Becareful bros

[rjx]

..So you tell me why we went to war with IRaq?

That is so simple.
The answer is - To establish a long-term military presence in Iraq, in a move which will dramatically extend American power in the region and spread dismay and fear among its opponents across the Arab world.
&
Israel inspired America for killing three birds with one stone when we invaded Iraq which are spreading imperialism, ensuring protection of Israel and establishing control over oil exporting zone.

And for those that think i'm full of shit. Read PNAC.

 

[esco]

i think everybody can go round and round about republican vs. democrat .... pro this, anti that .... only thing i want to say is i would rather live no where else then in the USA. my father fought in vietnam & korea ... and the soldiers fighting today joined the service, knowing all well what risks that included. lastly whatever you believe or you want to argue freeedom of speech or what ever else, i just want to say ... IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE USA.

 

[maddzz]

The main problem with our government is that all the people in the senate and supreme court and so on have not had any real contact with the real world in 40 years. Strom Thurman or whatever his name was retired at like 100 years old. What could he possibly know about the problems of today. He is basing his decisions on what life was like in the 1920s (the last time he was actually in contact with "real" people). All these people lead incredibly sheltered lives and have no idea what the common man/woman of the country needs/wants. Once you turn 60 you should be forced out of government; by that age the times have passed you by.

 

[esco]

The main problem with our government is that all the people in the senate and supreme court and so on have not had any real contact with the real world in 40 years. Strom Thurman or whatever his name was retired at like 100 years old. What could he possibly know about the problems of today. He is basing his decisions on what life was like in the 1920s (the last time he was actually in contact with "real" people). All these people lead incredibly sheltered lives and have no idea what the common man/woman of the country needs/wants. Once you turn 60 you should be forced out of government; by that age the times have passed you by.

this is kinda off topic, but it makes me think of that commercial with all those old ass superheroes, and it says i think we need new superheroes, (or something like that)

 

[rjx]

IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE USA.

Lol

Its people like you that help put this mad man MR Bush into power. Man, I hope you don't think of yourself as patriotic with a comment like that.

So as an American if I don't like the shape America is in or how its being run, then get the fuck out? I wouldn't be surprised if you are one of the fake patriots that ran out and got a flag after 9/11 and stuck it on your car ... or some kind of bumper sticker or T-shirt pretending how great of an American you are.

Anyways, I need to correct you, cause I know you are probably a great person and that you don't like to be wrong. The correct answer is not to get the fuck out of the USA. The correct answer is . . . stay in the USA and try to make it a better place for everyone and not give up.

I except your apology bro.

 

[esco]

Lol

Its people like you that help put this mad man MR Bush into power. Man, I hope you don't think of yourself as patriotic with a comment like that.

So as an American if I don't like the shape America is in or how its being run, then get the fuck out? I wouldn't be surprised if you are one of the fake patriots that ran out and got a flag after 9/11 and stuck it on your car ... or some kind of bumper sticker or T-shirt pretending how great of an American you are.

Anyways, I need to correct you, cause I know you are probably a great person and that you don't like to be wrong. The correct answer is not to get the fuck out of the USA. The correct answer is . . . stay in the USA and try to make it a better place for everyone and not give up.

I except your apology bro. [/QUOT

first off i'd rather have bush then someone say, clinton, which maybe you voted for you made the size of our military equivalent to that of wwII. that's why we were being tested because we are not feared as a super power anymore.

secondly you second paragraph is kinda insulting, my loyalty to the USA is because of how i was raised and because my father, who was buried in arlington national cemetary with full honors.

lastly, i will agree that my presentation of get the F out was dumb ... i agree with we should make try and make it better ... i just get heated sometimes and it clouds reasonable thinking. thanks for the constructive criticism to help me clear my head.

