Battleplan

[TitoGordo]

Newbie's Final Battleplan

Whats up guys,

After all of the advice I recieved, I decided on this plan. Please critique.

Weeks
1-2 750mg Sus ; 3-8 500mg Sus
1-4 25mg Dbol (ed)
4-8 ??mg Tren (ed)***

1-8 Clen/ECA 2on/off
1-4 Arimidex (??mg)
1-8 Nolvadex (??mg)---VERY gyno prone

PCT (Unsure of time tables!!)
HCG (??)***
Clomid (??mg)

***- Not Obtained as of Yet

I just wanted to post my official plan to begin this weekend. I know of everyones advice but wanted input on Tren, bigE, and PCT issues IN RELATION TO the amounts of other gear I plan to use. I want strength gains and BF loss on this cycle. Was also wondering if I could play basketball (seems to get me into best physical shape) for crosstraining/cardio while on this cycle without affecting my growth and gains. I can change my diet (calorie amt & type)throught the cycle depending on the amount and types of exercise I do. I say the more energy expended by my body, the more chance I have in achieving a total recomposition of my body.

Once again guys, thanks for your time.

 

[Sack]

Take The Tren Eod At 75 To 100mgs, And Your Pct Has To Be Right Because Sustanon Is Not Out Of Your System For 3 To 4 Weeks. So Start The Hcg And Clomid Exactly 21 Days After The Last 500mg Dose Of Sust. Everything Else Is Great.
Good Luck.

 

[highoutput]

Just to add i would take the armidex at .5mg/ed through out the cycle and pct and just have some nolva on hand. up the armidex if need be and if gyno sets in start the nolvadex and lay off the gear!

 

[AnabolicAnimal]

Whats up guys,

After all of the advice I recieved, I decided on this plan. Please critique.

Weeks
1-2 750mg Sus ; 3-8 500mg Sus
1-4 25mg Dbol (ed)
4-8 ??mg Tren (ed)***

1-8 Clen/ECA 2on/off
1-4 Arimidex (??mg)
1-8 Nolvadex (??mg)---VERY gyno prone

PCT (Unsure of time tables!!)
HCG (??)***
Clomid (??mg)

***- Not Obtained as of Yet

I just wanted to post my official plan to begin this weekend. I know of everyones advice but wanted input on Tren, bigE, and PCT issues IN RELATION TO the amounts of other gear I plan to use. I want strength gains and BF loss on this cycle. Was also wondering if I could play basketball (seems to get me into best physical shape) for crosstraining/cardio while on this cycle without affecting my growth and gains. I can change my diet (calorie amt & type)throught the cycle depending on the amount and types of exercise I do. I say the more energy expended by my body, the more chance I have in achieving a total recomposition of my body.

Once again guys, thanks for your time.

i could be off on this but i once read on this board that taking dbol and Arimidex can be slightly counterproductive to the effectiveness of dbol. something about the dbol's causeing water retention was needed in order for it to be optiumaly effective. but if you are extreamly prone to gyno i guess you got to do what yougot to do. the tren at 100mg eod would be good, as most would say ed injections of tren are probaly a little better then eod but if you dont mind doing ed injections why not just drop the sus and use prop as your test. you would be able to start PCT much much sooner. and also ever since reading a post off anabolicreview which made alot of sense as to why you should just use one single easter instead of a mixture of 4 that relase at differnt time thus you never know exaclty how much test your getting in one particualr week(the post actualy broke down the relases of sus and how the 30mg of prop from it gets wasted becasue that's released the fastest and clears the system and how the undeconate is relased at such and such, the bottom line was because of so many differnt release times you not getting nearly as much test at particular times as you would think.) and maybe it's just my love of tren but 4 weeks just doesn't seem like enough tren to me. i guess i'd live on the stuff year round if i could which probaly is the reason why 4 weeks seems like such a short time. if ed injections ain't much of a problem go with :

Weeks
1-8 100mg prop ed
1-4 25mg Dbol (ed)
1-8 75mg Tren (ed)
1-8 Nolvadex (40mg)---VERY gyno prone
? Arimidex (.5mg eod) (see how you look with regards to water retention, if it's not that bad why bother destroying more estrogen then needed)
just my opnion's see what others think as well.

 

[AshMan2000]

Instead of running the sust. at 750 for the first 2 weeks then lowering the dose,I'd just front load @ 800-1000mg the first week,then continue at 500mg for the following 7 weeks..
Run the tren @ 50mg per day for 5-6 weeks, I prefer to use the tren on my workout day's only due to it short life, I feel I get an increased pump running it on my workout days....
I'm not a big fan of arimidex due to it's negative effects on cholesterol,good estrogen,which can lead to many things including increased prolactin.......
Run the nolvadex @40mg per day for the first 3weeks of your cycle then lower it to 20mg for the duration of the cycle, unless gyno becomes an issue then continue @40 mg per day, You could just continue to use the nolvadex for your post cycle recovery by increasing the dose back to 40mg two weeks after your last injection and continuing to run it for 21 days.................... That's My 2cc

 

[TitoGordo]

Hey guys was wondering if anyone could help me in the gym as well on my post in the training forum. thanks