[Bloodwork] 24K Test E and Deca

[guisep]

Background:
51 (Just getting started in life)
20+ years lifting (mostly power)
Pre weight 173.9
5’ 6”
On TRT for last 3.5 years (120mg test cyp per week)

Currently:
500mg 24K's Test E in two 250mg shots per week (batch 7090843659)
300mg 24K's Deca in two 150mg shots per week (batch 4035834784)
250iu hcg every other day
adex .5mg EOD (Pharm) again 24K's
6 weeks into a possible 20 week cycle
Blood done 36 hours after last shot
Weight currently 166 (Major diet, looking better than I did at 18. Vascularity is insane, maybe the Deca?)

Labs (attached but):
testosterone, TOTAL, LC/MS/MS 7848 (like that number)
ESTRADIOL 53 (controlled)
I fasted for these labs.

As usual concerns:
Liver

Suggestions? Comments? Did I forget something?
Thanks again to everyone on here I have have learned so much just reading.

 

[crossfitisgay]

Those numbers look more like what 800mg a week test would be

 

[guisep]

My last cycle was 500 of Test E alone and my Test number was 6252. But I agree looking a bit high.

 

[weighted chinup]

Those numbers look more like what 800mg a week test would be

It's on a split dosing protocol too.

Shit's really high.

 

[weighted chinup]

E2 looks pretty good though considering how high test is.

 

[crossfitisgay]

I would wonder if the deca is test

 

[Nitrust]

Wow that number is extremely high for 500mg test,.something isn't right, maybe the deca is test..hmmm

 

[ECB]

Wow that number is extremely high for 500mg test,.something isn't right, maybe the deca is test..hmmm

My last cycle was 500 of Test E alone and my Test number was 6252. But I agree looking a bit high.

I think it is important to note the trend in his individual response here. If his last cycle was 500mg alone, and he hit 6252, he is well above average. Also running 875iu of HCG a week will raise total T(as well as e2) a fair amount. Would seem really high to me, if it wasn't prefaced it with previous cycle results.


OP- What Total Test do you normally pull, when testing on your TRT regime? How many hours post pin did you test here(also how soon after last hcg shot). Lastly how many hours after your last test and HCG pin while on TRT.

 

[guisep]

ECB, good points.. On my pre-labs I pulled a 1323 on my 120mg Test C (2x60 a week) I thought that was a little high but my doc was not concerned and kept me at the 120.

This test was pulled Friday Morning and I shot Wednesday night so about 36 hours.
Now as for hcg, just had to check and it was shot the night before. Never thought of holding that one off until after a blood work.

I do believe there is Deca in there as I'm getting some of the benefits (might be placebo)

Given my age and how I hate going light the joints have been abused.

 

[ECB]

ECB, good points.. On my pre-labs I pulled a 1323 on my 120mg Test C (2x60 a week) I thought that was a little high but my doc was not concerned and kept me at the 120.

This test was pulled Friday Morning and I shot Wednesday night so about 36 hours.
Now as for hcg, just had to check and it was shot the night before. Never thought of holding that one off until after a blood work.

I do believe there is Deca in there as I'm getting some of the benefits (might be placebo)

Given my age and how I hate going light the joints have been abused.

This seems about right given your individual response + the HCG use.

You're not using HCG on TRT?

 

[Harmswhey]

Liver!

 

[guisep]

Yes liver is getting hit but I'm doing everything I can while to help... Have suggestions?

As for if I use HCG while on TRT..yes have been for 3 years.. again open to critique.

 

[loveyourbody]

Background:
51 (Just getting started in life)
20+ years lifting (mostly power)
Pre weight 173.9
5’ 6”
On TRT for last 3.5 years (120mg test cyp per week)

Currently:
500mg 24K's Test E in two 250mg shots per week (batch 7090843659)
300mg 24K's Deca in two 150mg shots per week (batch 4035834784)
250iu hcg every other day
adex .5mg EOD (Pharm) again 24K's
6 weeks into a possible 20 week cycle
Blood done 36 hours after last shot
Weight currently 166 (Major diet, looking better than I did at 18. Vascularity is insane, maybe the Deca?)

Labs (attached but):
testosterone, TOTAL, LC/MS/MS 7848 (like that number)
ESTRADIOL 53 (controlled)
I fasted for these labs.

As usual concerns:
Liver

Suggestions? Comments? Did I forget something?
Thanks again to everyone on here I have have learned so much just reading.
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First of all thank you for taking time and money out of your pocket to do blood work. Not only does it help you but and other member on this board but it keeps sources from scamming a lot of people if they decide to send bunk gear.

As for the numbers and you back ground information it seems you respond great to test. Another thing that it could be would be that the test might be over dosed but from what you have explained from past experiences it doesn't seem to be the case.

Has the DECA helped out with any joint pain you might have been having before the cycle? DECA makes me hold a lot of water weight when I run it so I try to avoid it.

 

[guisep]

Yes my body really like Test, might be because it was low for such a long time that as soon as TRT was started by entire day turned around (lifting, thought, sleep, sex)

I would say the DECA has helped a lot as for holding water I was never really much of consumer but now I try to hit at least a gallon a day.. really helps flush the water and weight out. I've never been a cut guy and to get there at over 50 really feels good.

I'm still betting 24K Test is overdosed a little.. say 250 and not 200.. but never had any issues with it being underdosed. Guess I should test his DECA as this was my first cycle with that.

 

[wedorecover]

I have some of his test e and deca need to check the batch numbers

 

[dokdonia]

I don't know if anything changed with how 24k is brewing, he was brewing as something like 250mg/ml assuming less than 100% purity (based upon his raws being tested or bloodwork, can't remember which) and labeling it as 200mg/ml

 

[guisep]

I think you are correct.. at least for his Test E/C .. he labels it as 200..
His DECA at least says 250 but I really need to see what it is..

 

[penche]

Thanks for posting up bud. Seems like you respond very well to test. 120mg and you're in the 1300 damn. I use 200 pharm grade and after 7 days I'm in the 900's

 

[wedorecover]

I was hoping I have the same batch numbers but I don't would have been cool to compair bloods

 

[napaulm]

i would love to respond that well to test. 8.5x is good, but i could use alot less and get more bang if i was a 11-13x.