Beast(BST) Raws Pharma AAS raws USA/ Euro domestic supply

[Sampei]

Don't mean to be pedantic but a freezer will actually dry the contents

With thawing cycles and with the chance of being not perfectly sealed? Yeah not sure about that.

 

[readalot]

With thawing cycles and with the chance of being not perfectly sealed? Yeah not sure about that.

I'll spare the gory thermodynamic texts. In short, you are correct. Don't freezer burn your f'n raws!

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[Trenbolonetax]

From activation energy standpoint, just going with the fridge should be best bang for your buck (80/20 rule) if you have all residual moisture out of the raw and you've pulled vacuum. Avoids the potential freezing complications.

For a hypothetical 50 kJ/mol activation energy of thermal decomposition / "shelf degradation" (example figure for illustration but shouldn't be far off), every ten degrees C should increase effective shelf life by 2x. So just going with the fridge option will ensure your raws will outlive you by a bunch. Of course make sure you have removed humid air from the raw pack as you don't want condensate on the raws.

Yeah but what's the point when raws keep fine at room temp if properly sealed.... Are you planning to keep them for decades? If so yeah I would look for a dedicated deep freezer.

Awesome. Appreciate y’all input. The question was more theoretical and less practical application.

Kind of wanted to understand magnitude of shelf life difference in the couple different storage scenarios, so I appreciate your willingness to humor me, @readalot.

 

[Sampei]

From activation energy standpoint, just going with the fridge should be best bang for your buck (80/20 rule) if you have all residual moisture out of the raw and you've pulled vacuum. Avoids the potential freezing complications.

For a hypothetical 50 kJ/mol activation energy of thermal decomposition / "shelf degradation" (example figure for illustration but shouldn't be far off), every ten degrees C should increase effective shelf life by 2x. So just going with the fridge option will ensure your raws will outlive you by a bunch. Of course make sure you have removed humid air from the raw pack as you don't want condensate on the raws.

That's the thing, what if you have a small humidity in there or you lose the vacuum and so humid air start seeping in?

We have users reporting RAWS stored outside of fridge/freezer and still good to go after 15+ years.

To me it looks like is easier and with less points of failures to store them outside a fridge/freezer

Let's say you lose a few % of purity after 10/20 years. It's not really a big deal isn't it? You just adjust for the lost purity and that's it.

 

[readalot]

We have users reporting RAWS stored outside of fridge/freezer and still good to go after 15+ years.

Absolutely. Just discussing fridge vs freezer for the humidity concerns/frost.

Someone puts raw not properly under vacuum in the fridge and it sits in condensate for years. Not smart.