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I do compete at a high level (being the most muscular guy at my gym if we only count the white people)
Also I’ve never taken more than a gram
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Best compound to stack with tren for lean dry muscle gains
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Also I’ve never taken more than a gram
Oldhand
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I understand your point and I do not think you are wrong. I’ve been lifting for 25 years. Things slowly crept up and here we are.
Rocky I think you are just a bit older than me (I noticed this in another thread), but I know where you’re coming from. I do think about the next 10 years and realize things will taper off.
lvz
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whats with this board and people terrified of tren ion get it
dinfar1337
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i have nothing against people low dosing but dont push it on others who have been using 400mg cycling for 5 years!
it was only that rockypussy guy that compared 400mg tren to 2g tren you will die ahhhhh!
You make a good point. 400mg is a pretty moderate, if not low dose by todays standards.
dinfar1337
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well i would say im very moderate. ive tried to run higher but there was practically no difference between 400mg and 1g for me.
400mg seems to be my max dosage on tren within reason where i see limits if i keep increasing. i guess its where diminishing returns kick in?
Deskoze38192
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I’ll add my 2 cents fwiw.
I’m all for lower dose Tren. It’s amazing what 70 will do with no noticeable side effects
I recently decided to up my dose of Tren to 200 mg (yesterday lol)
I’m not a low dose AAS user though
High dose Test and High dose GH.
Tren and GH are definitely synergistic
Best AAS to couple with Tren is Test and GH for “lean gains”
Lean gains is about your diet…not your choice of drugs
If your goal is to make gains then your bulking
Your either bulking or cutting
I’m all for lower dose Tren. It’s amazing what 70 will do with no noticeable side effects
I recently decided to up my dose of Tren to 200 mg (yesterday lol)
I’m not a low dose AAS user though
High dose Test and High dose GH.
Tren and GH are definitely synergistic
Best AAS to couple with Tren is Test and GH for “lean gains”
Lean gains is about your diet…not your choice of drugs
If your goal is to make gains then your bulking
Your either bulking or cutting
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dinfar1337
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if there was a clap emoji this is the time to use it. got everything right.
im currently doing 1g test 600mg eq for next cycle, im planning to incorporate some tren at 200mg. would not say i run hgh too high im at 8iu. i could probably run higher but i dont need more right now
Deskoze38192
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Sounds great to me!
this is my new cycle doses currently
Test C 250 (1000 mg/wk)
Primo 150 (300 mg/wk)
NPP 150 (300 mg/wk)
Tren A 100 (100 mg/ wk)
Tren E 200 (100 mg/ wk)
HGH 6 IU daily
The HGH would be definitely higher but I’m saving to build a house lol
I’ll be switching the Primo out for EQ when I run out of Primo
I really like EQ, just decided to run this Primo I had for the last couple months
Liter O' Test
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Just add masteron and anadrol and its perfect
Oldhand
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That’s how I think about it. I can understand if someone has bad sides they are going to run a lower dose or maybe not run it at all.
I can also see adding a low dose of tren to a cycle for the nutrient absorption…. Like a support compound. Kind of like a low dose of deca for joint support. Neither is the prime mover in these scenarios.
I envy the ones who are hyper responders. It’s cheaper for them to run gear!
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Deskoze38192
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I run a little injectable Adrol before every workout. LoL
Perworkout
50 mg TNE
3 mg MTren
20 mg Adrol
Oldhand
Member
Same. I have enough primo to last a while but I’m stocking eq. The price on primo needs to come down before I plan cycles with it again.
Deskoze38192
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I definitely agree!
One thing people don't talk about....everyone talks about genetics, thinking full muscles bellies, structure, one in 10.000 body parts.
But another thing is drug response. The guys at the top are just super responders. They get way better responses from gear than us mere mortals.
I actually have pretty shitty genetics, short biceps muscles, thin chest, thick hips and waist (which were actually not that bad when I was younger). But I have always responded well to gear and was able handle fairly high doses with less sides than most people. I also trained 100% naturally unto age 30 (started at 13). That natural base is huge.
I usually had some of the best legs on stage...striated glutei but my upper body simply was not pro material. I was able to win smaller shows because my conditioning was always on.
I was a wizard with diuretics. I could eat cake and ice cream my last week and come in shredding thanks to my diuretic stack.
But my advice is to stay away from competitive bodybuilding. The amounts being run are just insane and insulin has gotten out of control.
Train to look as good as you can on the smallest amount possible. Its always about the training guys (and diet) all the drugs in the world won't get around that fact. Ya have to love training.
Another thing I will tell ya, the top guys find out what works and then don't change much. They are not constantly experimenting around.
This is my on stage my last time, age 56.
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Considering the dosages, you are essentially still a novice.
It would be far more productive to run only testosterone, boldenone (EQ), HGH, and a modest amount of insulin while truly learning how to train and eat effectively.
After a couple of years of consistent progression, you might then consider adding trenbolone during a bulk—at no more than 300–400 mg of Trenbolone Enanthate per week.
eery
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i agree with this guy, and why are you limiting yourself to only 12 weeks?
Start low with food/training/drugs, progress over time and do that for as long as possible, dont set arbitrary limits on yourself.
Anadrol works great with Test and Tren.