 

[maxx]

i get so damn tired of how people bash pres. bush.what did the man do,beside go kick the shit out of a country that knowingly habored the terroist and one that killed thousands of his own people to test weapons that are or were designed to kill US!to all of you liberal monkeys out there,who do you think put the country in a resession?the democrates.who sign nafda,and let all our jobs leave the country.the democrates.what are they promising you now if they get elected?free health care?dream on.a pussy military,that would get its ass kick if we went to war with mexico?yes that you would have.gun control you have because they would take them,mark my word you will have to fight hard to keep you right to bear arms.who gives a fuck about steriods?they are illegal now and will be illegal then and they will still be here.so next you bitch about how bad this country is dont blame our pres. blame the one who left.bush cant clean up clintons mess over night,and there is other things that has to be done all at the same time.

maxx

 

[eleven11]

You guys call Bush a mad man and you feel sorry for saddam. Don't worry you have Hillary to vote for in a few years then you'll be happy.
God help us

 

[esco]

i just want to make sure that everyone knows that in my post i don't call bush anything and that the first part of it was somebody else's quote. just makin sure because ... i prefer a president who kicks ass, instead of talking shit ... because we gave saddam 12 freakin years to abide. also if there wasn't something to hide, why even try and fight us. regardless saddam needed to be brought down, we should've finished the job the first go around.

 

[thick]

no place for politics on this board. doesnt do any good. With that being said I wonder why 90% of minorities and women vote democratic? that should be enough to straighten your ass up and wonder what the fuck you are thinking being a liberal waste of sperm. Now back to lifting

 

[askari]

90% of minorities and women vote democratic? that should be enough to straighten your ass up and wonder what the fuck you are thinking being a liberal waste of sperm. Now back to lifting

Hi guys. Liberal waste of sperm here, checking in from the People's Republic of New York City.

I've been good about not making political comments or responding to things said here that I disagree with strongly. I don't want to alienate anybody, given that you all are such good resources for me, and I've got like no experience with this stuff. I'm two weeks into my first AAS cycle.

You're all aware that the Bush Administration hasn't been good for bodybuilding, as evidenced by the ban on ephedra. (Ephedra was one of the few really effective nutritional supplements, the popularity of which was cutting into the profit the pharmaceutical companies made from prescription diet meds. Of course, the pharmaceutical companies are some of Bush's biggest donors. The announcement of the ephedra ban obscured the hysteria about mad cow, and is inconsistent with the Bush administration posture of self-regulation. In other words, by banning ephedra, they made it look like the FDA was doing something, rather than leaving it all up to the industries to regulate themselves, as they would do with pretty much everything else.)

And in this year's State of the Union address, the president said

The use of performance-enhancing drugs like steroids in baseball, football, and other sports is dangerous, and it sends the wrong message -- that there are shortcuts to accomplishment, and that performance is more important than character. So tonight I call on team owners, union representatives, coaches, and players to take the lead, to send the right signal, to get tough, and to get rid of steroids now.

He went on to say

We will double federal funding for abstinence programs

How many of you guys practice abstinence?

 

[maxx]

dude like we said before his views on steriods is the same as anyone elses,you think the demos are going to make them legal?fuck no.so that has no bearing on me at all.ephedra will be on your sources list and you will be able to have that once agian.


QUOTE=askari]Hi guys. Liberal waste of sperm here, checking in from the People's Republic of New York City.

I've been good about not making political comments or responding to things said here that I disagree with strongly. I don't want to alienate anybody, given that you all are such good resources for me, and I've got like no experience with this stuff. I'm two weeks into my first AAS cycle.

You're all aware that the Bush Administration hasn't been good for bodybuilding, as evidenced by the ban on ephedra. (Ephedra was one of the few really effective nutritional supplements, the popularity of which was cutting into the profit the pharmaceutical companies made from prescription diet meds. Of course, the pharmaceutical companies are some of Bush's biggest donors. The announcement of the ephedra ban obscured the hysteria about mad cow, and is inconsistent with the Bush administration posture of self-regulation. In other words, by banning ephedra, they made it look like the FDA was doing something, rather than leaving it all up to the industries to regulate themselves, as they would do with pretty much everything else.)

