dinfar1337
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oh i think he has cycled on for 12 weeks and then took a cruise phase with just some test lmao.
hgh isnt a bad idea to keep muscle while recomping. i dont think 400mg is excessive tren if its just for 12 weeks
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hgh isnt a bad idea to keep muscle while recomping. i dont think 400mg is excessive tren if its just for 12 weeks
When I qualified most recently both times I ran 800 test, 600 tren, 600 masteron (week) for about a 10 week period. Prior to that I ran test and deca. For 6 weeks I ran 100 mgs of anavar a day. Last 4-5 weeks I dropped the anavar and ran Winstrol, 100 mgs a day.
Guy who beat me and got his pro card ran similar amounts, he just had better genetics. He may have run a little bit more masteron.
For a recreational body builder not looking to go to nationals and get a pro card I would recommend less than half those amounts.
RockyP
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Sounds exactly in line with what I’ve been told by former pros / now coaches. Thank you for adding to the pile of data.
Personally I achieve very satisfactory results with no more than 300 test, 150 masteron, 150 NPP, and 10 mg tren (daily).
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There is some first hand experience, worth its weight in gold!
Bandern
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Nobody except God Emperor King Random Internet Guy is allowed to run 2 grams of gear!!
Your body his choice!!!
Your body his choice!!!
dinfar1337
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absolute madness
and its only 400mg tren
you literally can start looking at the behaviour of these guys and they're all sheep. i dont know exactly where they picked up this consensus of above 100mg tren will kill you but i god damn know they haven't ran it.
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RockyP
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Where I struggle is with the fact that if your genetics / training / diet are so horrible that you need this much tren to “achieve your goals” and you’re not competing / making money off of your physique, why bother at all? Take up a new hobby. I mean some people pass the time by doing all sorts of meaningless self destructive things, but this is very peculiar. I get it, lots of people have mental problems and don’t care about their own well being, and that manifests itself in a plethora of ways. But they’re not in the majority. There are people reading these boards who don’t know better. You’ve got top level national competitors and pros saying don’t exceed 300 mg per week but some Randos who seem to have an IQ equal to their resting pulse rate tell you to run a ton of it. Bragging that you need a ton of gear is like bragging about how small your dick is. It’s just not a good a look any way you slice it.
Personally im stubborn as hell, you could tell me something untill youre blue in the face and im still gonna go learn by doing if and fucking up lol
Bandern
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Other guy said he took 600 Tren and you thanked him for his service. But if anybody else wants to run over 300 their training, genetics, and diet are trash? I’m not following.
If we wanna play the ghey and nihilistic card, none of us need anything, bodybuilding is pointless, and we should all be natty and live in a pod and eat bugs.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with the microdosing approach but it’s not the only way to do things. If someone’s bloodwork is reasonably good and they aren’t scared of drugs then who cares.
eery
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how does it make sense to go from 1000mg a week into 350mg a week?
are you planning to make most of your progress during the first 12 weeks and then just kinda maintain during the next 12 weeks?
it makes way more sense to start at 250 test and 100 tren and titrate that up across the 24 weeks and have a more gradual progression with the training and diet in hand with that.
your setup makes no sense to me, what is the thought process behind this setup you have outlined?
Where is the GH?
Liter O' Test
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i felt an extremely low dose of tren lately, I havent used it in a few years.
going to ramp it up at 20% every few weeks
i think people blow their load too early and as i get older i think there is substantial downregulation as cycle scontinue
going to ramp it up at 20% every few weeks
i think people blow their load too early and as i get older i think there is substantial downregulation as cycle scontinue
You make a good point, AR downregulation is a real thing as your cycle length extends, its typically why people will titrate up doses.
There is a case to be made for 8 week cycle with more frequent bridges to reset ARs and normalize health markers.
I have not known or worked directly with any pros for a long while but the major guys in open take way, way more than that. I never used insulin or more than 6 iu's of GH.
Oldhand
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Ty for sharing all that info, Texas. I take doses very similar to the cycle you posted. I’ve moved into the 2g per week zone after some years. I have also never used insulin.
I’m glad you mentioned the part about the heavy hitters in open. These dudes are on a lot of gear. There are a lot of downplay about dosage amounts, but I think it is to keep those younger guys from doing to much to soon… so sorta like white lies.
dinfar1337
New Member
for the first 4 weeks after increasing dosage, myostatin and other key hormones for regulating muscle growth limit is supressed when increasing dosage by 250mg or more.
ar receptors will always upregulate to handle more if u give it more steroids. it will never downregulate or de-sensitize.
RockyP
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He’s competing at a national level. But at the end of the day it really doesn’t matter. If you need 2 grams to get results, take 2 grams. If I needed that much drugs I would find something else to do. To each their own.
dinfar1337
New Member
like i said, everyones drug metabolism is different but u think to seem everyone functions as u or that national pro guy.
- take ur 100mg we dont care stop pushing it on everyone else either you're a pussy or have very good drug metabolism
end of discussion its just 400mg tren its not like hes taking grams. rather standard most people dont get full effect of steroid until 300-400mg plus.
while you're settling at some nutrient partioning at 100mg because you're more responsible. anyways we're running tren here not primobolan we are ready to take certain risks, you're just stupid man
Bandern
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Thank you for your permission to take 2 grams now I can finally get from 120lbs to 122lbs. Salute!!
Woah woah woah, lets not get overly optimistic, start with a goal of 121.5 so youre not disappointed
RockyP
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Just can’t imagine taking 2 grams and not competing at a reasonably high level. It Sounds very idiotic to me. But again. You’ve got it all figured out. Take care of yourself brother. Grams and grams.
