HGH facial growth

[swiftque]

This kid has had a lifetime of people patting his baby bottom and telling him everything is fine and nothing will ever have consequences.

He doesn't need more butt patting and hand holding.

This was easily preventable. He didn't do so because too many people coddled him and his approach to everything.

You whinging on and wringing your hands is more of the same stuff that got him here.

"Toxic". Wipe your crocodile tears off, clown.

You don’t know who the fk I am or who the fk this kid is.

I went to combat for the first time when I was the same age as this kid for the first time. I “knew” what I signed up for. We all did. So did we all deserve the negative things that happened to us.

I did this multiple times as an ignorant young man. And if a fool like you were my mentors or therapists, I’d be a lost cause.

Today, find myself in my feelings from those past direct actions and the actions where I was directly responsible for other young people. But hey, I knew what I was getting myself into right?

He’s 20 years old. Be a man. Mentor and guide this young man who you have no idea about. You have zero knowledge about his upbringing which you act like you do.

You know nothing.

I don’t know you, you don’t know me, and you certainly don’t know this young man. Stop drawing your bullshit conclusions from whatever insecurities dwell within your mind.

That’s actual clown behavior. There is nothing in your post that is a fact but it was preventable. Everything else is your bullshit conclusions.

 

[Rubicon500]

Your friend noticed a 1 cm in height growth? Thats 1/4 of an inch, thats the thickness of growing your hair for 2 months extra. Thats buying a new pair of hokas vs brooks, or adidas vs nikes, you sure it was from the measly 3 iu of hgh, which basically puts you in range on the referance chart, not even the high range.

3IU gets me into the high 400’s not everyone is the same when it comes to IGF1 off X amount HGH.

 

[grey]

I don’t know you, you don’t know me, and you certainly don’t know this young man. Stop drawing your bullshit conclusions from whatever insecurities dwell within your mind.

I know your attitude is exactly what landed people like him in this situation.

You are just heaping more on.

Take the tiddy out of his mouth and up your AI dosing.

 

[Ateam2023]

before

Dude then what happened then. Are you saying this is all temp? do you want to see my before and after pics dude.

and after pics would be beneficial its hard telling , but maybe just some moonface bloat like i said and ALL other members have stated " pictures please"

 

[Ateam2023]

nm i see the pics

 

[funkygiraffe]

Looks to me like you ascended lmfao. Go get a rhinoplasty and cut weight. Enjoy your new face.

 

[malfeasance]

You do understand WHAT GH is in the body... right???

Just about all other hormones are triggered by GH, it is one of the peak triggers in the bodies hormonal process... I don't think you quite understand just how powerful it actually is!

And then peptides.... You literally messing with specific triggers in that process! Again, that can be incredibly powerful in both positive and negative ways!

Why TF are people scared of Test and AAS.... Got well over 60yrs REAL WORLD high dose use and its very understood and hard to fuck up real bad on the stuff... But for some batshit crazy reason, there seems to be a younger generation who think avoiding AAS is good and instead, directly fuck with switches in the body (Peptide use) that has very little real world long term use and people don't really understand the long term costs (yet).


You understand the medical literature looks at the MEAN of data sets right.... There are outlier's in EVERYTHING! So for bone plate closure, there might be cases where it happens at 10yrs old..... Just like there might be cases where bone plates are still open at 25yrs old....

It shouldn't have happened.... yet it HAS!

Instead of taking responsibility for your actions, you're in here trying to blame the brand of HGH that you used as being "overdosed".... Yet everyone else who used that exact same batch of HGH hasn't reported ANY issues at all with it!

Even IF it was overdosed.... You think it would cause THIS in anyone else? Where are the cases??

I'm currently on 14iu/d.... I'm not getting sides like this. Been on 7 days a week since Nov 23.

My best mate just started, EXACT same batch of HGH as me, 4wks in, steps up to 4iu/d and gets crippling carpal tunnel!

The problem is YOU! There is something in YOU that reacts DIFFERENTLY to extra HGH!

From what I know, the only thing that fits is your bone plates were still in their growth stage. I'm not an expert though, you need to see a specialist!


Did research... Doses SHOULD NOT have caused this..... OK, expert.

I took doses from experienced people off this forum.... So you read what other people were doing and it worked for them and thought, Fuck it, just send it!.... What ever could go wrong!

Talked to people before I ran anything, all said everything you were doing was fine (because they were basing it on THEIR PERSONAL EXPERIANCE) and told you that it won't result in any side effects or extreme sides at all (because they were basing it on THEIR PERSONAL EXPERIANCE)... So, SEND IT!

