Bloodwork on 1,800 mg blast

[RockyP]

I don't normally run dosages this high but I wanted to experiment to see how my body / labs would look on various compounds given that I'm quite lean and in shape. I have a prior thread about my test / mast / tren / var cycle where my parameters were all normal aside from low HDL. In the spirit of this being a harm reduction forum, I wanted to share that these activities of ours can be done "relatively" safely. Risk is omnipresent, we attempt to mitigate it as best as we can.

Blast was:

560 mg weekly of T400 (TE / TC blend)
560 mg weekly of Mast P
350 mg weekly of NPP
150 mg weekly of anadrol PWO
200 mg weekly of TNE PWO

Other compounds:
5 iu GH
6 mg Reta
Inj L-Carn 600 - 750 mg PWO

Support meds / supps unchanged from prior test / mast / tren / var

Pita 4 mg
Zetia 10 mg
Vascepa 4 g
Nattokinase 10,000 FU

Plus the usual berberine, astragalus, R-ALA, K2 D3, ubiquinol CoQ10, NAC, TUDCA

Labs on Blast:
Hgb 15.6
HCT 46.5
LDL 32
HDL 21
Triglycerides 61
ApoB 50
Lp(a) 9
Cystatin C 0.8
GFR 110
Prolactin 21 (350 NPP / 400 deca is my ceiling as this is approaching upper end of reference range)
GGT 14

All other parameters normal. BP ranged from 118 - 129 / 61 - 78 on the blast, has come down a bit since dropping to 300 mg test. Train 6 days per week, 10k steps, 30 mins fasted LISS daily.

I'm in my 40's, under 6 ft, bodyweight on the blast ranged from 224 to 230 lbs. Diet was 3800 - 4300 cals, with one day every 2 weeks of 6000+ from a large sushi dinner. No other re-feeds / cheats. No carb cycling. Just static macros / calories.

 

[Slowww]

ive taken blood on peak blast, and had it all return in range and totally normal. I think for most people if they adhere to the diet you did, with steps and cardio, could also get very normal results as well. If you didn’t do the orals I really wonder how much better they could’ve been, and if masteron was to blame for your cholesterol specifically because it seems like it can really be bad for lipid panels even though people tout it as safe compared to something like Eq.

 

[newguy2]

I don't normally run dosages this high but I wanted to experiment to see how my body / labs would look on various compounds given that I'm quite lean and in shape. I have a prior thread about my test / mast / tren / var cycle where my parameters were all normal aside from low HDL. In the spirit of this being a harm reduction forum, I wanted to share that these activities of ours can be done "relatively" safely. Risk is omnipresent, we attempt to mitigate it as best as we can.

Blast was:

560 mg weekly of T400 (TE / TC blend)
560 mg weekly of Mast P
350 mg weekly of NPP
150 mg weekly of anadrol PWO
200 mg weekly of TNE PWO

Other compounds:
5 iu GH
6 mg Reta
Inj L-Carn 600 - 750 mg PWO

Support meds / supps unchanged from prior test / mast / tren / var

Pita 4 mg
Zetia 10 mg
Vascepa 4 g
Nattokinase 10,000 FU

Plus the usual berberine, astragalus, R-ALA, K2 D3, ubiquinol CoQ10, NAC, TUDCA

Labs on Blast:
Hgb 15.6
HCT 46.5
LDL 32
HDL 21
Triglycerides 61
ApoB 50
Lp(a) 9
Cystatin C 0.8
GFR 110
Prolactin 21 (350 NPP / 400 deca is my ceiling as this is approaching upper end of reference range)
GGT 14

All other parameters normal. BP ranged from 118 - 129 / 61 - 78 on the blast, has come down a bit since dropping to 300 mg test. Train 6 days per week, 10k steps, 30 mins fasted LISS daily.

I'm in my 40's, under 6 ft, bodyweight on the blast ranged from 224 to 230 lbs. Diet was 3800 - 4300 cals, with one day every 2 weeks of 6000+ from a large sushi dinner. No other re-feeds / cheats. No carb cycling. Just static macros / calories.

