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Did you get any results tho? I am tbh not sure if it is the tren or the diet with cardio that helped me shed the fat.
Plus I did not really get any increased strength while on the other hand with sdrol I added 45 pounds to my bench working weight in 4 Weeks.
I think I will order some Primus Ray tren ace soon just to have something to compare pcom's tren to.


Edit: But what makes me believe that there is at least some tren in their amps is the fact that during my last injection I had tren cough. At least I believe it was that. My throat and neck got real tight and I started coughing. So at least theres got to be some tren, right?
 
MrFatso said:
I am currently running their tren ace in week 5 now.
Have both amps and vials.
It seems that the amps are slightly underdosed and the vials seem complete bunk.

The first 3 weeks I only used their amps. Started getting sweats and getting slightly more vascular. Still not what I expected from 700mg pw. In week 3 I started using the vials. The sides, which were barely there to start with, suddenly started disappearing. No more sweats, no more intense pumps etc.
Went back to amps after a week. The sides returned.

However, still the sides are nothing like what I expected them to be. Especially at 700mg pw. No insomnia, no night sweats, no crazy sex drive and no crazy strength gains.
TBH I had better results on sdrol at 20mg ed.

All this is just sharing personal experience. I have not done any testing to back it up.
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Have you ever ran tren before?
Sides aren't the way you judge potency.
I get near zero sides from my pellet home brew, which is 100% legit. I get sides from ugl tren. Sides, and color isn't the way you judge the compounds

Pcom sure must be putting out alot of shit. How come all their anabolic lab stuff is good?
 
MrFatso said:
Did you get any results tho? I am tbh not sure if it is the tren or the diet with cardio that helped me shed the fat.
Plus I did not really get any increased strength while on the other hand with sdrol I added 45 pounds to my bench working weight in 4 Weeks.
I think I will order some Primus Ray tren ace soon just to have something to compare pcom's tren to.


Edit: But what makes me believe that there is at least some tren in their amps is the fact that during my last injection I had tren cough. At least I believe it was that. My throat and neck got real tight and I started coughing. So at least theres got to be some tren, right?
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I didn't, but when I switched to a different lab and even a lower dose I got pretty noticeable results. My diet is always completely on point whether I'm on or off so that's not a variable for me
 
Robfromga said:
Have you ever ran tren before?
Sides aren't the way you judge potency.
I get near zero sides from my pellet home brew, which is 100% legit. I get sides from ugl tren. Sides, and color isn't the way you judge the compounds

Pcom sure must be putting out alot of shit. How come all their anabolic lab stuff is good?
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Theyre universally underdosed from what I've seen on anaboliclab though.
 
Wunderpus said:
Here was one test AL did (25% underdosed for those who like a fast read):
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Pharmacom Labs PHARMA Oxy 50 Lab Test Results - Anabolic Lab

This is 20% underdosed:
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Pharmacom Labs PHARMA Nan D300 Lab Test Results - Anabolic Lab

A product that is 17% off the claimed amount:

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Pharmacom PHARMA Test P100 Lab Test Results - Anabolic Lab

One that is 10% off:
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Pharmacom Labs PHARMA Test P100 Lab Test Results - Anabolic Lab



So, yeah, they obviously don't have "pharmaceutical standards" when it comes to their dosing and testing. On their SITE they claim a purity NO LOWER than 98.5%... Um... I'm missing something. "We are a big pharmaceutical company providing pharmaceutical grade quality!"
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"3. We don`t have underdosed vials or pills! As you can see on the video above our production line is fully automated. We recheck our equipment settings before we launch each new batch. All settings for each vial or pill within one batch are equal. If one vial was underdosed, it would mean that all other vials from this batch are underdosed too, which is just impossible."
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STOP BUYING FROM THESE CLOWNS!
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I've given you cunts, @Dema @IronJulius and all other Pcom clowns, quite a few days to reply to ANY of my posts on this thread.

Until they do, let us be reminded, once again, of Pharmacom's utter incompetency when it comes to dosing their products. Also, the lies the perpetuate regarding their allegedly "flawless" testing procedures.
 
Wunderpus said:
I've given you cunts, @Dema @IronJulius and all other Pcom clowns, quite a few days to reply to ANY of my posts on this thread.

