baseball and steroids...vets a little insight

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a good friend of mine is playing college baseball, he has always been the best athlete back in highschool, he is now playing college ball and he needs to step it up....he has a few scouts looking at him seriously...so now is his time..

i need some advice on what would be the best stack to increase stength, speed, etc..without adding to much weight to slow him down

this would be his first cycle so there would be no reason to go overboard and since we would be using short halflives we can easily adjust his cycle if his gains are not comming like they should

this is what i was thinking:

8-10 weeks test prop 100 mgs eod.....
8-10 weeks tren ace 100 mgs eod...
l-dex .25 eod or 10 mgs nolv eod
PCT

he is 5'11 200-205 12% bodyfat (keep in mind..baseball roid stack )

what are you opinions...?
do you think a tren only cycle would be better suited for baseball....since mark marguire and others were bascially taking just tren from Balco..?

just please give me some insight and also even post what cycle you think he should do..

EVEN if you have no insight please keep this bumped to the top for me...


thanks bros

 

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19 views no replies.....someone give a little insight

 

[skyking]

im no vet but i have done tren but it self for 3 weeks a while back and bro it fucked with me hard you need test as a base in any cycle , i think the test tren will be nice while staying with the short eters you can change the milligram if your friend want more gains , but fuck 205 at 12% isnt that bad i would suggest some eca, clen and just a good diet and he will def improve his speed by keeping his muscle while loosing bodyfat bro just my thoughts though , also in my opinion if this is his first cycle i would go with test and EQ , the Tren might be to much for him if he has never used drop to 50mg -75mg ed peace bro Skyking

 

[madman]

Well, I had a friend do the same thing and it helped.

I ran him on Test and winny. You can't add a lot of mass to his frame or he'll lose mobility. My guy gained 8lbs. total after everything.

If he has cash 4IU of HGH ed will help out too.

 

[skyking]

sorry bro i meant 75mg tren eod..

 

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see i would have him do test and winny but his joints are not that great after playing sports all his life...

i would not want to further any existing joint probelms by adding winny....

please any other bros give advice....

Well, I had a friend do the same thing and it helped.

I ran him on Test and winny. You can't add a lot of mass to his frame or he'll lose mobility. My guy gained 8lbs. total after everything.

If he has cash 4IU of HGH ed will help out too.

 

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bump for more advice

 

[Tank01]

GH, low dose deca (300mg-400mg per week), Test enth, or anavar


GH: good for joints, ligaments, tendons, ect ect
Deca: Increases synovil fluid the best out of all aas (lubes the joints)
Test or Var: to provide some sort of strenght (more of an androgenic compound)

I would recomened against prop... this could possibly fuck him over big time as it hurts like a mo fo for some people... I being one of them.. its disabling... Enth goes in like butter and is only mildly annoying.. you can feel it a day later or so.. kinda like you are sore or somthing... with prop it felt like my whole fuckin arms and legs were going to fall off... i couldnt walk ... couldnt lift my arms to paralell..

Idealy... I would do Gh (3-4iu ED), Deca (3000400mg per week), Test E (500mg per week) or Anavar (30-40mg per week).

If it were me.. Id go with anavar over test... I could care less about my sex drive... especialy if I was trying to get to a certain condition like your buddy is... he has more important things to worry about than sex... sex comes later... work comes now.

reason i choose anavar is that it makes me hard as fuck, strong as fuck, and I feel great on it! I say no to test cuz its just another injection you have to worry about... and any sort of injection soreness will slow him down and fuck with his game... I hope this helps and best of luck to your buddy

Good luck,

 

[Tank01]

MIght as well toss some clen in the picture too... to help keep him amped up. if you cant spring for the GH then just go with the deca and test or var

later

 

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Thanks for the advice...
he does not have the money for GH...

prop was not that bad for me...but like you said everyone is different...and like you said it might fuck him over big time...

deca would not be a wise choice for my friend only because if he does make into the major leagues deca is dectable in your system up to 18 months, now since they are testing for steroids this would not be a good idea...thats why i ws leaning turns prop and tren becuase of the half lives...prop is out of your system in 2-3 weeks, and tren in 4-5 weeks...

maybe anavar would be a good choice...like you said

or low dose of enanthate with l-dex at .25 ed

all are possibilties

any more comments on a tren/ prop cycle ?

thanks for the help/ any more help

GH, low dose deca (300mg-400mg per week), Test enth, or anavar


GH: good for joints, ligaments, tendons, ect ect
Deca: Increases synovil fluid the best out of all aas (lubes the joints)
Test or Var: to provide some sort of strenght (more of an androgenic compound)

I would recomened against prop... this could possibly fuck him over big time as it hurts like a mo fo for some people... I being one of them.. its disabling... Enth goes in like butter and is only mildly annoying.. you can feel it a day later or so.. kinda like you are sore or somthing... with prop it felt like my whole fuckin arms and legs were going to fall off... i couldnt walk ... couldnt lift my arms to paralell..

Idealy... I would do Gh (3-4iu ED), Deca (3000400mg per week), Test E (500mg per week) or Anavar (30-40mg per week).

