[Bloodwork] 24K Test E and Deca

[ECB]

i would love to respond that well to test. 8.5x is good, but i could use alot less and get more bang if i was a 11-13x.

It could be worse. You could respond like me. I pull 4.5-5x off pharmacy test..lol

 

[guisep]

I'm just attempting to get a handle on my numbers. I use pharm test C for my TRT 6 months of the year so I hope it's number are spot on but still the 120 gets me over 10x. Can't believe it's just me as I know that most docs keep people to 100mg a week. hmmmm, One day I'll need to cut the HCG out for a while and then test again. I'm going to wait 6 more weeks and see where my liver and bloods are to see if I can pull a 20 week blast if not I'd drop to TRT for 3 months. Any other suggestions for me on this ride?
Thanks,

 

[napaulm]

It could be worse. You could respond like me. I pull 4.5-5x off pharmacy test..lol

ah. man, i get that from underdosed shit. its interesting how there's such discrepancy in people's responses to test. ive been on trt and hair loss boards where guys under doctors care pull as low as 3x on pharm.

 

[ECB]

ah. man, i get that from underdosed shit. its interesting how there's such discrepancy in people's responses to test. ive been on trt and hair loss boards where guys under doctors care pull as low as 3x on pharm.

Exactly, that is why I find it funny how when someone comes back in even the 4.5-6 range on a UGL gear the tinfoil hat crowd comes out and it is "Definitely underdosed brah". There's so many variables that making that assumption, without any other data is rubbish.

The real usefulness with bloodwork IMO is you should be comparing YOUR bloodwork against YOUR OWN bloodwork. Comparing yours, to mine, to the next guys, is going to just lead to confusion, and frustration.

 

[Nitrust]

How does the deca feel are you getting joint lubrication?

 

[trying to get big]

It could be worse. You could respond like me. I pull 4.5-5x off pharmacy test..lol

Me too EVERY time

 

[guisep]

I would say yes the DECA is helping the joints.. I lift pretty heavy for a 160 lb 51 year old.. Since starting the DECA and losing almost 30 lbs I'm still benching in the 300. No shoulder issues and only minor elbow soreness.. I'm still thinking about Tren for a future cycle but I'd like to keep what hair I have. We'll see... but either way I will stay with a low dose DECA for my next cycle..

 

[napaulm]

now wait a sec. why would the hcg help, vis a vis a higher test number?
if you're on exogenous test you gonna be shut down. unless ur sayin hcg keeps your body making test along with what yr pinning. it will keep yr ball size but im pretty sure ur still shut down.
and yep, if people dont know what real pharn grade results give, saying somethings over or underdosed based on a one-off blood test with no prior reference ranges to compare....its unfair.

 

[guisep]

The fact is I just don't know.. I've been on hcg from the moment I started TRT? Might it keep my old production alive, I don't know if there are any cases looking at this. Either way my pharm test still puts me just over 10x which from what I've read is above normal.
I do agree with one needs to know their numbers with just pharm stuff. I'm stockpiling now so my next at least beginning cycle will be all pharm so I'll have a good idea of what numbers I get from it.

 

[Megadick3000]

Damn your AST/ALT is jacked up. I don't get why? You'r not taking orals and I always thought injectables were supposed to be easy on the liver?

 

[ECB]

now wait a sec. why would the hcg help, vis a vis a higher test number?
if you're on exogenous test you gonna be shut down. unless ur sayin hcg keeps your body making test along with what yr pinning. it will keep yr ball size but im pretty sure ur still shut down.
and yep, if people dont know what real pharn grade results give, saying somethings over or underdosed based on a one-off blood test with no prior reference ranges to compare....its unfair.

If you are secondary, you will produce test with HCG even on exogenous test. Go hang around any HRT board and you will see this via blood work, many times over.

HCG mimics LH, so you will produce natural test, while on. That is the entire point, and that is how you are maintaining testicular size, and not having them atrophy. HOWEVER if you were to test LH on cycle, while on HCG, it would come up low as it mimics/simulates LH it doesn't STIMULATE it.