Until they do, let us be reminded, once again, of Pharmacom's utter incompetency when it comes to dosing their products. Also, the lies the perpetuate regarding their allegedly "flawless" testing procedures.
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Shit I've given you the same amount of time to show me a better lab.

So you found 1 of how many tested by anaboliclabs? And here are just some of the other independent test results

LAB TESTS | Independent and customer lab test results for listed products at PharmacomStore.biz
 
Just my 2 cents. In no way am I trying to discredit OP, but I did receive mix 1 from basic around 2 weeks after OP did. I got my orals from another source due to PCom's reputation on dbol. I do use pharma test c at 100/wk on top of 3 amps mix 1 weekly. I front loaded mix 1 with 4 amps on day 1, and I have had remarkable gains...after becoming accustomed to the pip. However, our cycles are not the same. I do have labs, but the pharma test will definitely skew the results in favor of pcom.

OP, I have heard many times pcom orals are worthless. I was skeptical, just like you, about purchasing pcom gear. After seeing their customer service firsthand on your thread, my skepticism is well founded. @Dema you should not talk to members in the manner you have, and you need to make it right for OP or you have lost my business as well!
 
IronJulius said:
Shit I've given you the same amount of time to show me a better lab.

So you found 1 of how many tested by anaboliclabs? And here are just some of the other independent test results

LAB TESTS | Independent and customer lab test results for listed products at PharmacomStore.biz
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Apparently you've contracted "Pharmacom Math" as I posted 3.... Not 1.

The argument "show me a better lab" is irrelevant, as I'm not a rep for a lab.... I don't care to compare labs, I care to show how preposterous the lies are the you spread on an individual basis... This isn't a "I need a source" thread, this is a "beware of Pharmacom" thread...
 
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IronJulius said:
You might want to check your numbers again with the deca 300 it's not off by 20%

So 1 product tested in the red for a fail which was 37mg instead of 50mg
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You're correct, I was wrong.

Regardless of my mathematical error, explain to me why Pcom claims " We don`t have underdosed vials or pills! " "If one vial was underdosed, it would mean that all other vials from this batch are underdosed too, which is just impossible." LOL at these preposterous claims... Guess what? Apparently Pcom has done the impossible! 280mg's/ml instead of the promised, and sold as, 300mg's/ml is UNDERDOSING, is it NOT?!


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Quite frankly, I don't know why I care to even argue with you about this. It's clear you'll never see Pcom as wrong, as they are paying you.... So, this is just being used as a message, or warning, to our members that your claims cannot be trusted.
 
Wunderpus said:
You're correct, I was wrong.

Regardless of my mathematical error, explain to me why Pcom claims " We don`t have underdosed vials or pills! " "If one vial was underdosed, it would mean that all other vials from this batch are underdosed too, which is just impossible." LOL at these preposterous claims... Guess what? Apparently Pcom has done the impossible! 280mg's/ml instead of the promised, and sold as, 300mg's/ml is UNDERDOSING, is it NOT?!


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Quite frankly, I don't know why I care to even argue with you about this. It's clear you'll never see Pcom as wrong, as they are paying you.... So, this is just being used as a message, or warning, to our members that your claims cannot be trusted.
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I have stated pcom is not perfect (a handfull of things come to mind) but my opinion is they are the best ugl out right now. And I have stated a few times over the years if there is a better overall company out please let me know I'm open

I can also state that even my script test C is not exactly 200mg like the vial claims but do you see me posting on ever board that it's fake or underdosed because my insurance company only pays 15% not the 20% like WKM
 
I agree Ironjulious. For me me pcom seems not to be perfect but the best there is right now. Especially with the domestic availability from different sources...

While my results have been great with it, enough complain that I accept some have gotten unacceptable gear.

My solution is not ideal but to run slightly higher doses, mix from different batches, and stack as much as possible in the event some is under dosed so that the cycle isn't blown.

Finally I think of other more legitimate purchases I've made in comparison to the discussion here. Recently I bought 2 different hunting rifles from 2 respectable manufactureres for a fall elk hunt. Neither worked out of the box and had to go back!
Disappointing, but doesn't lead me to conclude that all guns made by these two companies don't work and go on different gun boards declaring all their products suck just because of my one experience.
 