And in this year's State of the Union address, the president said



He went on to say



How many of you guys practice abstinence?[/QUOTE]

 

[Mr Kent]

Election year

This is an election year and these kinds of things would be happening regardless.As for the ban on ephedra, they have been triing to do this for a very long time way before bush was elected. Big pharmecutical companies are paying big bucks to politicians for that vote. Most all of them have thier own prescription versions of ephedra ready to market.They are the same lobby groups that want to abolish the import of prescription meds and they have extremely deep pockets.
My main problem with the democrats is that they had the chance to get bin ladin and didn't, i can't forget about that. My problem with the republicans is that we should have got sadam the first time and we kissed the UN's ass way too long before we went too long to take him out. Every politician will use the anti-drug position to gain votes.I have never considered myself a republican or demacrat, they are all a bunch of crooks, drug use is nothing compared to what they do.But Bush did visit our troops in bagdahd on christmas, that got my respect....................

 

[shredalean]

That is so simple.
The answer is - To establish a long-term military presence in Iraq, in a move which will dramatically extend American power in the region and spread dismay and fear among its opponents across the Arab world.
&
Israel inspired America for killing three birds with one stone when we invaded Iraq which are spreading imperialism, ensuring protection of Israel and establishing control over oil exporting zone.

And for those that think i'm full of shit. Read PNAC.

I like this guy almost as much as his avatar!

 

[shredalean]

i get so damn tired of how people bash pres. bush.what did the man do,beside go kick the shit out of a country that knowingly habored the terroist .

maxx

If we are talking about Iraq, which terrorist did he harbor?

See what you started MR meanor

 

[askari]

dude like we said before his views on steriods is the same as anyone elses,you think the demos are going to make them legal?fuck no

Well yeah, but what's it doing in the state of the union? You didn't see Clinton's state of the union speeches cluttered with stuff like that. I haven't heard much talk about Mars, by the way. Whatever happened with that?

 

[shredalean]

Well yeah, but what's it doing in the state of the union? You didn't see Clinton's state of the union speeches cluttered with stuff like that. I haven't heard much talk about Mars, by the way. Whatever happened with that?

Well they have this thing called the Mars probe that's cruising around showing us all kinds of cool shit.

 

[askari]

So much for discussing muscle, not politics.

My main problem with the democrats is that they had the chance to get bin ladin and didn't ...

That's untrue. It has been repeated, a lot, and it has taken on the veneer of truth, but it's untrue. The Sudanese offered to turn Bin Laden over to the Saudis, but the Saudis refused to take him. The US tried desperately to get the Saudis to take him, but they wouldn't, probably for their own internal political reasons.

Our friends, the Saudis. The country whose ambassador to the US is affectionately called "Bandar Bush." The country whose ambassador to the UK met several times with Osama Bin Laden (http://www.guardian.co.uk/ukresponse/story/0,11017,815023,00.html).

Oh, did you all know that Osama's brother Salem was an investor in George W. Bush's first failed oil company?

Another lie: Clinton bombed an aspirin factory in Sudan. It seems that factory was making chemical weapons, a claim the CIA still stands by.

But Bush did visit our troops in bagdahd on christmas, that got my respect....................

That was Thanksgiving. Hillary Clinton also went, separately.

 

[askari]

My main problem with the democrats is that they had the chance to get bin ladin and didn't

Oh, I forgot to mention, the outgoing clinton administration tried to warn Condaleeza Rice and others in the incoming Bush administration about the threat posed by Al Quaeda. They tried to turn over a plan for meeting the threat.

The incoming Bush administration was preoccupied with other priorities, such as Iraq. However, they finally adopted the Clinton plan. On September 4, 2001.

http://heraldsun.news.com.au/printpage/0,5481,7599065,00.html

 

[shredalean]

Oh, I forgot to mention, the outgoing clinton administration tried to warn Condaleeza Rice and others in the incoming Bush administration about the threat posed by Al Quaeda. They tried to turn over a plan for meeting the threat.

The incoming Bush administration was preoccupied with other priorities, such as Iraq. However, they finally adopted the Clinton plan. On September 4, 2001.

http://heraldsun.news.com.au/printpage/0,5481,7599065,00.html

Hey askari isn't it shitty that you have to pay for the guardianuk now? Still great source for news.