So, after all that in depth process you carried out, here you are....



FFS, Acromegaly is THE most widely known risk of using HGH! You just thought it was a risk that wouldn't affect YOU!

I'm literally getting a retainer made to wear at night so as to limit teeth movement from the HGH.... I take it as a GIVEN that there will be sides from taking HGH, I expect my hands, feet, nose, ears, chin to grow!

Its GROWTH hormone FFS, says it right in its name! They didn't try to hide what it does!



and they accept the RISKS of doing so!

I juiced HARD during my 20's, smashed DNP, T3, OD'd once after licking my finger after a Clen brew and ended up in the backyard at 11pm throwing up blood and had a mild heart attack, took to much diuretic the night before a show and ended up in a hotel bathtub in ABSOLUTE AGONY as every single muscle and what felt like internal organ cramped for HOURS! Fuck me, I wanted to end my own life that night, just to stop the god damn PAIN! I still have cramping problems to this day whenever I sweat to much, deep agonizing cramps in a muscle will hit that will drop me to the ground and I can't move until I can get some magnesium powder into me... I carry it with me EVERYWHERE!... My whole 20's, I KNEW beyond doubt that I wasn't going to live passed 35yrs, I'd dreamt it so many times and I was 100% down with that in chasing after my dream!

I knew the risks of what I had signed up for and if that's what came due, I was willing to pay the price! I took what precautions I could, I researched a LOT, every single day I'd put in hours of research to understand how to minimize risks (We were in the era of Guinee pigging shit then self reporting in the forums, a LOT of trial and error, we didn't have the same access to science as there is today - which is fantastic to see happen!)

Look at that influencer that was ripped AF, died last year! Paid the fuckin PRICE!

Lots of others have paid the price over the years as well..... There is ALWAYS risk with this! ALWAYS! The best you can ever do is try to minimize and control those risks but they ALWAYS remain in the background!

So did you make it past 35 years old yet?

Did you make it to your dream that you were chasing?

 

[Sector]

I can't hate on OP. I ran my first cycle at 18, so to hate on OP would be hypocritical of the highest degree, but I also knew what I was signing up for, And my goals with bodybuilding/powerlifting were different. I did heavy research before ever jumping on the train. I do feel like OP kind of hopped into it without thorough research on what he was taking and the potential side effects he could experience.

I don't particularly regret my decision, aside from having to TRT early in life due to the crashed endocrine system. I was die hard into bodybuilding and powerlifting in college and loved having sex with a lot of hot girls, and that's exactly what happened. I'm still very passionate about bodybuilding, but I don't really care to step on stage now, and the powerlifting days are gone after a few injuries, but I very much enjoy having that "freaky" enhanced look still.

I also did run GH for a few months around the age of 21, without any of the adverse side effects that OP is describing, so it seems he had some very unlikely adverse reaction to it. Even my pro BB friends around the same age were running GH without any facial deformities or the adverse effects being described here, so this seems like a bit of an anomaly with the negative sides you experienced due to the GH, or perhaps there's other reasons that caused the changed you're seeing OP. It's really hard to pinpoint the exact reason based on the information given

Obviously my advice to the younger crowd would be to wait longer before hoping on cycle, but if you absolutely are going to cycle, do heavy research before ever starting, including on the potential negatives and the likelihood of having to trt early. The decision could have implications that affect the rest of your life, especially if you hop on early. So yes, "wait longer" Is the advice, but some people are still going to do it anyways

 

[BrokenOne]

So did you make it past 35 years old yet?

Did you make it to your dream that you were chasing?

Somehow deep into my 40's

No, Injured and several surgeries. Had to come to terms with it, which took nearly 10yrs mentally to get over not being able to chase my dream. I'll never compete again in any meaningful way, if I ever do, it will just be at low level. Highly doubt that will happen though as I've lost huge ranges of motion in several areas and posing just looks like absolute shit!

The problem is though, the will to do it is always lurking! Getting back into that groove is just like slipping on a old well worn glove... Just fits so right! Then the mental call starts to really start pushing hard again to see just what's what.

Muscle memory is a real thing as well

 

[AlexDavis43]

Muscle memory is a real thing as well

The Colorado Experiment. It's real. Dude lost a massive amount of muscle in a bad situation but then got back hard with gear training and diet. Casey Viator. Who knows maybe a hoax but pretty cool story.

 

[malfeasance]

The Colorado Experiment. It's real. Dude lost a massive amount of muscle in a bad situation but then got back hard with gear training and diet. Casey Viator. Who knows maybe a hoax but pretty cool story.