Dang impressive lipids. I just posted my lipids on only half gram of gear and their horrendous compared. Looks like I need some cholesterol meds.

 

[RockyP]

ive taken blood on peak blast, and had it all return in range and totally normal. I think for most people if they adhere to the diet you did, with steps and cardio, could also get very normal results as well. If you didn’t do the orals I really wonder how much better they could’ve been, and if masteron was to blame for your cholesterol specifically because it seems like it can really be bad for lipid panels even though people tout it as safe compared to something like Eq.

100% the mast and orals torched my HDL. Im going to check lipids again in a month after a clear out. DHT’s definitely hit HdL hard for most guys. This “safety” bullshit with primo and mast is very misleading. It’s whatever agrees with your body best. Deca doesn’t touch my lipids but I have to watch my prolactin. But 400 / week has always been plenty for me anyway.

 

[newguy2]

I don't normally run dosages this high but I wanted to experiment to see how my body / labs would look on various compounds given that I'm quite lean and in shape. I have a prior thread about my test / mast / tren / var cycle where my parameters were all normal aside from low HDL. In the spirit of this being a harm reduction forum, I wanted to share that these activities of ours can be done "relatively" safely. Risk is omnipresent, we attempt to mitigate it as best as we can.

Blast was:

560 mg weekly of T400 (TE / TC blend)
560 mg weekly of Mast P
350 mg weekly of NPP
150 mg weekly of anadrol PWO
200 mg weekly of TNE PWO

Other compounds:
5 iu GH
6 mg Reta
Inj L-Carn 600 - 750 mg PWO

Support meds / supps unchanged from prior test / mast / tren / var

Pita 4 mg
Zetia 10 mg
Vascepa 4 g
Nattokinase 10,000 FU

Plus the usual berberine, astragalus, R-ALA, K2 D3, ubiquinol CoQ10, NAC, TUDCA

Labs on Blast:
Hgb 15.6
HCT 46.5
LDL 32
HDL 21
Triglycerides 61
ApoB 50
Lp(a) 9
Cystatin C 0.8
GFR 110
Prolactin 21 (350 NPP / 400 deca is my ceiling as this is approaching upper end of reference range)
GGT 14

All other parameters normal. BP ranged from 118 - 129 / 61 - 78 on the blast, has come down a bit since dropping to 300 mg test. Train 6 days per week, 10k steps, 30 mins fasted LISS daily.

I'm in my 40's, under 6 ft, bodyweight on the blast ranged from 224 to 230 lbs. Diet was 3800 - 4300 cals, with one day every 2 weeks of 6000+ from a large sushi dinner. No other re-feeds / cheats. No carb cycling. Just static macros / calories.

Vascepa is one I haven't read about here much. Sounds like high quality fish oil?

I don't see it on a pct list. Did you get that prescribed by your doctor?

 

[RockyP]

Dang impressive lipids. I just posted my lipids on only half gram of gear and they’re horrendous compared. Looks like I need some cholesterol meds.

I’ve got genetically low HDL. It was high 20’s on 600 test / 450 primo and It’s barely 40 even on TRT so I choose to be very aggressive with LDL lowering. If I were to let my LdL / ApoB run high with low HdL it would be very dangerous. Even still, having low HdL isn’t great. Supposedly ldl under 50 makes HdL almost irrelevant but I’d still like it higher.

 

[RockyP]

Vascepa is one I haven't read about here much. Sounds like high quality fish oil?

I don't see it on a pct list. Did you get that prescribed by your doctor?

Yup it’s just fish oil. I forgot the other one that came out before Vascepa it’s just as good. You can also just go high quality otc. But if it’s covered under your rx plan it could end up being cheaper than otc. And yes it’s rx from my doc

 

[newguy2]

I’ve got genetically low HDL. It was high 20’s on 600 test / 450 primo and It’s barely 40 even on TRT so I choose to be very aggressive with LDL lowering. If I were to let my LdL / ApoB run high with low HdL it would be very dangerous. Even still, having low HdL isn’t great. Supposedly ldl under 50 makes HdL almost irrelevant but I’d still like it higher.

