DestroyerOfWorlds
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So is bio gtg [
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You wouldn't believe how many PM's I get asking this very question. I'm like WTF!!
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What your take on Strech?
What your take on Strech?
But if he is doing a scam, why would he continue to fill orders an make it right via Bio1?? It sounds like the big dogs have already told everyone not to do business w em anymore. He told everyone to steer clear of Bio. If I was gonna do what you're saying he's doing...
1) I wouldn't have said to stop business w Bio.
2) I wouldn't be filling orders.
I'm not saying he is or isn't. I'm just saying there's a lot of shit happening all at once, & no one really knows what's going on. I'm not defending anyone anymore for a while or attacking anyone except myself (and I'm good at kicking my own ass)! Lol
Kubrick
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God damn bro. Are you fucking stretch or what? I think you have a crush on him.
Bucky
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Ironman. I used to pedal weed when I was a kid. I would hang out in town and when someone requested a bag, I would ask for the money up front because I had to buy it from "the guy in the supermarket". I would walk into said supermarket and walk around for a bit and then come out. If I sold some shwag or undersized bags, I blamed it on "the guy in the supermarket". That also protected me from getting stuck up because anyone I dealt with figured I was a middleman when in fact I was my own entity.
I think you need to take a step back man! That's a bold statement to make. You & everyone else on here knows I'm not him. I'm out more money than anyone on here right now.
You haven't said or done anything that me or any of the others that believed in Stretch before he went off the deep end did. Only difference is you're praising someone else. You believe in other ugl's on here just like I do. Only difference is they haven't disappeared yet. Nobody knows if they will or won't. All we can do is hope this don't happen again.
We are all on the same team here or at least we should be. All I've got is hope that I'll receive what I've paid for. There's nothing wrong w that. Maybe I will, maybe I won't.
Everyone knows your stance on here....
"Grab the pitch forks!"
"Everybody that said anything good about Stretch is a dumbass!"
"You're a dumbass if you still hope to get your shit!"
We get it man! Don't worry! All of us get it! But for me & everyone else that's still waiting is just gonna keep waiting. I'm not praising him. I'm just trying to figure it all out like others.
I'd appreciate it if you would quit talking down to me & others like me that are all in the same boat. We know it has a hole in it. We know the captain jumped off into the emergency raft & floated away.
Thanks
I understand brother. I'll just try to keep my comments to my self a little more. I was just trying to figure this puzzle out. Not trying to cause problems.
The reason for someone to act as two different people is quite simple. When there appears to be two people then you can pass blame to the other while making one name appear to be the innocent victim. If that's what was happening here that is. For example, Stretch could simply imply this was all out of his hands and that Bio1 is responsible for the issues with bio. Which it turn would help ease his name from becoming shit. Then again it could work in reverse where Bio1 would blame Stretch in hopes that business would continue. Honestly nobody is going to know exactly why or the complete story of this whole mess. It's pretty obvious though that Stretch is not the guy many people thought he was...myself included. For the guys who are still waiting for packs i don't blame you for wanting to find any kind of hope that your stuff will come. It's a bad spot to be in. For the people who still blindly try and find any type of reason to give him the benefit of the doubt i would say the benefit of the doubt time has long expired.
I agree, & I can understand what you're saying. Thanks man!
Maybe we could turn this into something else & all start getting along better...anybody a big UFC fan?!? I always liked Chuck Liddell! That was a bad son of a bitch in his day!
Big Worm
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Lets assume at the moment that BIO and Stretch are 2 different people. It is very interesting how Stretch at one point said that BIO was not gtg and not once did BIO say anything back concerning that remark from his partner. This is very odd if they were 2 different people - BIO would be pissed.
I have emails from bio1 (as people are calling him) from several months ago where he's referring to Stretch as another person. He even quoted me different prices on shit than Stretch. When I asked Stretch about the difference in price he just said "sometimes me and my partner disagree on pricing". This was all back in September and October when Bio was still considered cream of the crop for UGLs. Not saying it's impossible they're the same person but why leave so many ducks out there to keep in a row with trivial shit to keep track of like var being $1 vs $1.25. Doubt this will change anyone's mind at this point but that's just my .02
viking23
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That's just him making himself seem more trustworthy. I mean if he uses one handle to overprice what will happen? Everyone would go order off stretch and make him out to be the good guy. Then when everyone trusted him enough he would be able to pull a quick one on everybody. And then when everything all said and done he would pull the "it wasn't me " line and blame on his partner. And some people will believe that and then he will set you up again.