If it were me.. Id go with anavar over test... I could care less about my sex drive... especialy if I was trying to get to a certain condition like your buddy is... he has more important things to worry about than sex... sex comes later... work comes now.

reason i choose anavar is that it makes me hard as fuck, strong as fuck, and I feel great on it! I say no to test cuz its just another injection you have to worry about... and any sort of injection soreness will slow him down and fuck with his game... I hope this helps and best of luck to your buddy

Good luck,

 

[skyking]

i quess your leaning towards the prop ,tren but honestly is this cycle going to make him go to the big leagues, not likely i would focus more on training and diet let him use some m1t and maybe another pro hormone Damn bro 5'11 at 205 is not small i think your friend would be quicker if he lost bodyfat and sprinted more , if he dropped his bodyfat to 8% he would be alot quicker bro i would go with eca and clen with diet to improve his speed , you might be better with that and some anavar to keep his muscle and give him strenth like the bro above said why he is dieting.........Skyking

 

[borderbound]

it might help if we new what position(s) he played

and what would help him the most

or what part of his game needs the improvement

is he after more hits , or more extra base hits , homers , ect

im guessing he is a catcher or 2nd baseman or outfielder at his size

 

[Tank01]

deca would not be a wise choice for my friend only because if he does make into the major leagues deca is dectable in your system up to 18 months, now since they are testing for steroids this would not be a good idea...thats why i ws leaning turns prop and tren becuase of the half lives...prop is out of your system in 2-3 weeks, and tren in 4-5 weeks...

just making sure... but what about NPP.. .the fast acting deca???
you are right though about deca being in your system for so long... good point indeed. I would deffinitly go with anavar... maybe masteron??? you could try prop and tren... not a bad idea.. just watch out for the pain with the prop


maybe anavar would be a good choice...like you said

what about getting him on some IGF1... that isnt a bad idea



or low dose of enanthate with l-dex at .25 ed

this is good too.. but watch out for that long ester...



any more comments on a tren/ prop cycle ?

I hate prop

 

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centerfielder...needs to be a little quicker

he already has a lot of batting power..but he would like a little more..guessing more homers..

and skyking
you have to understand how talented my friend is, and that the scouts are seriously looking at him, this might or might not give him the edge he needs to get picked up by a big league team...but m-1-t and prohormones are poor advice for my friend..most will just bloat him up, and with "almost" all of them the negatives far outweigh the positives

thanks bros

 

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i was thinking about NPP...but i have done a NPP cycle before with prop and did not think it was all that great....i will look into the halflives

leaning towards anavar now...also since dude2003 is running such a nice sale on it..

i would run an enathate cycle with l-dex but it stays in your system for 3 months.. i will check how much time we have to work with...

your right about the prop pain especially when he needs to be sprinting around all day...

thanks again for the advice tank ...

deca would not be a wise choice for my friend only because if he does make into the major leagues deca is dectable in your system up to 18 months, now since they are testing for steroids this would not be a good idea...thats why i ws leaning turns prop and tren becuase of the half lives...prop is out of your system in 2-3 weeks, and tren in 4-5 weeks...

just making sure... but what about NPP.. .the fast acting deca???
you are right though about deca being in your system for so long... good point indeed. I would deffinitly go with anavar... maybe masteron??? you could try prop and tren... not a bad idea.. just watch out for the pain with the prop


maybe anavar would be a good choice...like you said

what about getting him on some IGF1... that isnt a bad idea



or low dose of enanthate with l-dex at .25 ed

this is good too.. but watch out for that long ester...



any more comments on a tren/ prop cycle ?

I hate prop

 

[Peace Division]

I believe half-life and detection times are mutually exclusive. For example; it's the metabolites of durabolin that they are testing for, so the ester does not matter in detection times. And I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm mistaken.

If it was me, I'd go with some combo of test, igf, and gh. If he's got scouts lookin' at him then it might be worth his while to fork over the cha-ching for the GH. If he's D1, then I'm assuming he gets tested, and since school is in session he probably will get tested at some point. And I would probably go with prop or susp at the doses you gave, cuz if he gets a week's notice about a test (I had a friend who was D1 wrestler and he was usually given 3-7 days notice), he could stop his shots and his test ratios SHOULD be ok. But if he's runnin' cyp or enanth, then he's probably screwed. Just my 2cc's.

 

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keepin it at the top for the night crew

I believe half-life and detection times are mutually exclusive. For example; it's the metabolites of durabolin that they are testing for, so the ester does not matter in detection times. And I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm mistaken.

If it was me, I'd go with some combo of test, igf, and gh. If he's got scouts lookin' at him then it might be worth his while to fork over the cha-ching for the GH. If he's D1, then I'm assuming he gets tested, and since school is in session he probably will get tested at some point. And I would probably go with prop or susp at the doses you gave, cuz if he gets a week's notice about a test (I had a friend who was D1 wrestler and he was usually given 3-7 days notice), he could stop his shots and his test ratios SHOULD be ok. But if he's runnin' cyp or enanth, then he's probably screwed. Just my 2cc's.

 

[muslhead]

Dont mean to hijack the thread but can you provide some advice for me. One of my close bros is on the shuffleboard team and needs to know what aas to use. LOL

I was unaware that certain AAS and specific cycles were suited only for specific sports. At a miniumum before answering shouldnt someone want to know what position the guy plays before providing some sort of advice?

Being a pitcher I think my goals from using AAS would differ from a power hitting fielder.

My 02. it matters not the compound so much as what is eaten and how one trains while on.

MH

 

[Scottish]

BUMP for a good ass question by Pumped101. By the way does test suspention or cyp. hurt less than Test Prop? If so couldn't your man use that instead of Test prop in his Tren/Test cycle.

 

[skyking]

prop does not hurt me at all and pumped i no several bro's who have not done any cycles and have tried the 1- test and 4ad made by methyl and gained 10 -15 pounds of that alone but mind you they had no priar exp. with aas, so i no it works and they did not bloat up....I would just go with the test prop and tren and watch his diet this will be good for him and if you want drop the tren and get some fast acting eq this will be good for his joints too and if he had the money some gh but you said gh was out of the question because of funds ......Skyking . Tell your bro i said good luck i hope he makes it ......Peace......