Blood work including IGF on PD's Greys

[fodsod]

Ok, so I was getting ready for my annual physical with my GP and was TRT cruising for about a month on 250mg/week of Test E from my home brew source (good friend that is a chemist) and I've been running "The Grey Tops" from PD for almost 5 months at 5iu ED taken all at once at night before bed.

I was running no AI thinking I wouldn't need it at that low of a dose but obviously I was wrong and have since broke out the Letro to smack that Estro down. I'm in my 40's and my IGF-1 level prior to this run was 180. Now at 361 I'm OK with that considering the price point.

Anyway, I figured I'd share the results. I'm going to add in some MK677 at 30mg ED for a month and test again to see what happens before I take a break from the HGH. I'll post that in this thread when I get it back.

 

[legendary]

Thanks.

 

[Deepwaters1987]

Good numbers for a dose of 250mg. How long after pin was your test? I think I would have freaked out a bit for my estrogen was that high lol

Thanks for sharing

 

[Roco Bama]

Your igf level are low. 5iu/day should put levels in the 450-500. Don't know if you got a bad patch, you don't respond well to hgh, or the greys are going downhill.

 

[fodsod]

Your igf level are low. 5iu/day should put levels in the 450-500. Don't know if you got a bad patch, you don't respond well to hgh, or the greys are going downhill.

Well based on current findings the Greys appear to only have 7.5-8 iu per vial so my dose is more like 3.75-4 iu per day tops. So yeah, the Greys going downhill is an understatement.

Although, one of our other members was doing 10iu per day of Greys and had IGF levels around 500 but again it was probably closer to 7.5-8 a day.

 

[fodsod]

Good numbers for a dose of 250mg. How long after pin was your test? I think I would have freaked out a bit for my estrogen was that high lol

Thanks for sharing

Glad to share. This site has some good information and members if you know where to look and who to listen too. So I'm just doing my part.

Pinned on Monday morning and pulled bloods on Wed morning. So 48 hours later. Two weeks prior my GP pulled bloods (capped) and I was above 1500 and that was 4 days after pinning.

 

[rutman]

Thanks for the testing brother... I've been running 5iu of PD greys as well and due for some blood work in a few weeks. It'd be nice to compare our numbers.


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[Sampei]

I was on 5IU grey ed and got 500igf

 

[Just Fish]

Ok, so I was getting ready for my annual physical with my GP and was TRT cruising for about a month on 250mg/week of Test E from my home brew source (good friend that is a chemist) and I've been running "The Grey Tops" from PD for almost 5 months at 5iu ED taken all at once at night before bed.

I was running no AI thinking I wouldn't need it at that low of a dose but obviously I was wrong and have since broke out the Letro to smack that Estro down. I'm in my 40's and my IGF-1 level prior to this run was 180. Now at 361 I'm OK with that considering the price point.

Anyway, I figured I'd share the results. I'm going to add in some MK677 at 30mg ED for a month and test again to see what happens before I take a break from the HGH. I'll post that in this thread when I get it back.

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Holy e2 batman

 

[Mr MASSE]

Thanks for sharing brother

 

[taco33150]

Does pd know about the test results?? Hope he chimes in..

 

[fodsod]

Does pd know about the test results?? Hope he chimes in..

I don't think for one second PD cares if one guy gets so-so results on the Greys. He doesn't make it so he can only do so much on his end.

 

[taco33150]

I don't think for one second PD cares if one guy gets so-so results on the Greys. He doesn't make it so he can only do so much on his end.

Always a crap shoot..
Thanks anyway

 

[Ed Plucker]

Ok, so I was getting ready for my annual physical with my GP and was TRT cruising for about a month on 250mg/week of Test E from my home brew source (good friend that is a chemist) and I've been running "The Grey Tops" from PD for almost 5 months at 5iu ED taken all at once at night before bed.

I was running no AI thinking I wouldn't need it at that low of a dose but obviously I was wrong and have since broke out the Letro to smack that Estro down. I'm in my 40's and my IGF-1 level prior to this run was 180. Now at 361 I'm OK with that considering the price point.

Anyway, I figured I'd share the results. I'm going to add in some MK677 at 30mg ED for a month and test again to see what happens before I take a break from the HGH. I'll post that in this thread when I get it back.

