, strength and performance;

The "Human Growth Hormone and...
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No, sir; not from the vendor. I keep a supply of BAC water on hand for reconstituting other peptides I've experimented with. I opened a new bottle for the hGH.
 

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I'm a fan of Dragon Pharma, but would not buy any peptides from them(or any major "retail" UGL. Too long of a supply chain, sitting around, degrading into god knows what). They're not manufacturing it, just reselling it.

To be blunt, it sounds like you either had a panic attack or, some type of reaction commonly seen with vaccines, where those symptoms are often reported.

If you want to play it safe, I suggest getting some new hgh from a reputable vendor you can find in the Underground forum.
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If you try it again, don't exceed the same dose and see what happens,
 
Ghoul said:
I'm a fan of Dragon Pharma, but would not buy any peptides from them(or any major "retail" UGL. Too long of a supply chain, sitting around, degrading into god knows what.

To be blunt, it sounds like you either had a panic attack or, some type of reaction commonly seen with vaccines, where those symptoms are often reported.

If you want to play it safe, I suggest getting some new hgh from a reputable vendor you can find in the Underground forum.
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If you try it again, don't exceed the same dose and see
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This is super helpful! Thanks very much! I hear what you're saying about an panic attack. Although I've never had one in my life, I won't discount it as a possibility. Your theory about a vaccine type immune response though seems more plausible. I've experimented with quite a few peptides and have never had issue freaking out when I feel the affects coming on (looking at you NAD+, Oxytocin, Melanoma 2!).

This was just so unexpected, man. I was starting to doze off and it literally jolted me out of bed.

You guys have been really helpful. Can't tell you how much I appreciate it. You're confirming at least what I was thinking that what I experienced was not normal.

@Ateam2023 thanks for your patience with me. You have my word I'll be more cautious about following proper protocols going forward.
 
mattox said:
This is super helpful! Thanks very much! I hear what you're saying about an panic attack. Although I've never had one in my life, I won't discount it as a possibility. Your theory about a vaccine type immune response though seems more plausible. I've experimented with quite a few peptides and have never had issue freaking out when I feel the affects coming on (looking at you NAD+, Oxytocin, Melanoma 2!).

This was just so unexpected, man. I was starting to doze off and it literally jolted me out of bed.

You guys have been really helpful. Can't tell you how much I appreciate it. You're confirming at least what I was thinking that what I experienced was not normal.

@Ateam2023 thanks for your patience with me. You have my word I'll be more cautious about following proper protocols going forward.
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No worries, Welcome to Meso,,
 
Very strange. I would toss it. If you're curious send it to jano, but I would just buy from a well known peptide vendor and move on. There are some good sources here.

1iu is fine to test your reaction but I'd say 2iu is minimum dose worth taking. That is unless you know you produce less than 1iu naturally, which is unlikely but possible.

Congratulations on the transformation and hard work. Good on you for using reasonable doses and being smart about your protocols.
 
Fellas, I'm still researching this. Found something and wanted to follow up in case someone else finds this thread one day.

I take Tirzepatide, albeit a low dose of 2.5mg / week. Researching Genotropin, I saw it had a "moderate" interaction with Tirzepatide in that it can affect blood glucose. The primary concern would be that hGH would increase blood glucose essentially overriding the effects of Tirzepatide.

This made me look at the common symptoms of hyper and hypoglycemia.

While I can't imagine that hypoglycemia would've been what I experienced, the symptoms are dead on with what I had.

I trashed the product as a lab test from Jano would cost as much as I paid for the product. If I ever do decide to take the plunge again, I'll be sure to order a pharma grade pen and have my blood glucose monitor out and ready.
 

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mattox said:
Fellas, I'm still researching this. Found something and wanted to follow up in case someone else finds this thread one day.

I take Tirzepatide, albeit a low dose of 2.5mg / week. Researching Genotropin, I saw it had a "moderate" interaction with Tirzepatide in that it can affect blood glucose. The primary concern would be that hGH would increase blood glucose essentially overriding the effects of Tirzepatide.

This made me look at the common symptoms of hyper and hypoglycemia.

While I can't imagine that hypoglycemia would've been what I experienced, the symptoms are dead on with what I had.

I trashed the product as a lab test from Jano would cost as much as I paid for the product. If I ever do decide to take the plunge again, I'll be sure to order a pharma grade pen and have my blood glucose monitor out and ready.
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Possible, but seems very unlikely that you could have such a strong response to 1iu. Are you certain that your vials are 10iu and that you injected only 1iu? I'm not trying to say you are making things up or anything like that. What happened Is very odd for the dose you're describing. My guess is that something is wrong with the product. But if you get product from another vendor and try the same thing, you should get your answer whether it was the product or that you react very poorly to GH.
 
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Possible, but seems very unlikely that you could have such a strong response to 1iu. Are you certain that your vials are 10iu and that you injected only 1iu? I'm not trying to say you are making things up or anything like that. What happened Is very odd for the dose you're describing. My guess is that something is wrong with the product. But if you get product from another vendor and try the same thing, you should get your answer whether it was the product or that you react very poorly to GH.
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Without testing, I cannot be 100% certain the vial was 10IU; however, I reached back out to the vendor to confirm because that's the first thing I considered. This was a 10 vial kit and each vial says "10 x 10IU" which to me says the vial contains 100IU. The vendor replied that, indeed, each vial is only 10IU and the whole kit was 100IU. Also, their attached lab report indicated a vial was 10IU, although slightly overdosed.

Absolutely sure I pulled 1IU. While this is my first go with GH, I've been reconstituting and using a myriad of other peptides for about a year. I fully understand solutions/concentrations/dosing.
 
mattox said:
Without testing, I cannot be 100% certain the vial was 10IU; however, I reached back out to the vendor to confirm because that's the first thing I considered. This was a 10 vial kit and each vial says "10 x 10IU" which to me says the vial contains 100IU. The vendor replied that, indeed, each vial is only 10IU and the whole kit was 100IU. Also, their attached lab report indicated a vial was 10IU, although slightly overdosed.

Absolutely sure I pulled 1IU. While this is my first go with GH, I've been reconstituting and using a myriad of other peptides for about a year. I fully understand solutions/concentrations/dosing.
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**Buy some Serostim and shoot 1 IU. That will tell you something for a baseline.

** entertainment purposes only. Not medical advice. ;)
 
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