Bad Test C Raws??

[trenaddik]

I've read the esters can separate after a while so your need to brew it all at once to get the proper mix.

meh im not even gonna try it. It was from a Lab here Ciraws. They have been offline for a while now. Reviews were good for steroids raws but not HGH. Anyway.. Just gonna find a new lab and throw this one in the garbage or sell it for cheap haha. 200 grams of sust wasted

 

[Ghoul]

Hahahaha wow this is a new one @DECLAN

Everyone welcome "American", it's his 3 week MESO anniversary, and he's our new content quality control moderator.

 

[DECLAN]

Hahahaha wow this is a new one @DECLAN

All they need to do is use the search button, someone already tested and found the culprit of the pip. And no, it’s not what ghoul is saying. I’ll find it later.

 

[Ghoul]

All they need to do is use the search button, someone already tested and found the culprit of the pip. And no, it’s not what ghoul is saying. I’ll find it later.

I said I *read* it, I didn't present it as a fact or suggest I knew it with certainty.

 

[DECLAN]

I said I *read* it, I didn't present it as a fact or suggest I knew it with certainty.

Got it. Thanks.

 

[DECLAN]

meh im not even gonna try it. It was from a Lab here Ciraws. They have been offline for a while now. Reviews were good for steroids raws but not HGH. Anyway.. Just gonna find a new lab and throw this one in the garbage or sell it for cheap haha. 200 grams of sust wasted

Just for reference, I got some sust from qsc a year or so ago and no pip. However, straight test E has been hit and miss for more than a decade now, hence, most of us home brewers have switched to cyp and other esters.

 

[trenaddik]

Just for reference, I got some sust from qsc a year or so ago and no pip. However, straight test E has been hit and miss for more than a decade now, hence, most of us home brewers have switched to cyp and other esters.

You want more ? Hahahaha. Its all clumped up. I dont trust that hahaha. getting rid of it for cheap

 

[Soosh]

Test E seems to degrade into compounds that cause pain, inflammation, and irritation. I suspect it does this even once brewed.

All compounds degrade at one rate or another, but Test E has had a reputation for several years now of degrading into an unpleasant to use substance.

Test C doesn't seem to have this issue.

TBH I don't know why anyone bothers with this ester any more, when there are very close alternatives.

Any idea why this issue doesn't happen with pharm grade test e like aburaihan?

 

[Ghoul]

Got it. Thanks.

Take it up with the original source, I simply presented it as a possibility for consideration.

Sustanon raw powder, cook all together for more accurate testosterone ester mixing?

Hey guys, the last 2x I have ordered sustanon and brewed up several batches, it’s usually the last batch I brew before I have to re up where people start getting PIP. The first couple batches are always smoother than butter with no post injection pain, but the last 2x where it’s the last batch...

thinksteroids.com

 

[Ghoul]

Any idea why this issue doesn't happen with pharm grade test e like aburaihan?

No Benzyl Alcohol probably explains the lack of (or much lower) PIP. A Terminally Sterilized ampule shouldn't require a preservative.

Benzyl Alcohol is only needed if it's a multi dose vial because bacteria will enter through multiple punctures (if not already there from non-aseptic production).

Let's check with @American and @DECLAN

 

[DECLAN]

No Benzyl Alcohol probably explains the lack of (or much lower) PIP. A Terminally Sterilized ampule shouldn't require a preservative.

Benzyl Alcohol is only needed if it's a multi dose vial because bacteria will enter through multiple punctures (if not already there from non-aseptic production).

Let's check with @American and @DECLAN

Don’t be a passive aggressive child, I never call you out if you’re not making absurd claims. I even agree with you, don’t make every thread around here about your drama.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Don’t be a passive aggressive child, I never call you out if you’re not making absurd claims. I even agree with you, don’t make every thread around here about your drama.

someone else used to do this, tag people, and tag the admin.

 

[iris]

@DECLAN and @Ghoul

See you in a few days, maybe, or next week.
Will miss you and the fabulousness that belongs to you both.
By the weekend, all the drama will be over.
Not sure, exactly, which weekend before the end of the century it will be, but it’s happening.

Apologies for the load of notifications you'll get in one go.
If it's a hassle, pm and I will refrain, when I get back here.

Love you guys.

 

[DECLAN]

someone else used to do this, tag people, and tag the admin.

I know right, lol.

 

[DECLAN]

Δ6-testosterone enanthate

A supposedly very PIP inducing raw powder of testosterone enanthate has been received. Analysis for heptanoic acid yielded negative result, so I decided to dig deeper and a massive contamination of testosterone enanthate with.... testosterone enanthate was found. However not the usual kind...

thinksteroids.com

Some hypothesized there’s impurities in the raws, either heptanoic or carbolic acid. Nottom line is avoid test E for now, there are more options out there.

 

[narta]

No Benzyl Alcohol probably explains the lack of (or much lower) PIP. A Terminally Sterilized ampule shouldn't require a preservative

PIP is an individual thing, BA content has little to nothing to do with it. I have used year with 20% ba (because I f up the brew and though it was bb) no pip whatsoever.

Test E pip has something to do with the process of production and leftovers that are highly acidic. I think @janoshik run some tests and found test e residudes but nothing conclusive

 

[Soosh]

I personally was not just getting pip or lumps from test e but full blown infections. Then oddly enough tried pharma and no issues.

 

[narta]

I personally was not just getting pip or lumps from test e but full blown infections. Then oddly enough tried pharma and no issues.

Dirty gear

 

[alfanot]

Can anyone answer if some moisture gets into the raws and it clumps up that it will cause problems even after brewing at a high enough temp to evaporate it and going through filters?

 

[Astartes]

Most moisture can be fixed by brewing at _low_ temps in a magnetic stirrer for 1-3 hours. (Which you should be doing anyway)

People candidly use way too high temps to dissolve their hormones. Oxidization occurs and then they wonder why they have to overdose their gear and get PIP.

Yes. Use oxygen and water absorbers. Double vacuum seal (or triple in my OCD case) and freeze. Yes _freeze_ for long term storage.