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Yeah ur IGF-1 levels are elevated beyond normal so that should tell u that u have good hGH. Your test levels are sky high on only 250mg of test. Impressive!!

 

[fodsod]

Yeah ur IGF-1 levels are elevated beyond normal so that should tell u that u have good hGH. Your test levels are sky high on only 250mg of test. Impressive!!

Good as in real, sure. Good as in under dosed, no. IMO, my 5iu ED is actually more like 3.5-4iu ED due to under dosing of the vials. I'm not really complaining just wish the manufacturers would be honest about it. They could sell it for the same cost at 8iu per vial and still be fine which is what it appears to have on average.

There is quite a but of customers that would gladly stay with a product if they provided real and accurately dosed HGH. I know I would.

 

[Ed Plucker]

Good as in real, sure. Good as in under dosed, no. IMO, my 5iu ED is actually more like 3.5-4iu ED due to under dosing of the vials. I'm not really complaining just wish the manufacturers would be honest about it. They could sell it for the same cost at 8iu per vial and still be fine which is what it appears to have on average.

There is quite a but of customers that would gladly stay with a product if they provided real and accurately dosed HGH. I know I would.

Yeah but u have no way of knowing whether its under dosed. Not everyone who shoots GH gets an IGF-1 level over 500. Most of the guys who had IGF-1 levels over 500 show an entire 10iu vial of GH before the test. That would skew the test because ur not always using 10iu a day. Even 4iu per day is plenty for hGH. But I do agree why is their such piss poor quality control in these hGH manufacturers. I remember when Angtropin came out and a lab test showed it have > 17iu of GH in it. Why would I want that? GH works better at low doses for an extended period of time.

 

[fodsod]

Yeah but u have no way of knowing whether its under dosed. Not everyone who shoots GH gets an IGF-1 level over 500. Most of the guys who had IGF-1 levels over 500 show an entire 10iu vial of GH before the test. That would skew the test because ur not always using 10iu a day. Even 4iu per day is plenty for hGH. But I do agree why is their such piss poor quality control in these hGH manufacturers. I remember when Angtropin came out and a lab test showed it have > 17iu of GH in it. Why would I want that? GH works better at low doses for an extended period of time.

You've got GH serum testing mixed up with IGF testing. The 10iu before the test is for GH serum levels. IGF isn't effected because it takes time or the liver to convert GH to IGF.

My opinion is based off the testing @Dr JIM and @mands did clearly showing the Greys were under dosed on average by 2-3ius and my long term experience with GH usage and blood work. I've never bothered to use less than 5iu ED and I've never had my IGF levels come back that low while at 5iu ED. So my opinion is they are simply under dosed but decent quality.

I will say this, I disagree about GH working better at lower dosages. When I ran 9-18 daily of GH the changes in my look and progress changed rapidly and rather dramatically. I do agree about length of time though. 4-6 months is a minimum IMO.

 

[Robert O'Hanlon]

Your igf level are low. 5iu/day should put levels in the 450-500. Don't know if you got a bad patch, you don't respond well to hgh, or the greys are going downhill.

Yeah hgh I use puts me at 480 from 5iu per day

 

[Roco Bama]

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You've got GH serum testing mixed up with IGF testing. The 10iu before the test is for GH serum levels. IGF isn't effected because it takes time or the liver to convert GH to IGF.

My opinion is based off the testing @Dr JIM and @mands did clearly showing the Greys were under dosed on average by 2-3ius and my long term experience with GH usage and blood work. I've never bothered to use less than 5iu ED and I've never had my IGF levels come back that low while at 5iu ED. So my opinion is they are simply under dosed but decent quality.

I will say this, I disagree about GH working better at lower dosages. When I ran 9-18 daily of GH the changes in my look and progress changed rapidly and rather dramatically. I do agree about length of time though. 4-6 months is a minimum IMO.

Looks like you used to compete. Since you've done heavy cycles of hgh previously, why are you messing with hgh now. You wanna have thick waist, weird body proportion ? If I were you, I would cycle on and off mast, anavar, eq along with trt. Btw your baseline igf is perfect at 180 for a 40 year old.

 

[benchyourmom]

How is that a cruise at 2000 test?