I see, do you run that same heart stack year round or does it change at all off blast?

 

[newguy2]

150 mg weekly of anadrol PWO
200 mg weekly of TNE PWO

Oh and btw that PWO stack is f*cking epic lol.

 

[RockyP]

Oh and btw that PWO stack is f*cking epic lol.

lol those were weekly totals. On leg day I combined TNE with Anadrol. Some days one or the other. The obvi none on rest days. But yes. Lots of fun with those. But need to take a break from them. You can train so long and so hard you have to pull yourself out of the gym with a crow bar and it can get challenging to recover if you overdo it

 

[newguy2]

Ha for sure. I'm still learning that as a newer lifter. Feeling like I can go much more in the gym often bites me in the ass the next day with joint issues.

 

[adrenalytic]

I forgot the other one that came out before Vascepa it’s just as good

Lovaza. Shits fire. Trigs are 30 and LDL 76 on that alone.

 

[RockyP]

Thats the one. I could see the commercial in my mind but couldn’t think of the name. Nandrolone brain hitting hard.

Lovaza. Shits fire. Trigs are 30 and LDL 76 on that alone.

 

[adrenalytic]

Thats the one. I could see the commercial in my mind but couldn’t think of the name. Nandrolone brain hitting hard.

Been getting forgetful myself as I started 150 deca a couple weeks ago. Anything to mitigate that? I was thinking some cerebralysin but idk if that's snake oil or not

 

[RockyP]

Ha for sure. I'm still learning that as a newer lifter. Feeling like I can go much more in the gym often bites me in the ass the next day with joint issues.

I overtrained so badly once that the next day I swore I had the flu or Covid. Terrible body aches. Resting heart rate was near 100 (normally in the 60’s). No fever or respiratory symptoms tho. But couldn’t get out of bed the whole day. Likely mild rhabdo. Won’t be doing that again. That was the last time I trained quads and posterior chain in the same session.

 

[BabaJagga]

great post man. looks like anadrol isnt that liver toxic

how were you feeling on such combination? any lethargy, gyno, sides?

 

[RockyP]

Been getting forgetful myself as I started 150 deca a couple weeks ago. Anything to mitigate that? I was thinking some cerebralysin but idk if that's snake oil or not

for me it’s hard to pin it on the nandrolone. I haven’t had 8 hours of uninterrupted sleep in years. I also just came off a blast and as we know all androgens in excess are neurotoxic. When I exit this health phase the first things I’ll be adding are low doses of primo and deca - so will get a better sense at that time.

 

[RockyP]

great post man. looks like anadrol isnt that liver toxic

how were you feeling on such combination? any lethargy, gyno, sides?

No sides to speak of. And I wasn’t even using glutathione at that time (I am now just to wash everything out). I do think if I used the anadrol everyday I’d have more lethargy and less of a positive experience. I tried it once and my body just couldn’t handle it daily for more than 2-3 days but I still get good performance benefits from preworkout a few days per week

 

[BabaJagga]

No sides to speak of. And I wasn’t even using glutathione at that time (I am now just to wash everything out). I do think if I used the anadrol everyday I’d have more lethargy and less of a positive experience. I tried it once and my body just couldn’t handle it daily for more than 2-3 days but I still get good performance benefits from preworkout a few days per week

i have very simillar experience. once maybe twice per week preworkout it was okay but i tapped out after 3 weeks of daily use at 50mg. appettite gone in 7 days, in next week very bad lethargy hit me. i had to drag myself to gym.

 

[adrenalytic]

i have very simillar experience. once maybe twice per week preworkout it was okay but i tapped out after 3 weeks of daily use at 50mg. appettite gone in 7 days, in next week very bad lethargy hit me. i had to drag myself to gym.

I wonder, does injectable have the same effect on motivation? I know it bypasses GI.