Blood results, how does it look.

Dude are you kidding? Unless you were only 4 feet tall you didn't need any fucking steroids. You've already ran dbol and test and now ur trying to add more compounds even tho you clearly haven't even lifted weights or dieted a day before u started this cycle. Get off of everything and learn how to gain weight and size naturally. A grown man anything taller than 5' should have no problem reaching 175 naturally! Steroids are never gonna get you what your looking for because you obviously don't know how to eat or train!
 
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But that is not true, I have trained hard and im training as hard as ive ever had before right now, ive trained a long side friends and watched them change, while I stay the same doing exactly what they are doing, the same goes for my two brothers and my father, we all got the same problem, we are strong but we cant gain any size, i have gone natural from squatting 200 lbs to near 280 for 8 reps and from benching 120, to 165 for 8 reps with no freaking change in my physique, and the same goes for my 2 brothers. We have watched people a long side us, change their bodies wothout even doing half the shit we do.

Im working out 6 days a week right now, sometime skipping important things so i dont skip my work out, eating clean to the point of vomiting so i can get at least 4500 calories in me, counting protein grams to try to get it as close to 300 every day, im walking around with me mouth close so food doesnt overflow of my body.
You dont understand, it may seem like nothing to you, but what ive gain now, for me is huge, not in my wildest dream could i ever get to this point without the test. One of my brothers is able to do 15 pull ups with 50 lbs on his back, and he just looks like a skinny guy. He is amazed by my results too because he is in the same situation, he can get stronger, but he just cant get the looks.
Its frustrating.
 
That's because you're not eating enough. Any of you. My guess is your family suffers from poor appetite. Eat in a surplus you gain weight. Period.
 
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But that is not true, I have trained hard and im training as hard as ive ever had before right now, ive trained a long side friends and watched them change, while I stay the same doing exactly what they are doing, the same goes for my two brothers and my father, we all got the same problem, we are strong but we cant gain any size, i have gone natural from squatting 200 lbs to near 280 for 8 reps and from benching 120, to 165 for 8 reps with no freaking change in my physique, and the same goes for my 2 brothers. We have watched people a long side us, change their bodies wothout even doing half the shit we do.

Im working out 6 days a week right now, sometime skipping important things so i dont skip my work out, eating clean to the point of vomiting so i can get at least 4500 calories in me, counting protein grams to try to get it as close to 300 every day, im walking around with me mouth close so food doesnt overflow of my body.
You dont understand, it may seem like nothing to you, but what ive gain now, for me is huge, not in my wildest dream could i ever get to this point without the test. One of my brothers is able to do 15 pull ups with 50 lbs on his back, and he just looks like a skinny guy. He is amazed by my results too because he is in the same situation, he can get stronger, but he just cant get the looks.
Its frustrating.
If you aren't growing in size, you simply are not eating enough. Point blank, period. Your metabolism may set your maintenance calories at 2000, or 4500, but if you aren't growing you must eat more! The body can adapt the nervous system among other things to grow strength without size to a degree. You can get stronger without gaining weight depending on the type of training and NUTRITION! there is a reason people differentiate training for hypertrophy vs training for strength. The strongest men in the world don't have the same amount of musculature as often times weaker bodybuilders! Why is this? Because of the type of training and nutrition they pursue!
 
How tall are you? If you are average height @165 it probably does feel like your full off of a meal that isn't THAT large. Either way, if you are 165 and not a short fat kid, don't be afraid of carbs. Someone with high metabolism can take in many more carbs than an endomorph
 
Start getting more calories from liquids if u need to. Add spoonfulls of healthy oils to shakes. You can easily get hundreds of calories added that way
 
Im not rrying to be a bodybuilder,if i could just give a nice definition to what ive got and lose the belly ill be more than happy, i chose those comoaunds because i think if I change my dieet to deficit to lose the belly, imma lose it all.
 
Im not rrying to be a bodybuilder,if i could just give a nice definition to what ive got and lose the belly ill be more than happy, i chose those comoaunds because i think if I change my dieet to deficit to lose the belly, imma lose it all.
Dude you're all over the place? Are u a fat 165? Lose all of what? You won't tell me your height so I'm assuming you're at least 5ft and at 165 you haven't got any muscle to lose probably! Listen to what I'm saying and stop relying on drugs to make minor changes in your appearance! It's obvious you don't have any understanding of how all this really works.
 
No im not fat,I have enought bf in my stomach area,to not be able to see a six pack, if i adjust my diet, i know itll go away but im afraid something else is going to go to! im aboout 5'3" and the 15 pounds ive gained to you might be nothing, but for me this is huge, i can see and people can see i look a lot fuller for the first time, so if i dont have any muscle to loose, whatever it is that made my arms and chest and legs look bigger right now, i would like to hold on to when i get rid of this little fat around my stomach.
 
No im not fat,I have enought bf in my stomach area,to not be able to see a six pack, if i adjust my diet, i know itll go away but im afraid something else is going to go to! im aboout 5'3" and the 15 pounds ive gained to you might be nothing, but for me this is huge, i can see and people can see i look a lot fuller for the first time, so if i dont have any muscle to loose, whatever it is that made my arms and chest and legs look bigger right now, i would like to hold on to when i get rid of this little fat around my stomach.
How old are you
 
Start getting more calories from liquids if u need to. Add spoonfulls of healthy oils to shakes. You can easily get hundreds of calories added that way
@Green Terror this is great advice! Do some reasearch on healthy fats that can help you with your metabolism while simultaneously giving your body the caloric fuel it needs to grow
 
LOL Gabe you really gotta get your personal info off here. Your posting about juicing AAS (illegal bro) and you've got your name right there! I'd PM whoever can help you with getting it removed, then, Photoshop out your damn name before you re upload it. in all my years on forums I've never seen this happen.
 
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