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ironwill1951

ironwill1951

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i am not a believer in blood serum levels to determine if you hgh is real i believe those numbers can be manipulated, cant you get you igf levels checked ? would that not be a better way to test ? maybe a dumb question im not a DR.
 
I was under the impression that you get both numbers tested. For IGF testing, you need to wait until 4-6 weeks of GH usage in order for IGF levels to rise. From my research I believe IGF should double or triple from your baseline.

Not an expert, so I'll let the Vets provide more details.
 
Serum test you can take right away, igf1 takes 6 weeks to fully show up. Would you like to be pinning 6 weeks of bunk HGH?
 
ironwill1951 said:
i run pharm grade yr round, this winter i might buy a kit of generic do a serum test then run it for a month and see if my igf level goes up down or stays the same
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Blasphemy! You're the last fella on this board that I thought would even consider running generics!
 
I had igf levels checked after 1 month on the old Hyges. My pre igf level was 175ish, after 1 month it was 370ish if I remember correctly. This was on 4 iu/day of Hyges. I transitioned to Serostim and waited three months to have igf levels checked, on 2iu/day of Serostim my igf levels came in at 440, that number seemed elevated but not sure as I have nothing else to use for a reference. Not sure what to make of the Hyges numbers, they were elevated but less than Sero's at half the dose. Were the Hyges real hgh? Maybe. Probably had some hgh in it. The interesting thing is that from the same batch of Hyges guys were reporting Serum test levels in the 30's and low 40's, Serostim was coming in at the low 20's, how does that happen? Very fishy info on generics and serum levels. The Chinese have found a way to manipulate the serum levels, no doubt.

Edit: I was only running test when I had igf levels checked while on Hyges. I was running Test and Tren when I had igf levels checked on sero's, not sure how much tren elevates igf levels but its possible. Just throwing out the variables.
 
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BR1217 said:
I had igf levels checked after 1 month on the old Hyges. My pre igf level was 175ish, after 1 month it was 370ish if I remember correctly. This was on 4 iu/day of Hyges. I transitioned to Serostim and waited three months to have igf levels checked, on 2iu/day of Serostim my igf levels came in at 440, that number seemed elevated but not sure as I have nothing else to use for a reference. Not sure what to make of the Hyges numbers, they were elevated but less than Sero's at half the dose. Were the Hyges real hgh? Maybe. Probably had some hgh in it. The interesting thing is that from the same batch of Hyges guys were reporting Serum test levels in the 30's and low 40's, Serostim was coming in at the low 20's, how does that happen? Very fishy info on generics and serum levels. The Chinese have found a way to manipulate the serum levels, no doubt.

Edit: I was only running test when I had igf levels checked while on Hyges. I was running Test and Tren when I had igf levels checked on sero's, not sure how much tren elevates igf levels but its possible. Just throwing out the variables.
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Tren raises IGF levels more than any other anabolic. Generics probably contain a fair number of biologically inactive molecules (dimers, homodimers?), that may still be present in a serum result. The quality of pharma is better, no doubt.

370 is definetly double your baseline. Unless your a freak. IGF peaks out at 5-600 and I'm sure you have to run crazy doses to get there

Edit: test will also raise IGF at supraphysiologic doses 300+mg/week
 
BR1217 said:
I had igf levels checked after 1 month on the old Hyges. My pre igf level was 175ish, after 1 month it was 370ish if I remember correctly. This was on 4 iu/day of Hyges. I transitioned to Serostim and waited three months to have igf levels checked, on 2iu/day of Serostim my igf levels came in at 440, that number seemed elevated but not sure as I have nothing else to use for a reference. Not sure what to make of the Hyges numbers, they were elevated but less than Sero's at half the dose. Were the Hyges real hgh? Maybe. Probably had some hgh in it. The interesting thing is that from the same batch of Hyges guys were reporting Serum test levels in the 30's and low 40's, Serostim was coming in at the low 20's, how does that happen? Very fishy info on generics and serum levels. The Chinese have found a way to manipulate the serum levels, no doubt.

Edit: I was only running test when I had igf levels checked while on Hyges. I was running Test and Tren when I had igf levels checked on sero's, not sure how much tren elevates igf levels but its possible. Just throwing out the variables.
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doesn't it take 12 weeks for igf-1 serum to be fully elevated ? if you have done igf test 2 or 3 months after on hyges, your igf-1 level would come up more than 370.
 
hotdog23 said:
Tren raises IGF levels more than any other anabolic. Generics probably contain a fair number of biologically inactive molecules (dimers, homodimers?), that may still be present in a serum result. The quality of pharma is better, no doubt.

370 is definetly double your baseline. Unless your a freak. IGF peaks out at 5-600 and I'm sure you have to run crazy doses to get there

Edit: test will also raise IGF at supraphysiologic doses 300+mg/week
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Hotdog do you have source you can point me to on Test and IGF levels
 
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