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Hyped scam marketing that probably made Jones a lot of money.

 

[grey]

Who knows maybe a hoax but pretty cool story.

Hyped scam marketing that probably made Jones a lot of money.

Jones was fantastic at making money for sure.

 

[swiftque]

up your AI dosing.

You're actually spot on. I seriously don't take an AI. Explains everything right?

 

[M. Tugboat]

So... you werent 21 when you ran all this.

I looked like a damn model at 19 with no AAS. Started TRT, then started blasting. Within a year my face changed significantly. This is with no hgh.

Can say your growth plates closed at 16 all you want, doesnt change the fact that you were not done with puberty and at age 20 you will be more susceptible to changes like this.

I will be shocked if you find a doctor that will take this seriously. They will immediately write it off as puberty and/or *well no shit you took illegal growth hormone products, who knows what was in there*.

Let it go. Give it time, it will either reverse to some extent or you will start to accept it. Your 20, this feels like the end of the world to you but I promise its just one of the many dumb decisions you will make and its simply called life experience. This may very well be your ticket to confidence outside of your appearance.

Why did your face change significantly?

 

[Gigantic]

OP, don't take this the wrong way... and in fact, you can feel free to DM me to keep it private, but can you answer these questions for me?

1) Do you have a small penis and testicles?
2) Do you have trouble smelling?
3) Did you grow in height at all on HGH?
4) Do you have gyno (bitch tits)?
5) Can you DM me your unredacted face before and after pics? I will delete them after looking at them. NO worries if you can't.

You should be finished growing by 20. If you aren't, you very likely had a delayed puberty.

If that's the case, you can likely fix your small penis and testicles with TRT + HCG, but you should ABSOLUTELY see a doctor / endocrinologist.

 

[Gigantic]

addiction? I did do research and the doses I took should not have caused this. I literally took doses from experienced people off this forum and talked to people before i ran anything about what to take. All said everything I was doing is fine and wouldn’t result in any side effects or extreme sides at all.

No offense, but taking HGH and:

- some alpha gpc
- some ghrp6 (a Growth hormone releasing peptide)
- CJC w dac (a Growth hormone releasing peptide)
- some MSM

...is fucking stupid for anyone, including body builders.

When you take exogenous growth (or exogenous hormones), you suppress your natural hormone production.

When you add CJC and GHRP-6, which BOTH restores and increases your natural growth hormone through different methods, you are likely getting way more growth hormone running through you than if you just stuck to HGH.

Most people here suggest doing HGH by itself, and not bothering with the peptides.

You may have even taken too much growth and/or peptides by improperly calculating the values. How did you calculate it? How much ml of bacteriostatic water did you add to each vial? What is the advertised peptide and HGH mg/iu PER bottle? How much did you inject on the slin pins (insulin syringes)?

You also fucked up by not getting IGF-1 testing. Let's say CJC and GHRP6 gave you 600 ng/ml together. Well, with 4 iu of HGH, you may get another 600 or so. So you're at 1200+ ng/ml, which means acromegaly EASILY. 3iu gives me 439 ng/ml.

In fact, the average patient with Acromegaly has IGF-1 levels of 904 ng/mL!

Another factor is a possible pituitary adenoma, which will produce SHITLOADS of IGF-1 regardless of exogenous administration, which would significantly increase your circulating levels.

I hope you stay on the forums and listen to us. This is a harm reduction board, and many of us try to be 100% straight with you to avoid harming yourself.

Your first order of business:

1. Get off growth and all peptides for 72 hours, then get an IGF-1 test.

2. If your IGF-1 levels are greater than 400 after 72 hours, go back to your doctor and tell them you think you may need a Cat Scan / MRI to check for a pituitary adenoma.

3. Don't take shit without heavy research.

4. Don't be afraid to ask questions... better safe than sorry.

 

[Ghoul]

Don't sweat your looks too much man.

In this world, women must have youth and good looks.

You can be unattractive, losing your hair, as long as you're reasonably fit, got visible money and success, and at least a little game you can get hot young chicks for the next 40 years.

Good looking losers don't really get very far with good looking women in the long term, they're programmed to seek out providers.

 

[grey]

You can be unattractive, losing your hair, as long as you're reasonably fit, got visible money and success, and at least a little game you can get hot young chicks for the next 40 years.

^This is quite true.

 

[AlexDavis43]

^This is quite true.

Yeah but that next part:

you can get hot young chicks for the next 40 years.

40 years of that sounds like a curse.

 

[Ghoul]

Yeah but that next part:



40 years of that sounds like a curse.

"I keep getting older but the girls always stay the same age".