Just how I see him playing that off.
Just how I see him playing that off.
As i have said before nobody is going to know 100%. The thing to look at here is that Stretch is not stupid and when one is going to put on a scam they provide many layers to cover themselves. By doing the price quote deal with you with two different prices he basically planted the seed to you that it must be 2 different people. Same thing was accomplished by the posts from Bio1. The way he talked to people simply tried to imply and again make it seem like he was so different than Stretch that it had to be someone else. This is how you attempt to convince people that there are two different people. You attempt to do small things "like the different prices" and the posts from Bio1 to make things appear so different that it must be two people. It is really the only way to attempt to fool people that you and another alias are two totally different entities especially on the internet. How would one attempt to show he is different from someone else in this environment? By doing things opposite or out of character from the other, which is what we have here.
Raider72
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What about the members who had personal ties to Stretch? There seemed to be a few although I have not gone back & looked for sure. I do know there were a handful that claimed to know Stretch outside the board?? And in the beginning many many members were Bio cheerleaders & stated Bio was gtg. So it is clear by the presented info that Stretch has made off with $$ from the group buy but when did Bio become not gtg? & I don't mean gtg that anyone should order from bio in the midst of this but from the standpoint of the product? & remember I was one of the 1st to post labs that showed possible underdosed gear so again this is in no way a defense of Bio or Stretch just a clarifying question. Sorry if this is a stupid question.
Raider72
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& when I ask about other members who knew Stretch it is not an indictment but simply curious to what extent the relationship was & what their perspective now is.
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Motherfuckers have to be stupid to participate in a "group buy" anyways. That right there is a red flag showing you this guy writes checks that his ass cant cash. A reliable source would either have the shit on hand and get it out to you, or tell you its out of stock. PERIOD. A group buy is nothing more than a small time fucker trying to be John Ghotti with your money
Probably not a question anyone will be able to answer. Lot of people most likely did not get bloods since so many people where on the Bio bandwagon. It would be difficult to say when/if the product become under dosed or shit. I would assume the only way to know this is if everyone who ordered from Bio and has yet to run it should get some bloods done. Then again at this point it does not really matter in the grand scheme of things.
Raider72
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In the grand scheme I agree 100% you are right. But there were some pretty legit members very loudly touting Bio as the clear UGL to use. Members who I am assuming are experienced enough (unlike myself) to know good gear & labs just being part of the equation. Dr Jim himself has posted that labs are sometimes overrated in detecting dosing of Test & also gave Bio a big thumbs up. PC over & over & over has not only shouted about his results with Bio gear but bragged loudly about a BB he is training & documented his results. There are many many more examples. Also, the best I can tell Stretch/Bio filled every order up to this point even in the midst of the fallout. That makes zero sense to me??
My point in all of this, 1)was Bio gear not really that great from the beginning which would mean we were duped by not only Stretch/Bio but also many who touted it as gtg. 2) Is Bio in fact good gear (not advocating for anyone to order from them) & the real issue is Stretch used Bio as a means for a scam with the group buy. or 3) Is there a legitimate issue that Stretch dealt with (& still is) poorly ie the reshipper & group buy went bad & Stretch got in way over his head.
I personally would have no clue but those that claimed to have an outside relationship (one of the many reasons Stretch was so trusted by the community) then it would seem they could speak to this possibly.
I am simply trying to understand this deal & it is probably bothering me way more then it should be since I am out zero $, Bio did right buy me with gear replacement (if it's worth anything) & I am not a very knowledgeable person in this realm compared to most here.
So I am sorry if I am over involving but my interest is not so much in Bio but more to learn from a personal level to better evaluate ugl choices in the future. Because if you look at 3-4 other UGL thread going right now you could make a case for a Stretch/Bio event to happen all over again.
Mass, I really haven't put much thought into except I wish my name wasn't envolved in anyway. I had many conversations with Stretch over email in the beginning and he seemed legit to me.
I do know this... He had me fooled and most likely used me as his biggest pawn initially here on MESO.
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