Dane17 said:
I agree Ironjulious. For me me pcom seems not to be perfect but the best there is right now. Especially with the domestic availability from different sources...

While my results have been great with it, enough complain that I accept some have gotten unacceptable gear.

My solution is not ideal but to run slightly higher doses, mix from different batches, and stack as much as possible in the event some is under dosed so that the cycle isn't blown.

Finally I think of other more legitimate purchases I've made in comparison to the discussion here. Recently I bought 2 different hunting rifles from 2 respectable manufactureres for a fall elk hunt. Neither worked out of the box and had to go back!
Disappointing, but doesn't lead me to conclude that all guns made by these two companies don't work and go on different gun boards declaring all their products suck just because of my one experience.
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Sorry about the hunting trip hopefully it didn't ruin it entirely

I have had only one bad experience with pharmacom products and it actually was the dbol which I have shared this before probably here on meso that the usual 30mg preworkout wasn't working I took up to 60mg and still didn't get the usual effects I stated it was probably around 6mg but also during that time a few other sources were having problems with dbol

I highly doubt that pharmacom has ever intentionally sent bunk or underdosed gear and from what I see they go above and beyond any other lab. If i remember correctly the underdosed test p and the drol inject were discounted. The company probably sends out thousands of packs a year with at least 95% positive feedback and most of the negative is petty shit but it's the world we live in. I really do hope more labs step up and pharmacom continues to set high standards there is plenty of money to go around the amount of guys and gals juicing is crazy

And for the record there were about 8-10 guys on multiple boards that didn't like the dbol but during that time over a dozen were saying it was working well for them.

Even tho I got off to a rough start with CdnGuy and he was a little to extreme I really respect him holding sources accountable which we all should. Fuck my wife pins this shit and I would feel like such an ass if anything was to happen
 
This could have been handled to everyones satisfaction off the board. Members could be compensated and after that if they are still not satisfied find another source. You keep it off the open board as well. Consider it the cost of doing business. Pcom makes bank here anyway.
 
IronJulius said:
Sorry about the hunting trip hopefully it didn't ruin it entirely

I have had only one bad experience with pharmacom products and it actually was the dbol which I have shared this before probably here on meso that the usual 30mg preworkout wasn't working I took up to 60mg and still didn't get the usual effects I stated it was probably around 6mg but also during that time a few other sources were having problems with dbol

I highly doubt that pharmacom has ever intentionally sent bunk or underdosed gear and from what I see they go above and beyond any other lab. If i remember correctly the underdosed test p and the drol inject were discounted. The company probably sends out thousands of packs a year with at least 95% positive feedback and most of the negative is petty shit but it's the world we live in. I really do hope more labs step up and pharmacom continues to set high standards there is plenty of money to go around the amount of guys and gals juicing is crazy

And for the record there were about 8-10 guys on multiple boards that didn't like the dbol but during that time over a dozen were saying it was working well for them.

Even tho I got off to a rough start with CdnGuy and he was a little to extreme I really respect him holding sources accountable which we all should. Fuck my wife pins this shit and I would feel like such an ass if anything was to happen
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I don't think anyone is saying Pharmacom intentionally underdosed OP's gear. However, just like it has happened to you, it is plausible it happened again. If Pharmacom has the high standards you speak of, then they will make it right for the OP and the Meso community.

We already have 1 source with terrible customer service and attacks our members. We don't need another one! You've already lost me as a customer, how many more is acceptable to you. Thank you @Turkish Pharmacy and @pharmasource for great gear and great service! You don't even pay to be on this board. Make it right or GTFO.
 
N01B4M3 said:
I don't think anyone is saying Pharmacom intentionally underdosed OP's gear. However, just like it has happened to you, it is plausible it happened again. If Pharmacom has the high standards you speak of, then they will make it right for the OP and the Meso community.

We already have 1 source with terrible customer service and attacks our members. We don't need another one! You've already lost me as a customer, how many more is acceptable to you. Thank you @Turkish Pharmacy and @pharmasource for great gear and great service! You don't even pay to be on this board. Make it right or GTFO.
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Its that easy. Pharmcom has a fucked up reputation on this board because buffoons rep for them.
 
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